10 Years Ago We Went To War For Oil

Abizaid is real stupid.. We didn't secure any oilfields.. We couldn't even secure the road from the airport to Baghdad... and consider over 600 acts of sabotage..

Consider further.. that Iraqi oil production was at an all time historical low for over ten years.

Who are these yahoos?

 

No one said GBW and his cronies did a good job of planning. Yes it was at an all time low. But plenty was in the ground and now, today, getting near their all time highs. And BIG WESTERN OIL COs are reaping the profits.

Coincidence?

 

No, Your claims arent even reality.

The federal government makes more money in taxes on gas, than the oil companies do in profit.

Thats the facts....

 

I don't think it was all about oil.

That's just lib fantasy.

But assuming you think it is that is mostly the fault of lib environmentalists who prevent America from using our own energy resources.

 

whats that got to do with how well the oil companies are doing in Iraq??

 

because it is always quoted as "supply and demand" that drives the prices. If the supply is up, then prices should come down, right?

 

lol! demand is going up faster than supply

 

I was replying to another user, who claimed such

 

What are my claims? There in the article. Read it or get someone who can read to read it to you.
I am making no claims.

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Trying to throw off the topic. The usual BS from GWB shrills.

 

Drill baby drill in America beats blood for oil in Iraq, don't you agree?

 

Don't know. What would that do for us? As I've read, we have to much oil to gas and now export some gas. So what will it buy us?

 

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c51d29fc-85c4-11e2-9ee3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2O0MEEQpT
March 17, 2013
When Iraq held its first postwar oil licensing round in June 2009, groups like ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell and BP flocked to Baghdad for what was one of the most eagerly anticipated events in the oil industry calendar.
At the fourth round last May,(2012) none of them bid.
The poor attendance epitomizes a general disenchantment with Iraq’s oil sector. The country was once the hottest ticket in global energy. But the widely predicted bonanza for western oil companies in postwar Iraq has failed to materialize.
Political instability, poor contractual terms and infrastructure bottlenecks have sharply reduced the country’s appeal to Big Oil. Many companies have shifted their attention from the south to the semi-autonomous Kurdistan region, angering Baghdad. “Iraq is the toughest environment we operate in,” says the chief executive of a big western oil company. “And it will be tough for many years to come.”
It is an ironic outcome. When US troops invaded Iraq 10 years ago, conspiracy theorists predicted that American oil companies would immediately seize control of the country’s vast oilfields. “People say that the Iraq war was fought over oil,” says Robin Mills of Dubai-based Manaar Energy Consulting. “But American companies are now almost absent from the Iraqi upstream scene.”

 

when America attacked Iraq, they truly believed Iraq would become a pet lapdog and make it easy for access to the oil. the fact that it didn't turn out that way doesn't mean the original intent wasn't to get at the oil

 

LOLOL.. Have you ever seen an oil concession agreement?

The majors came in quite late.. as in a year ago..

Repeat after me.... The oil business HATES a war zone.

Now .. granted the ziocons said we would use Iraqi oil to PAY for the war... What a pack of fools.. Everyone in the oil business knew that was idiocy.

 

and yet they didn't have the guts to say so

 

Yes, the oil companies did some miscalculation on the issues of disrtuption and Chiense competition.

But I am gong to suggest the main reason the "American" oil companies are not in Iraq is because all the "American" oil companies have opened up entirely foreign branches of themselves, and don't even pretend to be "American companies" any more, like Halliburton and so many others. They are based in the new ME oil countries designed specifically by and for the cartel entities, and are smply abandoning a pretense of their international operations having anything to do with the USA.

The "American" oil companies we see are no just little subsidiaries for work in the USA. These companies have ALWAYS funneled their operations money out of the USA to not pay any taxs, now the companies themselves are gone.

However, they still control Congress, decide our wars and foreign policy, and so much more.

 

Baghdad, Iraq - While the US military has formally ended its occupation of Iraq, some of the largest western oil companies, ExxonMobil, BP and Shell, remain.

On November 27, 38 months after Royal Dutch Shell announced its pursuit of a massive gas deal in southern Iraq, the oil giant had its contract signed for a $17bn flared gas deal.

Three days later, the US-based energy firm Emerson submitted a bid for a contract to operate at Iraq's giant Zubair oil field, which reportedly holds some eight million barrels of oil.

Earlier this year, Emerson was awarded a contract to provide crude oil metering systems and other technology for a new oil terminal in Basra, currently under construction in the Persian Gulf, and the company is installing control systems in the power stations in Hilla and Kerbala.

Iraq's supergiant Rumaila oil field is already being developed by BP, and the other supergiant reserve, Majnoon oil field, is being developed by Royal Dutch Shell. Both fields are in southern Iraq.

According to the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), Iraq's oil reserves of 112 billion barrels ranks second in the world, only behind Saudi Arabia. The EIA also estimates that up to 90 per cent of the country remains unexplored, due to decades of US-led wars and economic sanctions.

"Prior to the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq, US and other western oil companies were all but completely shut out of Iraq's oil market," oil industry analyst Antonia Juhasz told Al Jazeera. "But thanks to the invasion and occupation, the companies are now back inside Iraq and producing oil there for the first time since being forced out of the country in 1973.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/12/2011122813134071641.html

Shell, Exxon, BP, are big players. I added highlight.

 

I find it interesting that news outlets like CNN would publish this type of report (Why the war in Iraq was fought for Big Oil) once it has become actionably irrelevant to anyone involved.

Where was this type 'investigative' journalism at the height of tensions between these two countries? It makes me question the validity of such a claim, granted that it was made 10 years late. Seems like CNN (and probably other liberal-moderate outlets; i haven't checked for similar articles) are using articles like this to boost their credibility as incisive and polemic (Greenwald on Collective Media Secrecy, and maybe also to contrast the current administration w/ the previous Rep. scourge (however sloppily).

What do ya'll think?

 

It is good when facts get the trolls to crawl back under their bridge.

 

They say money can't buy love.

But maybe gas in our cars and the mobility to go where we want is the next best thing.

 

I don't see how. We export our extra gas already.

 

You can read what our interests were if you've read: the Defense Planning Guidance, "A Clean Break" and Rebuilding America's Defenses.

 

And 25 million Iraqi's are free today living a Democratically elected country opposed to Saddam's dictatorial brutal regime.

 

There are probably 100 reasons why they didn't do it 10 yrs earlier. And it would all be speculation. Or why they do it now.
BTW - that would be another thread.

 

The premise is simply laughable.