Fast Food workers declare minimum wage "unlivable"

Miss slavery much?

 

Miss intelligence much ?

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Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) ?

 

why are you so angry?

 

I'm curious as to why some people want to keep their fellow citizens in poverty. Everyone lives better when the majority of people make more money.

 

...and in all the states where pot is legal they should be able to afford a few grams of green bud, right?

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Great idea. Let's raise the minimum wage to $75/hr and we'll all be rich.

 

Nonsense.

Minimum wage should be what the employer can pay that someone else is willing to work for. Nothing else is "minimum" wage, but MANDATED AT GUNPOINT wage.

Some clod is making $7 an hour and he has a $8 an hour lifestyle? Sounds like someone should be looking to either change his job, or change his lifestyle. Not only is that not complicated, it's nobody else's problem.

 

Here's what happens if the Stupids force McDonald's to raise wages to $15 an hour.

That person that pushes buttons that match the words the customer tells them, takes money, hands over change and a bag of "food"?

The customer pushes the buttons, feeds the money into the slot, or cash is eliminated and it's debit card only, and a machine hands over the "food".

That moron 30-something that's been flipping burgers since 10th grade? He's a robot. So McDonald's BUYS a robot, instead. Whines from electro-mechanical are something to worry about, anyway.

The French Fry Gal, with all the zits? She's another robot, replace that ugly thing with a nice sleek fry-bot.

Get the picture? Robots (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing they're not paid enough to live on can be replaced.

 

Where in Oregon do you live comfortably off minimum wage? Do you pay rent? How many hours do you work?

I have always made 2 to 3 times minimum, even when I was 17. (not complaining about it)

And things were a lot cheaper when I was 17.

I have no idea how you could be comfortable.

Give me a clue.

 

Our economy, despite the worst crisis since the 1930s, is doing much better than Europe's economy. Which is really pathetic on your end.

For that matter, our economy is uncomparable throughout the entire world when comparing regions of similar size and population.

What next Leffe, now you've been schooled are you going to go "Well then Obama must be doing a good job!" I'll save some time and answer that for you, since you're incredibly stupid and predictable.

1. Obama can only do so much damage to an economy with his socialist policies, he's only one man. He certainly can't damage the world's strongest economy (by a long shot) that much as, again, he's only one man.

2. Why change the subject? Didn't you just say that our capitalist economy is doing poorly? Why change the subject Leffe? Is that how you debate?

Again, thanks for playing. Go back to Europa and die the slow death your continent is dying, based on STATISTICS.

 

If they don't like this job why don't they just get another one that pays more?

 

And how exactly is working two part time jobs, going to improve the finances of someone who was working one full time?

Quit your silliness.

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And you deserved it both times.

 

No, far from it buddy. I just have empathy for those on hard times. To be clear, and because you seem adept at adding 1 and 1 and getting 3, I do not believe social welfare should be a lifestyle choice, and dispise those who treat it that way.

 

They would if they could.

 

The top 15 welfare recipient states (per capita) in descending order are...
1. California
2. Maine
3. Tennessee

4. Massachusetts
5. Vermont
6. District of Columbia
7. New York
8 Minnesota
9. Washington
10. New Mexico
11. Indiana
12. Rhode Island
13. Michigan
14. Pennsylvania
15. Oregon

http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310/The_Biggest_US_Welfare_States?slide=2

 

But today, adult immigrants are doing these jobs that used to provide an extra source of income to various groups of people that did not need to live off it. Young adults, students, partially retired older women seeking to add some extra income to the household, the mentally challenged. These entry level jobs also used to offer employment to the transiently unemployed while they were searching for a new job.

 

How many don't take any steps to actually do it? Having a kid when you're single and have no marketable skills is something YOU did. YOU screwed up. They could've payed attention more in school and got a scholarship. They could have NOT gotten pregnant or got someone else pregnant. They could have done lots of things to put them in a very different situation then only being qualified for minimum wage.

Of course there are hardship cases, mental issues and those who got injured, ect. That is NOT the majority. Most working minimum wage are there because they never did anything to get themselves out of it. They COULD have done something about it, but instead they're 30 yrs old with no future. They CHOSE that life. Nobody else did it. They did it.

Minimum wage is not a family living wage. It's a temporary young persons living wage living at home or with a few roommates sharing living expenses. You can certainly live on minimum wage and it won't be much, but it was NEVER supposed to amount to much. Its like there are people here who never lived in a time where fast food workers were all high school kids or college kids who just needed some extra spending cash. That's all working at fast food was for...extra spending cash...not a career, unless you wanted to be a manager.

 

Then more protests, more whining from the left, and more people claiming their "doubled" minimum wage isn't enough to live on.
Not to mention more closed businesses than ever.

 

So even the slightest raise in min wage must be done conservatively, or the costs for a business could be devastating.

Agreed !

 

In order for liberal utopia to exist you need a centrally controlled employment center where all wages are dictated.

Let's set aside the incorrect magazine article posted where they only look at direct labor costs for that McDonalds store. That is a ploy to put a leftist spin on it and if only it were that easy.

Let's not even consider the complete supply chain where salary increases will also occur.

Let's examine just one example and we'll use a Democrat-party friendly group. I am packager in a union shop earning $13 per hour. I earn @ $5 more per hour (62.5 %) than minimum wage and get medical benefits. I live better than min wage workers and my union job ensures that. I'm not fat, dumb and happy but I have no skills and earn more than min wage.

I now see that the convenience store clerk is going to make $16 per hour due to the min wage hike. Will I automatically go to min wage or will I earn more than min wage at the equivalent 62.5% more level I currently enjoy? Will I go to $26 per hour? How will my union handle this? Will they be able to or will my quality of life diminish for the "common good"?

Even as an unskilled union worker I understand that it's almost impossible for every basketball player to play like Lebron. I do understand that it's possible and common for every basketball player on the team to play at a lower level. In other words, I can have parity and "fairness" as long as everyone plays worse, or in the case of the real world, we all lower our lifestyle.

We tend to forget the realities that we accept and understand whenever a "well-intentioned" Democrat tells us that they are looking to help all people through more govt mandates and control

Maybe they should tie Lebron's right hand behind his back so other teams have a chance at victory; that would be the fair thing to do.

 

EXactly if I am going to pay $10 bucks for a burger it will be a gourmet burger at an upscale joint not a McDonalds where I want something fast that is at a minimum palatable. I earned minimum wage one time in my life and it was entry level I was single and had roommates to share the bills. After 90 days I got my first raise and haven't looked back since now in the top 20% of earners.

If you want to make more money make your labor more valuable.

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And when you can get a 5 Brothers, or fill in your favorite gourmet, burger for the same price as a McDonalds which are you going to get?

 

do you mean a 5 guys?

boy did I make a mistake the first visit there and ordered fries for everyone. What were we to do with 10 pounds of french fries !!!!!!!

 

I don't know anyone that wants to keep their fellow citizens in poverty.

I know a ton of people that have a problem forcing businesses to bend over and pay more, offer more, cover more....
when no one is forced to work there.

Pretty sure that's why the retort to your silly "slavery" claim.


McDonald's makes a ton of profit and through charities, uses a lot of those profits to benefit millions of children.

Why do you guys argue for taking that funding away from needy children ?

 

LOL, yeah I made that mistake the first time too. They really fill the bag with those fries. Now we simply split one if we go there.

 

Ha Yeah 5 Guys, my son and I ate there the other day and we both order a small fry and the order takers suggested we just get one regular and we still couldn't eat them all!

 

They want to offshore work because of the minimum wage and protectionist crap like it, and because most first world workers don't want to do difficult, low-skilled jobs like plowing the fields.

The former is the fault of the state, the latter is a perfectly acceptable reason.