Fast Food workers declare minimum wage "unlivable"

Wrong. It affects more than 5% of the people. Raising someone to $7.50 an hour effectively takes them off the minimum wage marker, but that doesn't mean they are being paid what they should be paid.

Oh, here's another thing to note. Raising peoples wages by an average of $3500 a year not only disqualifies them for welfare, it also knocks down their eligibility for the EIC. Saving even MORE money.

Oh and not for nothing, but the government is charged with protecting the rights of the minority, no matter how small that minority.

 

However, in the case of fast food workers. If they all left, the company would make nothing. Zero. The company depends upon those workers for every penny it makes. Sounds to me like those workers are pretty valuable.

 

Leave it up to a liberal to want to workers to start poisoning Americans.

 

At NO point did Potter say he wanted that to happen you liar. I mean seriously why tell such an outrageous lie?

 

You work a fulltime job, then work part time 10 or 15 hrs....that doesn't equal 80 hours.

 

This is so funny if it were not so creepy!

There’s so much suffering in the world. It can all get pretty overwhelming sometimes. Consider, for a moment the sorrow in the eyes of a CEO who’s just found out that his end-of-year bonus is only going to be a paltry $2.3 million.

“It felt like a slap in the face. Imagine what it would feel like just before Christmas to find out that you’re going to be forced to scrape by on your standard $8.4 million compensation package alone. Imagine what is was like to have to look into my daughter’s face and tell her that I couldn’t afford to both buy her a dollar sign shaped island and hire someone to chew her food from now on, too. To put her in that situation of having to choose… She’s only a child for God’s sake.”

It doesn’t have to be this way. Thanks to federal subsidies from taxpayers like you, CEO’s like G. Allen Andreas of Archer Daniels Midland was able to take home almost $14 million in executive compensation last year. But he’s one of the lucky ones. There are still corporations out there that actually have to provide goods and services to their consumers in order to survive. They need your help.

For just $93 billion a year the federal government is able to provide a better life for these CEO’s and their families. That’s less than the cost of 240 million cups of coffee a day. Won’t you help a needy corporation today?

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He said don't cry when we get half cooked burgers and get sick. Did you not (*)(*)(*)(*)ing read it?

 

Dude saying "if you hire substandard employees X might happen" isn't even close to saying " I sure hope X happens"

I'm so sick of dishonesty.

 

Its not happening now and people making burgers are making min wage. Its a stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing comment to make.

 

Nope. The purpose of a job is to create value for an enterprise. An employer 'gives' you a job so as to increase the company's bottom line.

Funny how all these people who hate corporations want to tell them how to run their business and how much they must pay their employees.

 

Nobody can afford to live on minimum wage in a major city. 160 hours at even $10/hr is only about $1300 after taxes. Just decent medical insurance for a family of 3 is $1K or more. Then you have food, rent, utilities, other insurances, etc. I figure anyone taking home less than $3K a month in USA is hurting bad and living check to check.

 

Sweat shops are illegal. Minimum wage is there for a purpose - so corporations don't take advantage of Americans. Congress really needs to push minimum wage to about $15 an hour because there is no way to live on less than that.

 

30 million people are out of work; there aren't a lot of jobs available that are out of the minumum wage area.

 

Again, show us where "minimum wage" is now required to be a "living wage" to support a family ? Folks will need to live in tight quarters if they want to support a family. Like the Pakistani's and Indians do. 3 bedrooms = 3 families.

Otherwise, it ain't gonna happen. If one is only ever worth minimum wage than it sucks to be them !!!!

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Thank you Barack Obama !!

 

And what happens when the wage goes up to $15/hr and prices of goods goes up because of it and the same people still can't afford those goods, and the companys actually don't keep as many of them on staff?

 

Looking past that this statement can’t be true, it may be true that few people could live off a minimum wage in major city X but could in city Y; this doesn’t take into account the dependents and related living expenses of any of the people included in these assertions. After fixing the pertinent variables of these city-dwellers, some statement may be made about minimum wage-earners in city X; while the same may not be made for city Y.

This would be a beginning.

“Science!”

 

Based on what?

You do realize that as soon as you raise the minimum wage to that level, the cost of goods and services will rise to compensate, and the actual real value of the minimum wage employees will be the same as it is now. All you did was cause inflation.

I don't have to.

Wages are not relative. That preposition is the cannon fodder of the class warfare crowd.

How much somebody else makes has no bearing on how much "the little guy" makes.

Wages are determined by market value, not abstract subjective "fairness".

 

Really, if they want to go with that argument, then let's take a good hard look at independent business owners, you know, the self-employed guy. I know, because I've been self employed and have chosen to return to the workforce because overall I make higher pay for less hours...

Let's also understand that the annual gross revenues of a company do NOT indicate profit and in no way tell you anything about how much money the owners or their employees make. It is important because it indicates how much that business does move money in the market, which in turn boosts operations across the sector, but is not a figure to be used when discussing individual income.

This really gets to the heart of a lot of discussion about taxation of businesses in this country and why many move offshore. Until recently, we had the second highest corporate taxes in the world, we now have the highest. When you tax a business to death, it either doesn't survive or moves offshore...assuming it is big enough and has enough capital to do so. This is a different scenario though than the small, independent owner.

As the owner of my own business I worked on average 70-80 hours per week. Sometimes more, sometimes less. In a 3 year period, I took exactly zero vacations. After paying my taxes, after paying my overhead and all other manner of the things I was required to pay, federally, locally, etc and taking into account the hours I worked, I averaged an hourly wage of around $4.75-$6.00. Less than federal minimum wage. My employees actually made more per hour than I did. I sold off the business because I was unable to provide important time for my family, as a husband and a father. I have no doubt that if I had continued the business, after a number of years it would have been successful and I would eventually be working less and making more, but the cost in terms of my family was not worth it.

I have friends that are in that very boat today, owning and running a business. We have a sarcastic response to each other when we do have a chance to talk...hey buddy, how's it going?, I ask, "living the dream!" they respond. There's nothing dreamy about running your own business in America today. It is long hours, it is difficult, it is trying at the best of times. Some are willing to put the time and effort in over a period of years to reap the benefits and that's their choice. The day will come where they will be making it big and enjoying their life. Nothing wrong with that. I was just not personally willing to sacrifice my family for it, and that was "my" choice, nothing wrong with that either. People who want to sit in judgement about a business generally have no clue because they've never owned or run one.

Large corporations are a different animal, but I do not begrudge the CEO of Microsoft making what he makes. I understand business, but I at least know myself well enough (and have enough honesty and integrity) to know that I could never be the CEO of a large corporation. I am not smart enough, I don't have the education or background for it, nor the drive to do so. Not just anyone can be a CEO of a giant company, this is not simply something you go to school for and then get hired to. Very, very few people make it to the top, and for good reason. I guarantee you it isn't because they are greedy or "hate the little people". Are there pompous, self important arses running some companies, you bet, but I can find people with the exact same traits flipping burgers too.

 

Let's try to deal with reality here. If they left someone else would take their jobs.

 

Who put those bases in those states? Who fights the hardest when the military says that they don't need them?

MD and VA with most federal employes give more than they get.

 

You want your hamburgers cooked or half cooked?

 

The error in your statement was "...for a family of 3...".

If you are making minimum wage, you should not have a family to house and feed.

 

Can I say that this is one classical right wing response?

 

The responses from the right are really ridiculous.

 

Horse puckey.

I'll believe your statement though if you say "There is no way to live on minimum wage and also have a big screen TV, a smart phone with unlimited data plan, Netflix, an XBox Gold account, a shiny new car/truck/SUV with all sorts of aftermarket bling, t-bone steaks for the grill every other night, oh and 3 kids and an old lady to feed". Yeah, that'd be a little difficult on minimum wage.

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Hmmmm...and I wonder who might have something to do with that.......