Israel Has Learned Well From The Nazis.

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  1. Man on Fire

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    Good idea. If Israel would (*)(*)(*)(*) off back into the borders of Israel and stop their violence then maybe the area would be a whole lot better.
     
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    I don't think the claim was ever made that Israel can do whatever other countries can do. However, one thing the pro-Palestinian side loves to ignore is that the reason that Israel is forced into these hard-line positions is that the Palestinians want to kill as many of them as possible. Even "cease fires" don't stop Palestinians from lobbing rockets into civilian areas, attempting to suicide bomb major commercial centers, and so on. So it's not as simple as "Pakistan is a badass too" just that given the actual situation on the ground, any sane nation on earth is going to do whatever they have to do to protect their own citizens. In most cases, giving in to UN or European demands would mean that they have no way to protect against the next suicide bomber or the next rocket attack. You can't make this low-grade war into anything else without de feacto demanding that one side allow the other side to kill them.

    The army officer will be tried. No one has any evidence that he won't. Cut the crap.
     
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    BS. There have been ceasefires and Israel has broken them. There was one just before they invaded Gaza and they broke that.You are just plain out and out lying.
     
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    LOL, having lost the argument about this specific incident the Islamofascists true to their typical strategies are all over the board throwing all the dirt they can remember at Israel and hoping something will stick.

    Israel behaved as a true civilized democracy and punished the person who used unnecessary force. You clowns accusing the entire country for the action of one [already punished] individual are the real Nazis. Your attempts to divert this discussion once your case has fallen apart are not fooling anyone. But keep trying, keep us all entertained.
     
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    The comparison is a sad one. As the jewish people went thru hell with the nazis. Yet decades later, what many can see and do comment on and ask. Why is israel treating the palestine people the same way?

    If israel is this true democracy, then why does it not act in a civilized manner?
     
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    He is not being tried. He has just been demoted. You do actually keep up on what the Israeli are doing before presenting an argument? It seems not otherwise you would know what has already happened to him. In any other country he would be in court for assault but not in Israel as they let their soldiers run riot.
     
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    Another Islamofascist lie. Here is a bunch of examples that took place in western countries. Please show us who went to court for assault. Thanks in advance:


    London cop punches protester
    http://vastminority.blogspot.com/2011/12/video-london-cop-punches-protester.html


    NYC cop punches protester
    http://www.newser.com/story/131156/n...protester.html

    Montreal police caught brutalizing students
    http://www.copblock.org/12965/montre...zing-students/

    Australian cops punch stomp on peaceful protesters.
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...-police-attack

    Danish police clubbing protesters: This video from Coppenhagen shows how the Danes themselves deal with peaceful protesters – by employing clubs and pepper spray.
    http://the-eyeontheworld.blogspot.co...rotesters.html
     
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    Evil photography shows Israeli's doing things that are out of context. Evil doers take photos and compare it to Nazi's. Nothing could be further from the truth. Israel could really take things out on the persons who live in Gaza and the West Bank and yet, they do not.

    They are careful to be very careful with them and try to make sure that these people have food, but not weapons, and medicine, but no things that are for the doing of evil. I know many Israeli's and I know that they are loving and cautious people.

    After what Jews have gone through all along and through the ages; believe me, they don't want it repeated again. Not ever and not again and that's to eternity and beyond that, too.
     
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    Is this supposed to be taken as a serious argument? Evil photography? Lolz.
     
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    If he was not caught on camera doing this, he would have no punishment. In an interview he even regrets that he was 'caught on camera' not that he hit the man. Just simply reading the Solidarity Movements website you will see many incidents like this.

    Attacks on unarmed protestors like this happen routinely in the occupied West Bank, and it is not limited to Palestinians, but also internationals as we see in this case. In fact, I even know American citizens who were shot by the occupation forces before. Violence committed by the settlers and Israeli soldiers in the West Bank go unnoticed, unless they are on video.
     
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    Like a diseased slut Zionism has been caught again and again in bed with losers - numerous oppressive regimes. If you want to find Zionism search stained sheets and seedy motels - you'll always find her, limbs intertwined with her latest "boyfriend".

    1) Fascists: Some Zionists declared themselves as fascists. Some cooperated with the Nazis.

    quote: Abba Ahimeir was a writer and activist in British Mandate Palestine, and a zealous lieutenant of Jabotinsky. In the pages of the magazine Doar Hayom, during the late 1920s and '30s, he wrote a celebrated column titled "From the Notebook of a Fascist." He hymned Mussolini, referred to Jabotinsky as "Our Duce," and even went so far as to say that Hitler was on the right track, except for his excessive anti-Semitism.

    Interesting the connection between Netanyahu, Begin, Jabotinsky, and Ahimeir. Check out the article: The iron wall

    quote: Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930’s, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized “Kibbutz” training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of “Israel”.[10]

    quote: It is an historical fact that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that: a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

    The Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

    The answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments: a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees. b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war. c) No ransom will be paid This response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

    LINK for both quotes Please recognize these are Jewish people making the charges and they have documentation.

    2) Communists: Dictator Josef Stalin ordered weapons be supplied to the Zionists. These weapons were crucial in achieving the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

    quote: As part of the deal signed in January, Czechoslovakia supplied some 50,000 rifles (that remained in use in the IDF for around 30 years), some 6,000 machine guns and around 90 million bullets. But the most important contracts were signed in late April and early May. They promised to supply 25 Messerschmitt fighter planes and arranged for the training - on Czech soil and in Czech military facilities - of Israeli pilots and technicians who would fly and maintain them. The planes, which were disassembled and flown to Israel on large transport planes, after their reassembly played a very important role in halting the Egypt Army's advance south of Ashdod, at a place now called the Ad Halom Junction.

    Zionist soldiers even wore Nazi uniforms! The symbolism couldn't be more precise.

    quote: Even the uniforms supplied to the Israelis during the training in Czechoslovakia were previously used by soldiers in the Nazi army.

    LINK for both quotes

    3) Apartheid South Africa: Israel and South Africa were locked in a tight embrace.

    quote: By 1976, the relationship had changed so profoundly that South Africa's prime minister, John Vorster, could not only make a visit to Jerusalem but accompany Israel's two most important leaders, Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres, to the city's Holocaust memorial to mourn the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis.

    Neither Israeli appears to have been disturbed by the fact that Vorster had been an open supporter of Hitler, a member of South Africa's fascist and violently antisemitic Ossewabrandwag and that he was interned during the war as a Nazi sympathiser.

    Rabin hailed Vorster as a force for freedom and at a banquet toasted "the ideals shared by Israel and South Africa: the hopes for justice and peaceful coexistence".

    A few months later, the South African government's yearbook described the two countries having one thing in common above all else: "They are both situated in a predominantly hostile world inhabited by dark peoples."

    A year earlier, Israel had offered to sell South Africa nuclear warheads.

    "South Africa's leaders yearned for a nuclear deterrent – which they believed would force the west to intervene on their behalf if Pretoria were ever seriously threatened – and the Israeli proposition put that goal within reach," Polakow-Suransky says in the book.

    The deal did not go through but there was plenty of other cooperation in the development of military technology.

    Alon Liel, a former Israeli ambassador to Pretoria who headed his foreign ministry's South Africa desk in the 80s, once told the Guardian that gold-rich South Africa funded the joint military projects and Israel provided much of the technical knowledge.

    "After 1976, there was a love affair between the security establishments of the two countries and their armies," he said. "We were involved in Angola as consultants to the [South African] army. You had Israeli officers there cooperating with the army. The link was very intimate."

    By the late 1970s, South Africa was Israel's single largest customer for weapons.

    Polakow-Suransky establishes that the relationship was so intimate that in the mid-1970s, South Africa lifted the safeguards supposed to govern how the yellowcake was used to prevent nuclear proliferation.

    In return, Israel sent South Africa 30 grams of tritium, which gives thermonuclear weapons the boost to their explosive power. The delivery was enough to build several atomic bombs, which South Africa did in the coming years.

    LINK
     
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    That is not really true at all but the Jewish terrorist group the stern gang offered to be on the Nazis side and that is a fact.
     
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    No actually...Historically, Nazism and Zionism are ideological bedfellows:

    Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organisation, set the scene for his attitude to German anti-semitism in a keynote speech in Berlin in 1912 when he said:

    Each country can only absorb a limited number of Jews, if she doesn’t want disorders in her stomach. Germany has already too many Jews.

    Hitler himself could not have put it better.

    In fact when Hitler seized power in 1933 he discovered in the Zionist Federation of Germany, the main Zionist organisation there, a kindred spirit as warped as his own. They sent Hitler the following memorandum which would shape the Zionists’ relations with the Nazis throughout this dreadful era all the way to the gas chambers and which requires no further comment:

    May we therefore be permitted to present our views, which, in our opinion, make possible a solution in keeping with the principles of the new German State of National Awakening and which at the same time might signify for Jews a new ordering of the conditions of their existence ... Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own tradition ...

    ... an answer to the Jewish question truly satisfying to the national state can be brought about only with the collaboration of the Jewish movement that aims at a social, cultural, and moral renewal of Jewry ... a rebirth of national life, such as is occurring in German life through adhesion to Christian and national values, must also take place in the Jewish national group. For the Jew, too, origin, religion, community of fate and group consciousness must be of decisive significance in the shaping of his life ...

    On the foundation of the new state, which has established the principle of race, we wish so to fit our community into the total structure so that for us too, in the sphere assigned to us, fruitful activity for the Fatherland is possible ... Our acknowledgement of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities. Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group ...

    For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration even of a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with the Jewish question no sentimentalities are involved but a real problem whose solution interests all peoples, and at the present moment especially the German people.

    The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ... [6]

    The last paragraph refers to the anti-Nazi boycott of German goods, which was organised principally in the United States, and which the Zionists opposed.

    Of course, the Zionists’ terrible attitude to the Nazis must never be allowed to hide or disfigure the tremendous courage shown by Jewish resistance fighters against the Nazis. They had to contend, not only with the Nazis, but also with what amounted to a Zionist “fifth column” in their own ranks, whispering “do not fight, you cannot fight, the German Nazis are right, you are not welcome in Europe. You do not belong here.”

    In 1943, in the Warsaw Ghetto in Poland, Jewish fighters rose up against the Nazis. They fought for six months, hiding in bombed-out buildings and the maze of sewer tunnels beneath the city. German commanders recorded: “Over and over we observed that Jews, despite the dangers of being burned alive, preferred to return to the flames rather than be caught by us.” [7] They also noticed that the women in particular, when surrounded, came out with their guns blazing rather than surrender. Against impossible odds, Warsaw Jews fought to the end.

    Uri Avinery, a former member of the Stern Gang, one of several armed Zionist organisations in Palestine during the war, and which numbered among its members Itzhak Shamir, who was to become Israel’s deputy prime minister, has commented:

    Throughout the war, nothing much was done by the Zionist leadership to help the Jews ... Many think things could have been done: hundreds of Haganah and Irgun fighters [other armed Zionist organisations] could have been parachuted into Europe ... [8]

    But this was not the way the Zionists saw it. In the same year as the Warsaw uprising, Itzhak Greenbaum, head of the Zionist Jewish Rescue Committee, declared:

    If I am asked could you give from the [United Jewish Appeal] money to rescue Jews? I say, “No, and again no.” In my opinion, we have to resist that wave which puts Zionist activities in the second line. [9]

    http://www.marxists.de/middleast/rose/5-holocaust.htm#n5
     
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    They are worse than Nazi's.

    I would fancy that if you added up all the many innocents that have died at the behest of Zionazism, at least for sixty years, it would add up to the ten billion Jews, or whatever it is now, that died in the only holocaust that ever happened in the world.

    Except that it isn't the only holocaust, or even the largest.

    Go find out how many the Bolsheviks were responsible for slaughtering. Their victims were mainly white Russian Christians. It could be in the region of 20 million.

    Secondly, at least, say what you will about Germany of that day, but they were prepared to fight countries that could fight back, and there is some sense of honour in doing so, imo.

    The modern Zion Nazi is a coward. The IDF for example are little more than a 'Gucci army'. They look good when firing at opponents like kids and women, but not so hot if it is anyone more capable, as evidenced by the hosing that Hezbollah gave them, not so long back.

    Zionists know they are really cowards, and that for the real dirty work, they need a little more than a Gucci army.

    Moreover, there is one thing a Zionist does not like - a large defence budget....for Israel.

    Zionists have solved both those issues.

    Rather than use their own cowardly IDF, they use the US by proxy. This has the added benefit of sacrificing the lives of gentiles, for the interests and wars of extremist Jewish nationalists.

    It also saves on that defence spend I spoke of.

    Why spend your own sheckle when you can get billions from the non Jewish American tax payer?

    Why fuss about your own arms, when the Zionists ensure that this flow of arms and money keeps going to Israel.

    Face it America, and I say this as someone who has every respect for so many things to have come out of your country...you have all been made fools of by these people.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGsGq4u-E8g&fb_source=message
     
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    They are worse than Nazi's.

    I would fancy that if you added up all the many innocents that have died at the behest of Zionazism, at least for sixty years, it would add up to the ten billion Jews, or whatever it is now, that died in the only holocaust that ever happened in the world.

    Except that it isn't the only holocaust, or even the largest.

    Go find out how many the Bolsheviks were responsible for slaughtering. Their victims were mainly white Russian Christians. It could be in the region of 20 million.

    Secondly, at least, say what you will about Germany of that day, but they were prepared to fight countries that could fight back, and there is some sense of honour in doing so, imo.

    The modern Zion Nazi is a coward. The IDF for example are little more than a 'Gucci army'. They look good when firing at opponents like kids and women, but not so hot if it is anyone more capable, as evidenced by the hosing that Hezbollah gave them, not so long back.

    Zionists know they are really cowards, and that for the real dirty work, they need a little more than a Gucci army.

    Moreover, there is one thing a Zionist does not like - a large defence budget....for Israel.

    Zionists have solved both those issues.
    [video=youtube;VGsGq4u-E8g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGsGq4u-E8g&fb_source=message[/video]
    Rather than use their own cowardly IDF, they use the US by proxy. This has the added benefit of sacrificing the lives of gentiles, for the interests and wars of extremist Jewish nationalists.

    It also saves on that defence spend I spoke of.

    Why spend your own sheckle when you can get billions from the non Jewish American tax payer?

    Why fuss about your own arms, when the Zionists ensure that this flow of arms and money keeps going to Israel.

    Face it America, and I say this as someone who has every respect for so many things to have come out of your country...you have all been made fools of by these people.

    [video=youtube;VGsGq4u-E8g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGsGq4u-E8g&fb_source=message[/video]
     
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    Godwin's Law, anyone?
     
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    Lol smashing an uncooperative (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is not learned from the Nazi's, if they had acted like Nazi's or the pedophile worshiping Islamic Imperialist swine who idolize Hitler then they would have shot him and personally I wouldn't have lost one wink of sleep over the death of an Islamonazi (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) ISM member.
     
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    If Zionism is a diseased slut, then I am a diseased slut!!!!!
     
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    Not when the comparison is valid, and Zionist Jews were happy to do business with Nazi's.
     
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    Why not get well?

    Or is the disease so rampant in mind and soul, that it is too late, it is eating you up?
     
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    More Scuccotash and Scottish B.S.
     
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    As I love Israel, so do I love my diseased slut body!!!! LOL
     
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    There is not a single fact stated in those videos only a child raping pedophile worshiping genocidal Islamonazi would post such vile Islamic Imperialist filth, it's laughable.
     
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    Yeah, those ugly IDF cowards do that too.

    They also like to murder true American heroes, by breaking their backs by driving a bulldozer over them.

    But off you trot, and invent a good reason to murder Americans as well now...



    [video=youtube;cUoZGnvZwNY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUoZGnvZwNY[/video]
     

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