Atheists To Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month

I'm not going to go any further because it will get insulting and I don't want to insult, but suffice to say that you don't believe in dragons for the same reason I don't believe in a god.

 

So you see or touch CO2 that is supposed to be is causing it?

 

We can observe it; we can identify the chemical structure of a chemical substance through various means, and this of course applies to CO2. Chemical/molecular/atomic theory is well-supported because of it's "predictive power".

No supernatural fairy tales have ANY predictive power.

 

You can but I wouldn't touch dry ice.

 

^Apparently this guy can concretely prove a negative. No wonder he doesn't believe in God. He already thinks of himself as all powerful.

 

:rolls eyes:

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So there is direct incontrovertible proof CO2 is causing the latest warming? Please post a link.

 

So you're a pretty sensative about what I said huh? Question is why? Maybe, because I find that most atheists are intolerant people. They are allowed to not believe, but you are not allowed to believe. Not, saying that's you, but most seem this way to me...examples are right here on this forum.

I didn't say I had any more morals than you do bluesguy, It is just my belief that you need to have a faith (in whatever/whomever that may be) in order to live in peace with yourself to keep yourself in-check. Sometimes I feel people call themselves atheists so they can live their lives however they want and not feel bad about anything they do. Yet sometimes they do, why do you think that is? Who is that talking to them? I believe there is something, you can call it a God, if you want to...I prefer Holy Spirit I guess. I do not believe the stories in the bible ever happened, like do I believe that Noah built an ark? No, I do not....But, what I do believe is that it's a story told for the purpose of learning a lesson, learning determination, sacrifice? I don't know. I believe the bible is a book with stories each one with a message, to build character, and a moral code.

It's what I believe, if you don't....I could care less. You believe/not believe what you want and I'm fine with that, I should be offered the same respect by you, correct? It does make me wonder just where you think morals come from? Where your parents Christians?

"Every religion emphasizes human improvement, love, respect for others, sharing other people's suffering. On these lines every religion had more or less the same viewpoint and the same goal." The Dalai Lama.

 

If you are participating in the thread you might want to read what has been posted. If you have not read it why are you responding? If I post the information again who's to say you'll read it this time?

 

It's far more proof than you have of a god.

It lists the comparable symptoms. They are facts. If you refuse to understand them it is not my problem.

 

Helping the handicapped is always important. Allowing a mental disorder to influence governance is a totally different matter.

 

On what beyond that very flawed book with no proof do you base such a belief?

The bible is not the only source in teaching right from wrong.

 

I don't defend Obama's minister as a person of faith. I am saying that to take one sound bite and use that to base a judgment on the entire person is silly. He is more than that statement.
I would defend most religious leaders that work within troubled communities to make life better for the people they influence.
Even flawed people can make a difference in certain areas.

 

The grouping of homosexuals which i belong has the lowest STD rate of any group including heterosexuals. So what are you trying to point out.

It's funny how now you are trying to attack me on the gay front. Being gay is a fact of birth. Being religious is learned.

 

He can't attack my religious views so he picked up on my sexuality. But since I'm lesbian and we are the lowest group for STD's he's barking up the wrong tree.

 

But the impact of faith and the teachings does influence lawmaking. That is the only reason why same sex marriage is not legal everywhere yet, That and homophobia. When religion crosses the line to attempt to influence laws it does cross that line.
When they cross it they should be taxed fined and jailed if need be.

Government is not supposed to be in the religious arena yet those religious can't seem to find their place and stay out of politics.

 

It certainly did change humanities search for knowledge. If any research went against the bible it was said to be wrong. The findings made by Galileo and the like were refuted in favor of the moronic description contained in scripture.

 

All religions are the same when it comes to holding humanity back. All religion is bad no matter what brand name it goes by.

 

People have the right to believe whatever they like but when there strange ideas and mythological characters are used as a means to subvert law it is all wrong.

 

Comparable symptoms are not facts.

 

But where does right from wrong come from? Who gave us a moral code?

 

Are you kidding! How can you not know, and pretend your opinions carry some weight, as a consequence?
http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaBabylonian_Gods00000027.htm
By all means cite Hammurabi, but don't pretend his codification of laws and enlightened law giving did not have a basis in a highly theistic culture. How can atheists claim to be so smart and yet consistently show a real lack of knowledge?

That's what we know him for (as lawmaker) anyway. To make your claim (as if the claim itself mattered) with your unfortunate lack of knowledge about Babylonia and it's religious surroundings however casts doubt on everything you claim.

I need the backing of an anthropologist/archeologist to certify your opinions.

Ummm...I suppose.

 

What do you mean who gave us a moral code? Our moral code has been changing since our civilizations began. Just look at the Old Testament, completely immoral by our standards today.

 

only satan can influence laws? Well. We've seen where that gets us.

 

Only a real "genius" and anti religion bigot would attribute the Dark Ages to Christianity as it was the sweep of pagan cultures that rushed in to fill the void left by the collapsed Roman Empire (that had become the leader of the early church) that caused the long decline of civilization.
In fact it was only the action of Christian monasteries that kept scholarship alive at all (throughout the West, anyway).
I can't believe such ignorance being peddled as truth and everything atheists claim should be viewed in light of such ignorance. Would you like to attribute the Black Plague to Christianity, as long as you're at it?