He says TM ambushed him from behind.. then he says that Trayvon spoke to him .. then he reached for his phone. He says that he was knocked down by a sucker punch at the T.. Trayvon sat on him ...Pounding him.. (while he scooted over 45 feet n his back).. Then he claims he stumbled and reeled. Lots of inconsistencies. Why would GZ reach for his phone since he knew the police were on their way? Why would he shoot someone when he knew thE police were on their way? Why would he fail to identify himself and diffuse the situation? Didn't George realize that his behavior was extremely suspicious?
Yes, GZ did not see where TM came from, from somewhere behind him. There were brief words exchanged and then he was sucker-punched. Wrong. He was sucker-punched at the T. They moved down the walk and he was pushed down a distance away from the T. Yes. Because now he was in direct contact with the suspect. Because he was having his head banged into concrete and the perp had seen and reached for his gun. He was in danger of serious bodily harm or worse and had no idea how soon the police would arrive. He answered the perps question and then was sucker-punched. Hardly time to exchange pleasantries at this point. Once he was down he was yelling for help. Hardly the situation for a rational discussion. Didn't TM realize his behavior was extremely suspicious?
What was Trayvon doing while George was stumbling and reeling more than 40 feet. Walking home and getting caught in the rain is not suspicious. Following someone in your car and then on foot is suspicious behavior.. Trayvon had NO agenda... He was just walking and talking to a girl. George had three opportunities to speak to Trayvon like a friendly concerned adult...
Zimmy said Trayvon came out from behind bushes Zimmy said he fell backwards, and was mounted at the T So which story is the lie? Trayvon was not a suspect that implies that the police thought he had committed a crime, which was not the case Says the lying gunman Trayvon was not a perp and Zimmy never answered any question What is suspicious about talking to a girl on the phone? Zimmy said Trayvon came out from behind bushes Zimmy said he fell backwards, and was mounted at the T So which story is the lie? Trayvon was not a suspect that implies that the police thought he had committed a crime, which was not the case Says the lying gunman Trayvon was not a perp and Zimmy never answered any question What is suspicious about talking to a girl on the phone?
Moving with, possibly more pushing. GZ refers to being pushed to the ground at a point down the sidewalk from where he was punched. It can certainly look suspicious. Walking up to GZ's vehicle and giving him the stare while circling past the vehicle. All subjective and possibly quite suspicious looking. Neither of us was there to see how TM appeared so to say he wasn't looking suspicious is just you making up crap that you have no way of knowing. You have evidence of following in the car? I have yet to see any evidence of this. Once again you have zero way of knowing this. But that doesn't stop you from stating it as fact. You know that NW says don't do this. Now you want GZ to ignore his NW training? He clearly didn't want a confrontation with TM, but wanted the police to handle it.
Clearly speculation possibly from bushes. He says he came from behind and didn't actually see where he came from. He did not say he was mounted at the T. He said he was punched at the T. Punched at the T and they moved down the walk where TM pushed him down. Not sure your point here. Who freely took and passed the lie-detector. Did not lawyer up but cooperated. Sucker punching GZ makes him a perp. "No [I don't have a problem]." You have zero evidence that GZ didn't answer the question from TM and yet you state it as fact. Residents were encouraged to report suspicious behavior. Someone that you don't know wandering in the dark in your neighborhood can certainly appear suspicious to a resident. Call the NEN and let them decide seems like a smart course of action.
Have you listened to George's NEN tape? If you haven't please do. Who talks to himself while they are being recorded by a dispatcher and calls some stranger an f-ing punk that always gets away? Unless George had sinster motives that night what would be the other reason that he concocted this lame story about looking for an address or having to follow Trayvon because the dispatcher told George to keep an eye on Trayvon? Do I believe that George meant to kill Trayvon? No But I believe he meant to lay hands on Trayvon and detain him and interrogate him and the fact that George believed that he had some type of authority to do so and Trayvon is six feet under because of that is what makes me the most angry.
He is right. Not a confession that he committed 2nd degree murder, only to the events that transpired that night.
Logical reasoning consistent with everything we have heard from GZ up to this point, including his Voice Stress Analysis test that fateful night . Why did you suggest it was something more than that when you don't know that to be true?
Translation: I don't but I'll spew some BS and hope you don't notice. Hmmmm . . . exactly how thorough was that VSA? [video=youtube;oOdAO1Odkms]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOdAO1Odkms[/video]
It's not me suggesting GZ's sealed statement will be contrary to everything else he has said and GZ will give us a "signed confession." That would be you and your wishful unrealistic hoping.
I agree that George confessed when he texted Trayvon's dad and Rev. Al. I bet he used some racial slurs too and that's why O'Mara is wetting his pants about the FBI investigation. The fact that O'Mara allowed George to be interviewed by Sean Hannity confirmed that neither George nor O'Mara had anything to loose meaning that the State had conclusive evidence that George murdered Trayvon that night. There will be so ashamed George lovers once those documents are unsealed.
What do you think it means that both the State and defense agreed that releasing it before trial would prevent George from receiving a fair trial? Either it's a confession or he used some racial slurs or both when he texted Rev. Al and Tracy Martin, and since Rev. Al was involved in publicizing Trayvon's murder and according to George's friends George and his family thought that everything had 'blown over' it's not unrealistic to believe that George become a bit overconfident and bragged about how he had gotten away with murder or was going to get away with it.
I never said it "will be contrary to everything else he has said". That hole you keep digging just keeps getting bigger and bigger. What? No comment on that massive 68 second test? I'm surprised they only did 2. They could have done almost 50 in an hour. _
Confessing to murder would be contrary to everything else he has said. Sure. It shows GZ was cooperating fully with the police and not lawyering up.
Wouldn't that be something. Who needs to lawyer up when your buddies with the Chief of Police? (My bad - former - Chief of Police)
We threw his ass out. For being a Dino. Just like you threw Charlie Crist out, for being a Rino. So now we got Charlie, and Mr. Z is your boy.
It shows that George thought he had gotten away with it and because he had a cop obsession George was so giddy about being around real policemen that he let down his guard and continued to spill his guts with a different story every time he was interviewed.
Of course. Lest we forget George's BFF Mark Osterman is a former Sanford police officer and he was present for the walk-thru the day after the shooting so he could use his influence to help George. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't prompt George during the re-enactment. Unfortunately for George he's hopeless and a bad liar. Also former police chief Billy 'bob' Lee showed up at that HOA meeting on March 1 where one of the tenants who was complaining loudly about George's tactics was thrown out and only pro-George residents were allowed to stay. The DOJ should investigate Lee because there were certain witnesses who had called 911 that night who gave their first police statements AFTER that meeting. Along with exchanging emails with George during an ongoing investigation against him Bill Lee is scum.