Gun Purchase Without Background Check | What's Your Stance?

what sux is the domestic violence misdemeanor disability. it's not just punching your wife, it's so much as yelling at anyone you've ever shared an address with (disturbing the peace).

don't go out drinking with your collage roomie from 40 years ago if there's so much as a drop of bad blood between you.

 

It's really not that hard.

 

what's not that hard? not getting a disorderly conduct ticket during the holidays? you've never met my sister and i hope for your sake, you never do.

 

Is this even Constitutionally valid in the case of a simple buyer seller tranfer within State lines? It seems to me to be illegal for the federal government to interfere in a private transaction between two private citizens on grounds its intrastate commerce.

Perhaps if one of the two parties crossed state lines with a weapon before the transaction, I fail to see legal grounds for it Constitutionally rgarding intrastate commerce is a State Right.

 

Well, um... hm.

I didn't mention anything federal in the OP, nor am I challenging Constitutionality. I'm just asking if you would support a checkless system, or if you're cool with your state making background checks mandatory (if they haven't already).

 

I have purchased several firearms through gunshows. I couldn't grease the seller's hand enough to convince himto sell me one unchecked. I tried to see if it could be done and was unsuccessful. Then I tried to by a swedish K, same results. No FFL, no sell.
FBI accosted me as I left his booth and got the usual 400 questions about the attempted purchases. After the smoke cleared, I purchased a handgun from the seller anyway and had to wait 7 days before it was shipped to me via mail.
I couldn't find a so-called loophole for making a firearm purchase plus the FBI and ATF are always all over these shows. This event occurred BEFORE the CT shootings. Gun control worked then.BTW, purchase was clean.

 

Ayuh,.... That's because the "Gun show loophole" is another smoke screen thrown up by the gun grabbers....

Their true target is to stop yer father, 'n grandfather from passin' on their guns to You...

Just another roadblock thrown into the lives of law abidin' citizens...

Yet another hoop to jump through...

 

couldn't agree more. psssssssst, you are a Ctizen, not a citizen.....there is a difference

 

I think it's important that guns aren't given to just any person, but only decent and good people. But then, there are other ways for the scum to get guns so it wouldn't really help with that, atleast only marginally. A little bit better is better than no change I suppose.

 

If owning a gun is a "privilege" like driving a car, we should have gun checks

if it's a "right" every American should have, there should be no checks as it would not be necessary


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every american shouldn't have that right, only the good americans should. If a background check will filter out those not qualified it should be implemented.

 

can we do that with speech too, just start taking away constitutions rights willy nilly

it's not a constitutional right if that is the case... sounds like your saying toss the 2nd Amendment and make gun ownership like car ownership

 

correct
subject=privilege
Citizen = Rights

Filter in place, proceed

 

Did you really just compare gun ownership to free speech? Do I really have to explain the difference between 1 or 2 spoken sentences, and a gun? People with a felony shouldn't have access to firearms.

 

What state(s)?

 

While I would agree that anybody who has committed a crime with a gun should have their right revoked. Even taking it further preventing people with violent crimes shows a lack of restraint and should be restricted as well. Someone getting busted with a little pot(it is a felony in many states) or other non-violent offenses, should be given some way of having their rights returned.

 

While some states have required all gun show purchases to have background checks. I am not sure if they have also required private citizens to do checks outside of gun shows. All actual firearms dealers must do a background check even at gun shows. Only private citizens can sell firearms without a background check.

 

I'm perfectly okay with that, as the system should incorporate a method of determining why a charge came about, and using discretion.

Right... and that's the so-called "gun show loophole" that we're referring to, while keeping in mind that it's a horrible name for the loophole because it sounds as if it's limited to gun shows, when in reality it's age-old commerce afforded to private citizens. It's essentially why I'm asking what I'm asking in the OP.

 

I agree but it is doubtful that will ever happen. NRA not going to fight for that, which is actually one of biggest issues with them.



If they could develop a system that would not require the assistance of a licensed dealer, as well as insuring it would not cause added cost or problems when passing along a weapon to ones children upon death. Those are my main concerns for closing the loophole. I would prefer a endorsement system on state issued IDs.

 

You mean, like a "this person is good to go for purchase" type of thing?

 

Yes,it has been done for alcohol in many states. Would be simple to look at someones ID and see if they were eligible, it would also allow for police to know if a person was allowed to own a weapon when found in possession of one.

 

I'd support that if there were a good way to ensure they're updated in the event of a serious infraction.

 

The courts would have to have someone surrender their license at conviction,(or possible at arraignment in serious cases) much like with drunk drivers now. I would support it but some would possible be against possible invasion of privacy since anyone could tell you were not eligible.

 

most states already do that. If a cop finds a gun, regardless, they run a check, otherwise, a license to carry a hand gun to the range requires a different license than to carry concealed. At least here in Indiana.

 

In Texas or Arkansas we need no license except to carry concealed weapons or hunting. We also have no registration requirements. Most of the times a police officer will simply ask if you have ever been arrested then ask if you have weapons. Only once have they run a check on me, the other times they say have a nice day.