The New World Order

Better watch what you say, SiliconMagician might have you carted off to Bedlam

 

Then he needs to shed that (R) if he wants anybody to take him seriously. He's a right wing hack, not unlike the rest of his corporate party.

 

He probably will if he won't get the nomination. Don't you realize he is just using the Republican party as a vehicle to get himself into office? He doesn't agree with the Republican platform any more than he agrees with the Democratic platform. Mark my words, he will defect to being Independent if he doesn't get the GOP nomination. And he will run against the 2 progressive clowns that the establishment puts up

 

So Silicon is part of the NWO?

Silicon, you bastard, why didn't you tell me?!

I actually agree with this. I'd be a more staunch of a Ron Paul supporter if he didn't pander to the Republican Party.

 

As long as America is still the lone superpower, the NWO can't be established.

 

I was making a joke about Silicon's thread last night about people who support Ron Paul being mentally insane. The moderators nuked it pretty fast.

 

Yep. That's why America's collapse is being engineered.

 

Ah, must have missed it.

What's funny with the whole Ron Paul-NWO thing is that I know many Masons (mostly through online forums) that support Ron Paul and yet his policies would be against the NWO.

 

Like we've established, plenty of Jews (myself) support Ron Paul but the ones in power like that Jewish lobby group in Washington that banned RP from a debate don't. It's an issue of who's in power and from what group.

 

But I thought that the NWO was a Jew conspiracy and that Ron Paul hates Jews because of that. Oh, I guess all those claims are completely wrong.

I have seen zero credible evidence of a Jewish Conspiracy driving the NWO. There are plenty of non-Jew international bankers that are pushing for it.
I have seen zero credible evidence of a Masonic Conspiracy pushing for the NWO.

 

amen to that brother.

 

dont worry.I just did it for you. did you get the rep network citizen?

 

His handlers must pay him a lot for his trolling.

 

yeah I guess he hasnt done his research,I knew that way back in 2008.

 

you nailed it.

 

Uh....where does this "world govt." get their nukes? Is anyone going to wonder why that new govt. down in Antarctica is moving Russia's nukes down there, or why they're refining uranium? Actually, wouldn't someone have wondered why there's a suddenly a "new govt." in Antarctica in the first place?

Actually, a one world govt. is a perfect idea. But not for the support of the RICH, for cryin' out loud.- but because there IS only one world. However, a one world govt. won't exist until the rich/poor divide has much lessened, I can pretty much assure you.

But I have to give out the award for most all-encompassing conspiracy theory of the millenium. Kudos.

And I'm not convinced that the ultra-rich sit around thinking about conspiratorial and amazingly convoluted ways to become richer. Yes, there are SOME literal animals amongst the human population, granted. But they aren't necessarily found among the rich any more than among the common.

 

The UN seizes control over all remaining nuclear weapons of soveriegn nations at some point. How else would a world government exist if it cannot overpower its states?

I have no idea what you're talking about. Can you provide a source or a link.

I disagree. Even if it was a world government that adopted the US Constitution almost to a Tee it would still be a bad idea. Its simply too much power concentrated in the hands a of a small amount of people.

Not so. Did you read the OP?

I think it's pretty logical. Nothing in the OP is really far out there, considering most of the stuff I listed has already happened or is in the works of happening. Sure, there is some conjecture and predictions as well. But it's not far out there if that's what you're suggesting.

Plenty of rich people do this. And the elite that I'm referring to aren't figuring out ways to get richer. They've had enough wealth to buy all the material happiness they could ever possibly dream of throughout their entire lives. They're bored with having infinite wealth. They want power.

I disagree. The reason they are found among the rich more is because the rich are the ones who were willing to use ruthless and/or unethical tactics to actually get there.

 

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I think that the NWO sunk the titanic. It's like this massive coverup. Check it out! http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

 

World governance was established after WWII. The UN, world bank, and IMF are world governance. GATT is world governance.

The terminology of New World Order just came from certain leaders' own mouths, especially Bush the Elder, as they try to suck every nation into the scheme rather than just the NATO nations. They've had a specific focus on Russia, which Putin has thrown a wrench at.

If you think a plan for a World Order is ridiculous then you must come from 1930.

 

The New World Order is globalization. Global governance has been growing, as NetworkCitizen said, since WWII. I would argue that it has been been growing since WWI.

 

Funny thing is, I can almost see how an absolute libertarian ideal would fit into this idea. Basically getting rid of the idea of nations. But, I still think that libertarians would fear such a large scale level of governance even more than national governance. There would be nowhere to run if that all-encompassing government became corrupt. And as often as that seems to happen, it's a no go.

Newt Gingrich has even found himself in some sort of anti-sovereignty dialogue and advocated a book recommending the destruction of nations in favor of world governance. Maybe he is considering the more libertarian aspect of this, but I don't think it would work out as hoped...at all.

 

True. The ultimate libertarian ideal is actually quite similar to the ultimate communist ideal, elimination of government, and the obliteration of nations, both for different reasons. The New World Order would simply be the authoritarian version.

 

Right on, diplomat. One also has to consider who would have a say if governance went to a global level. We don't exactly want authoritarians having the majority vote.

I always have to go back to the idea that governance will always represent the will of the people more accurately at smaller scales. That's why I stick to states' rights and am against feds usurping power and to a greater extent, global governance.

 

Thanks for your irrelevent strawman.