Changing the rules

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  1. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    Now Kevy is going to change the rules so no one can stab him in the back like he stabbed Juliar in the back!! AHAHAHHHAAA!!! this boy is a real clown! But we have to ask some questions;
    1. Can we expect this sort of hipocrisy from Kevy to continue?
    2. Are all the Labor party members so gutless that they will do just whatever Kevy tells them?
    3. Is Kruddy in fact a dictator? This is pure dictator behaviour, immediately changing the rules to make it harder to oust them.
    4. Did he organise and work this out in his own time? After all, he is paid to be the Prime Minister, not a Labor party organiser!
     
  2. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pretty smart move actually by Fudd!!......he is also obviously reducing the targets that Abbott has been aiming at! They're wanting to smoke out abbott from his cover of seemingly passive persona (of late), and wanting to draw out his real character, which is endless negativism! I'd have to say abbott is caught between a rock and a hard place!
     
  3. garry17

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    I find this extremely amusing, as Rudd was one of the main protagonists to leadership change after being stabbed in the back. It is amusing that it took three years to co-opt the ALP movement to vote for him, which would never have occurred if he had been a good party member.

    So now he wants to insure his position should he be elected... this obviously is a clear demonstration that once elected the ALP would toss him for somebody better. IS this good government? Obviously not. Next he will try and cement his position as ALP party leader and eliminate any competition (even killing them) so he has a job for life lording his megalomaniac scumbag personality over them.
     
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    Ziggy Stardust Well-Known Member

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    Oh what nonsense garry, "even killing them", how ridiculous.

    Rudd played the politics of the system he was in, just like any other politician, and now he's in a position to change the things he doesn't like about it.
     
  5. garry17

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    obviously by whatever means he can, screw the people, Rudd is in charge.

    How ridiculous is it? He had the answer pink bats, warned of risk, and could not care. Until the people demanded action over deaths he would have ignored, if he thought it would not hurt him... The people demanded he do something. So his previous example of how far this scumbag would go is killing people. Obviously it is not ridiculous as it has been demonstrated in the past.
     
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    We will see if it is a smart move. Or a move by a wanna be smarty. I would imagine that the power brokers he is aiming at are not going to just roll over. I think they would be happy to lose an election than to give up their power. To be totally honest I think they need to lose this election to give them time to clean up their own house. If Abbott is the total useless #$%& that the ALP think he is, then why are they so scared to give him a crack at the top job. I mean if Abbott gets in and is as bad as not only you TV, but all die hard Labor devotees proclaim, it will be a case of long live the ALP, and they would swan around for years to come..... would they not ? Or is because they are a little worried that he may make a fist of it ? do not want to take a chance that he may be better than they thought ?

    I think taking on the big boys right now is Rudds first mistake. That, or perhaps he knows once the election is run and won, he is GONSKY. History repeating itself. Draw knives now and see who lives perhaps ?

    More drama than Days Of Our Lives !
     
  7. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Slippery, I don't think labor would be stupid enough to remove Rudd once again! I'm sure they'll run with these demands, which as I was alluding to is killing a few birds with one stone! One of them will be that abbott will not be able to campaign on this point with any credibility!
     
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    Not so sure TV. The fact he is hammering at them pre election to me seems like he knows something he doesn't like. True, another spill would mean disaster, but they will not put up with their power being destroyed. They will find a way to discredit him, lose the election ( but not by a landslide ), and turf him from the party once and for all. He is not there to win the election, he is there to save seats. They may of under estimated his macabre appeal.

    Will be interesting to watch this play out.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still not sure on that slippery, if they tear the labor party down, there will not be a party for them to excercise such power! They would have to concede certain powers will be lost! I'm sure they'll find a way to manipulate circumstances just as power brokers do in all parties!
     
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    It is completely ridiculous to suggest that Kevin Rudd is going to murder members of the ALP caucus.
     
  11. aussiefree2ride

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    PMSL @ the "negativism" tears from the ALP. Too funny how the Union/ALP controllers have trained their sheeple to flap their wrists, and howl "NEGATIVISM", every time anyone disagrees with one of their hair brained fantasies. Notice how the "negative double standard" is OK when they use it themselves? LMBO
     
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    LOL... As explained example is there... LOL
     
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    They will not get rid of him now... But they also do not have to accept his changes either. Rudd might think he is the emperor of the ALP but really at this stage he has only the power the ALP caucus allows. I think you will find it will be necessary to take this change in ALP party policy to the members to beat the Caucus. While this can be done it will take considerable amount of time of which for this type of change as it is not simply a vote of what ALP members come. Unless he focuses all his time on will not be before the election as all 40thousand members need to be accounted for. This could be simply a smoke and mirrors move by caucus to tentatively support such change, which will not be considered until after the election or Rudd has set his sights on the ALP party and not the election.

    I think this only demonstrates that Rudd does not think he will be around after the next election as leader should everything within the party remains the same. At this stage it only demonstrates that the party remains in turmoil.
     
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    What really pings be off is that this fool is being paid an enormous salary out of the public purse to act as the prime minister and he is clearly spending more than half his time on Labor party business. And just like last time he spends more time flying around big noteing himself than in his office doing the job he is being paid for!
    This fool is mad. He obviously doen't feel important enough sitting in his office, that is why he spends most of his time going to this place and that. He craves the big welcome at each stop, it makes him feel important to have people bowing and scraping all around, to be the centre of attention. All with his pudgy face and little boys haircut! He was before and still is now a tradgety for Australia.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great intellectual insight: how about we just post newspaper headlines and make unoriginal statements, and come up with silly little insults about ones physical characteristics!!!!!!

    Sorry, I forgot to laugh...........:roflol:
     
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    Unfortunately its not just Kevin 07 who dances around the world on tax payer funded “junkets“ but, ALL politicians prance around the world on tax payer funded “junkets” going about their own business and enjoying private holidays on the pretence of official business. The majority of Australian couldn’t give a rats arse these Local, State and Federal politicians are squandering $100’s of millions of their tax payers dollars in this fashion; is the real tragedy of this situation.

    People have to pass a test to become a citizen of Australia. Maybe its time that the power of voting wasn’t just given away as a freebie, but something that should be earned like citizenship. Maybe its time that that some test had to be passed before you were given the power to vote. It would certainly stop numerous fools and idiots who only vote for politicians based on who their friends and families vote for, and who otherwise, wouldn’t have a clue about any politicians or what political parties are all about.
     
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    At least the others don`t embarrass us as much as little Kevin, unless it`s Big Jooles, getting her fat arse bogged in the misogynist grass in India.
     
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    This fool is still doing it, triping around the country and overseas doing everyone elses job instead of sitting in his office doing the job of pm. Clearly he is not allowing any ministers to travel anywhere, when ever any minister has to travel in their job, Kevy goes instead. Whenever there is an anouncement to be made the relevent minister doesn't make it, it's Kevy's face we see on the news instead. Emporer Kruddy has an enormous ego and craves to be the centre of attention all day every day.
     
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    Just one massive mistake emperor Kevin has made to secure temporary vengeance over Gillard. As soon as the 2013 election is over, he is going to be replaced again. LOL LOL
     
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    This is the new Rudd scumbag remember. He has learnt his lessons on the back bench remember... He learnt to shift blame for anything that does not go well for him. Nothing new here, except the flip flops of the ALP support who considered stabbing Rudd in the back as a good move for the nation and suddenly stabbing their savour Gillard, putting scumbag back in was the best for the nation, until next election is over.
     
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    I have questioned the Australian intellect - IQ many times, but just how dumb and backward IS the Australian people that they cannot see throught this childish simplistic ruse by Rudd and the ALP/unions?

    My God, its staggering and embarrassing now :omg: :icon_jawdrop:
     
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    I would hope that the election will demonstrate the people are not as simple and intellectually challenged as many here would show. I do note I had a small discussion with one on the street yesterday who thought it was great that Rudd is so popular and consider he will get back in. When pointed to the problems of Australia to address such issues as global competitiveness and cost to production, agreement was reached that Australia needs to focus on reducing costs of production and increasing manufacturing. I was gobsmacked, the person had no idea that we wear discussing policy that is directly opposite to ALP, YET he supported the ALP come what may. How do you change stupidity like that?
     
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    Garry, we have all encountered stupid idiots like the one you encountered, who know nothing about the political parties or candidates they vote for. They will vote for a candidate based entirely on what the candidate looks like. or what they wear, and that is the extent of their interest and knowledge base. These morons cast an arbitrary vote that effect millions of lives based on pure nonsense. These people are the reason why I am a strong advocate for people to undergo a knowledge test before being allowed to have the power of the vote.

    Unfortunately Garry, 20% -30% of the public have already proven to be intellectually challenged, because they have accepted at face value the ruse Rudd and the ALP/unions have employed without any substance.

    Only education and knowledge can overcome general stupidity, but some ingrained stupidity can never be squelched.
     
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    The Australian car manufacturing industry is doing it tough so what does this idiot do? Changes the fringe benefits rules to take away incentives to buy cars!! Bring on the election, we have got to get rid of this incompendent fool! Last time Kruddy clown was branded the worst prime minister Australia has ever had, well, nothing has changed!
     
  25. culldav

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    Adultmale, I cannot go into much detail, but my wife “served” her 18 years within a Government Department at senior management level. During her sentence, not once did any of these incompetent clowns from either political party give any incentive for Local, State or Federal Government Departments to either buy or lease vehicles, which were manufactured in Australian by Australian workers.

    This is the level of politicians incompetence and stupidity the Australian public have been forced to face on a day-to-day basis, and one which we have had to endure for decades.

    When car industries and manufactures start leaving Australia in favour of manufacturing in China, politicians have their media “mouth-pieces” start broadcasting inaccurate facts about the reasons why these manufactures and industries are leaving, and the stupid Australian people buy it hook, line, and, sinker.

    How in Gods name can politicians say Ford & Holden are leaving Australia because no one wants to buy “big six cylinder” Falcons and Commodores anymore. GM & Ford were given nearly $800million is tax free subsidises over five years by both the ALP and Coalition. Maybe instead of chucking tax payer money away on subsidising these companies, they should have been making sure “ALL” Government departments were buying and leasing Ford & Holden vehicles.

    I’m not suggesting that all government department being made to buy and lease Fords & Holden’s would have prevented these companies leaving Australia, but it sure didn’t help the situation by Government departments leasing and buying imported vehicles, instead of vehicles manufactured in Australia by Australian workers.

    Again, it just demonstrates the level of utter stupidity of politicians, and neglect to understand and fix the most basic problems the country and it people are facing.

    Does it really take the brain of an Einstein to figure out: that a Government is subsidising a vehicle industries and its workers; that some legislations has to be passed to make sure every Local, State and Federal Government Department is either buying or leasing vehicles for these companies.
     

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