Nazi murderers of Jews still walking around USA

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    When ww3 breaks, it will be because of israel.

    A nuke war will be more of a burnt offering, than ww2

    That's the best court that i have witnessed of germany. ie..... people are not born jew. People believe in judaism are how they become 'jewish'. The ignorance that people have come to believe that a 'jew' is an inheritance at birth, is as stupid as believing mankind was 'created' with hands, arms and legs.


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    Is this what you, Bishadi, were intending to say in your post?
    I always figured that humans were created with hands, arms and legs.
     
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    They help but I always thought it was with other parts of our anatomy.
     
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    If WW3 breaks out it will because of Islamic Imperialist Jew hating genocidal madmen attacking Israel.
     
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    More likely because of bare-faced lying neoZionist warmongers inventing Islamic Imperialist Jew hating genocidal madmen attacking Israel.
     
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    Learn how to speak, read, and write in English and then come back to the forum, the Nazi's determined Jewishness not based on religion but upon genealogy. And once again the overwhelming majority of Jews have, as has been shown by numerous genetic studies, a common ancestry stemming from a core population from the neolithic Levant.
     
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    Ah, you mean that some modern jews are closely genetically linked to the Semitic peoples who have occupied Palestine since the Paleolithic. Many are not , of course.

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    No more like due to pedophile worshiping, Jew hating, baby killer loving, Hitler celebrating, genocide supporting Muslims, and then of course you're have the western Jew hating Islamophiles inventing conspiracy theories to blame the Jews just like these Jew hating anti-Semitic pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*) invented conspiracy theories about the Jews doing 9-11, the Jews controlling the media, the banks, starting WW2, WW1, and the Russian and French revolutions.

    We're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing on to you people, same old anti-Semitic canards just another day. ;)

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    Um if you are referring to those Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" their genetic lineage stems not from the Levant but from the Arabian Peninsula.

    Populations of the Caucasus,
    flanked by Cypriots, form an almost uninterrupted rim that separates
    the bulk of Europeans from Middle Eastern populations. Bedouins,
    Jordanians, Palestinians and Saudi Arabians are located in close
    proximity to each other, which is consistent with a common origin
    in the Arabian Peninsula25,


    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...MK7x7gCdz_nac20ihIKaOEw&bvm=bv.49784469,d.eWU

    80% of males, 50% of females, as I said the vast majority.
     
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    Have you ever come across evidence to prove that many DID NOT die of Typhus ?


    btw - its interesting that you should mention "untermenschen." a term I 've also heard (during a brief visit to Israel) - made by a couple of Israeli Jews - referring to Palestinian Arabs in Hebron.


    if translated into American- English its LOW LIFE -or sub-human - Right ? They also used a slang Hebrew word for Arabs - which I cant remember.

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    Once again you have already been debunked on this point, they were not considered Jews under Nazi race laws, they were considered Mischlings, and as the war progressed the insane Nazi ideology came to actually trump military necessity and military/party membership could no longer save those Jews from extermination,


    ...as the war dragged on, Nazi politics came to trump military logic, even in the face of the Wehrmacht's growing manpower needs, closing legal loopholes and making it virtually impossible for these soldiers to escape the fate of millions of other victims of the Third Reich.


    http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html

    A German Blood Certificate[citation needed] (Deutschblütigkeitserklärung) was a document provided by Hitler to Mischlinge (those with partial Jewish heritage), declaring them deutschblütig (of German blood).[1] This practice was begun sometime after the Nuremberg Laws of 1935, and allowed exemption from most of Germany's racial laws.[1] The certificate was conditional, and had a clause stating that it would be reconsidered after the cessation of hostilities.[citation needed]

    Mischling is a term used during the Third Reich era in Germany to denote persons deemed to have partial Jewish ancestry. This word literally means “mixed”.

    In order to join the Nazi party and get a certificate, the candidate had to prove through baptismal records that all direct ancestors born since 1750 were not Jewish, or they could apply for a German Blood Certificate.

    These certificates are 8-1/4 by 11-3/4 inches with a signature on the front and the red seal of the Office of Racial Research on the NSDAP. The back side lists the ancestry history back to the grandparents of the father and the mother.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Blood_Certificate

    The one case that I know of a Mischling actually achieving high status in the Nazi Party is Erhard Milch who was an officer in the German military during WW1 prior the rise of the Nazi Party and whose expertise was critical in the German rearming campaign and war effort, this man was not a member of the SS he was a Field Marshall in the regular Wehrmacht responsible for reorganizing the Luftwaffe. Just who are the rest of these "high ranking Nazi's" who "did the holocaust"???
     
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    Yes, the typhus epidemic had been almost eliminated in August of 1942, while the inmates who were selected for extermination immediately upon arrival were not registered, of those who were registered and issued death certificates very few died of typhus putting an end to the typhus myth:

    In 1989, the Auschwitz Archives in Moscow were opened for the first time since the Soviets liberated the camp in January 1945. These archives contain thousands of documents which survived destruction by the camp authorities when they fled the advancing Soviet forces. Among the items discovered were the Auschwitz Death Books. These books contain the death certificates of registered prisoners only. Nonregistered prisoners who were killed upon arrival did not receive a death certificate. The death books are incomplete. They contain the certificates of 68,864 registered prisoners who died from August 1941 to December 1943.There are no books for 1944 or periods prior to August 1941.They are either missing or were destroyed. Also, there are a number of missing books for the period August 1941 to December 1943. However, each book contains between 1400 and 1500 entries. [29] By interpolating 1500 entries into each missing death book we can arrive at approximately 80,000 deaths of registered prisoners for 1942 and 1943. [30] Dr. Tadeusz Paczula, a former Auschwitz inmate, was in the camp from 1940. He also kept the death registries for registered inmates. He later testified that for the two years following the summer of 1942, about 130,000 names were entered into the death registries. [31]

    Nevertheless, the nearly 69,000 death certificates available afford researchers the opportunity to see exactly what was killing registered prisoners. It is now known on the basis of these certificates that very few prisoners died from typhus. [32] They show that only 2060 of the 68,864 deaths were from typhus. While typhus can be lethal, it need not necessarily be so. Lucie Adelsberger, a Jewish prisoner and camp doctor, got typhus, was quarantined, and resumed her duties after recovery. [33] Similarly, Ella Lingens Reiner, a German doctor, who was also a prisoner, contracted typhus and survived. [34] One of the early Auschwitz memoirs, written in 1947, recounts an episode with camp doctor Josef Mengele, later to become known as the "Angel of Death" for his medical experiments. Mengele was disturbed about the typhus epidemic. The former prisoner wrote: "Alas, typhus epidemics did rage in the camp, but at this time we had comparatively few victims. The same day he [Mengele] sent us a large quantity of serum and directed mass vaccinations." [35] Petro Mirchuk, a Ukranian prisoner, wrote that a delousing in August 1942, the worst month of the epidemic, "eliminated the epidemic and the billions of fleas and lice ceased to exist." [36]


    http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

    If only 130,000 people were even granted death certificates at Auschwitz then why would they need a crematoria capacity of more than 80,000 per month? It makes no sense. The highest number of registered inmates at Auschwitz ever was in 1944 at 92,000, if the vast majority of Jews who entered the camps were not selected for immediate extermination why did they need a cremation capacity of more than 80,000 per month with ovens with 52 muffles in the Krematoria at Auschwitz each with a 2 - 3 body capacity (let's say 2) with a burn rate for each muffle of appx. 45 minutes (let's say an hour) allowing for 4 hours of down time per day bringing us to a burn rate of 2080 bodies incinerated per day (52 muffles x 2 bodies x 20 hours) and a per month burn rate of 62,400?

    Once again the highest level of registered prisoners ever at Auschwitz was 92,000 in 1944, so are you people honestly going to assert that a cremation capacity capable of burning 2/3's of the camps registered population in a month was necessary if they were not killing unregistered inmates immediately upon entrance into the camps? That simply does not hold water.

    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/cremation/Furn-cap.shtml
     
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    Their starting numbers are always wrong and ask where they come from, they will tell you Rabbi so and so said so and he got it from The Book and ask how The Book came by those numbers ,,,,,,,well then we go into The Book never lies.

    And ask how many left Europe before the War and how many were left, and how many left during and after War and live/d elsewhere and so on ....and ask how their numbers are come by and so on

    It is by the last serious study, thought that, of all causes, around 700,00 Jews died in Europe during WWII and there never were six million to die of Typhoid or anything else.

    The photos of Belsen we see are not of the bodies of Jews only, the Jewish compound was barely touched by typhoid soooooo even the horrors that were real are not always Jewish horrors alone.

    Typhoid hit every where because without infrastructure it could not be contained as food could not be carried to the camps either ..........


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    You are simply lying, you have been given the World Almanac figures countless times and have to this day not offered a valid rebuttal.

    According to the World Almanac Census data the number of Jews alive in 1949 at 11,266,600 now when we subtract that number from the 1938 census data of 16,588,259 the number of Jews who disappeared into the ether over that decade was 5,321,659.

    http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.cgi?people//f/freedman.benjamin/background-data

    The census figures are for the global Jewish population not the European Jewish population.

    Furthermore; would you care to provide a single scrap of evidence for a mass Jewish exodus prior to the war? And if so why would a WORLD census figure fail to account for them after the war?

    What a complete and utter load of bull(*)(*)(*)(*), the Yad Vashem project alone lists by name appx. 4.2 million Jews killed in the holocaust. Every single solitary legitimate study on the subject puts the number between 5 and 6 million Jews killed during the holocaust. These figures use numerous census comparisons coupled with detailed analysis of tens of thousands of Nazi documents which included amongst other things the number of Jews who were recorded as deported to the extermination camps but never registered there and subtracting the number of survivors from that number.


    The typhus epidemic had been almost eliminated in August of 1942, while the inmates who were selected for extermination immediately upon arrival were not registered, of those who were registered and issued death certificates very few died of typhus putting an end to the typhus myth:

    In 1989, the Auschwitz Archives in Moscow were opened for the first time since the Soviets liberated the camp in January 1945. These archives contain thousands of documents which survived destruction by the camp authorities when they fled the advancing Soviet forces. Among the items discovered were the Auschwitz Death Books. These books contain the death certificates of registered prisoners only. Nonregistered prisoners who were killed upon arrival did not receive a death certificate. The death books are incomplete. They contain the certificates of 68,864 registered prisoners who died from August 1941 to December 1943.There are no books for 1944 or periods prior to August 1941.They are either missing or were destroyed. Also, there are a number of missing books for the period August 1941 to December 1943. However, each book contains between 1400 and 1500 entries. [29] By interpolating 1500 entries into each missing death book we can arrive at approximately 80,000 deaths of registered prisoners for 1942 and 1943. [30] Dr. Tadeusz Paczula, a former Auschwitz inmate, was in the camp from 1940. He also kept the death registries for registered inmates. He later testified that for the two years following the summer of 1942, about 130,000 names were entered into the death registries. [31]

    Nevertheless, the nearly 69,000 death certificates available afford researchers the opportunity to see exactly what was killing registered prisoners. It is now known on the basis of these certificates that very few prisoners died from typhus. [32] They show that only 2060 of the 68,864 deaths were from typhus. While typhus can be lethal, it need not necessarily be so. Lucie Adelsberger, a Jewish prisoner and camp doctor, got typhus, was quarantined, and resumed her duties after recovery. [33] Similarly, Ella Lingens Reiner, a German doctor, who was also a prisoner, contracted typhus and survived. [34] One of the early Auschwitz memoirs, written in 1947, recounts an episode with camp doctor Josef Mengele, later to become known as the "Angel of Death" for his medical experiments. Mengele was disturbed about the typhus epidemic. The former prisoner wrote: "Alas, typhus epidemics did rage in the camp, but at this time we had comparatively few victims. The same day he [Mengele] sent us a large quantity of serum and directed mass vaccinations." [35] Petro Mirchuk, a Ukranian prisoner, wrote that a delousing in August 1942, the worst month of the epidemic, "eliminated the epidemic and the billions of fleas and lice ceased to exist." [36]


    http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

    If only 130,000 people were even granted death certificates at Auschwitz then why would they need a crematoria capacity of more than 80,000 per month? It makes no sense. The highest number of registered inmates at Auschwitz ever was in 1944 at 92,000, if the vast majority of Jews who entered the camps were not selected for immediate extermination why did they need a cremation capacity of more than 80,000 per month with ovens with 52 muffles in the Krematoria at Auschwitz each with a 2 - 3 body capacity (let's say 2) with a burn rate for each muffle of appx. 45 minutes (let's say an hour) allowing for 4 hours of down time per day bringing us to a burn rate of 2080 bodies incinerated per day (52 muffles x 2 bodies x 20 hours) and a per month burn rate of 62,400?

    Once again the highest level of registered prisoners ever at Auschwitz was 92,000 in 1944, so are you people honestly going to assert that a cremation capacity capable of burning 2/3's of the camps registered population in a month was necessary if they were not killing unregistered inmates immediately upon entrance into the camps? That simply does not hold water.

    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/cremation/Furn-cap.shtml
     
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    Well IMO - there's really no telling what is truth and what are lies about the Holocaust.

    We've all heard abt some so-called Holocost "survivors" who were later on exposed as liars - , we've heard abt the the Human fat soap which received a religious Jewish burial ceremony - in Israel -, abt the Jewish skin -Lampshades, etc,etc- We've also heard the other story abt another Six Million Jews who was supposed to have been slaughtered in Russia , long before WW2, but for some peculiar reasons, Zionist Jews have kept quiet abt much worst atrocities in Eastern Europe committed by Bolshevik Jews in the name of Bolshevism - Jews who ordered the slaughter of more than 10 million Ukrainian-Christians. - Jews keep blabbering on abt the Holocaust but continue ignoring the Ukrainian Holodomor where Jews were in high positions in the Cheka + NKVD.

    The six-million story is , IMO an exaggeration, People died /people was , killed, but I don't think it ALL happened as the Zionist + Zionist sympathizers say it was supposed to have happened.

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    Somebody unacquainted with the difficulties of the problem might assume that the real number of Jewish victims can be easily calculated by comparing pre-war and post-war population statistics, but this is not the case, for dependable statistics simply do not exist. To start with, the number of Jewish victims naturally depends on the definition of the word "Jewish", and there is no generally recognized such definition. Are the Jews a race, a nation or a religion? All three answers are partially true, but only partially. Can a person who was born into a Jewish familiy still be considered to be a Jew even if he has totally renounced the Jewish religion and tradition? I do not know the answer. Furthermore, regardless of how you define a Jew, the statistics about the Jewish world population are very contradictory and suspect from the very beginning because the figures are more often than not furnished by the Jewish organizations, which evidently have to respect the Holocaust dogma according to which roughy one third of the Jews were exterminated during World War Two.

    The leading pre-war expert on Jewish population statistics, Arthur Ruppin, stated that there were 16.7 million Jews in the world in 1939 (13). For the immediate postwar years, the World Almanac gave the following figures: 15.19 million in 1945 and 15.7 million in the following four years, from 1946 to 1949. But its 1949 issue, the World Almanac quoted the figures furnished by the American Jewish commitee according to which there had been 16.6 million Jews in 1939 and only 11.2 million in 1947 (14). On the other hand, in an article published in the Jewish-owned New York Times in early 1948, Hanson Baldwin, a military expert and specialist on Palestine, stated that there were between 15 and 18 million Jews worldwide (15). As you see, the Jewish world population statistics enable you as easily to prove that the Holocaust took place as they allow you to prove that it didn't; it just depends upon which statistics you prefer to believe. It's not in these statistics that we are going to find the answer to our question how many Jews really perished as a result of German policy.

    http://www.historiography-project.com/misc/graf_jewishlosses.html
     
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    Going from low-life to sub-human is a bit of a stretch.

    People in the UK refer to "Chavs" in a less than complimentary way, and Googling it you get "scum" commonly associated with it. Heck, look at Bishadi who regularly refers to swine, sissies, and people with curlers in their hair.

    So I'm guessing some group calling another group names - not something unique to Israel in any way.
     
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    ''Thanks to the German documents which have survived in large numbers, we can determine the number of Jews who died from all causes (diseases, starvation, exhaustion, execution) in the concentration camps which a certain degree of accuracy. It can hardly have exceeded 300,000. According to Jewish author Wolfgang Sofsky, about 450,000 concentration camp victims are registered by name (24). Now this figure may be incomplete, but of course a large part of the victims were non-Jewish. In some of the camps, Jews definitely accounted for a minority of the deceased. To quote but one example, of the approximately 26,000 prisoners who died in the Stutthof concentration camp near Dantzig about 8,000 were Jewish (25).''


    http://www.historiography-project.com/misc/graf_jewishlosses.html


    Three hundred ,,,thousand, is realistic ...............................not six million. bit of a difference eh?
     
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    Seems to me Nazi war criminals live very long lives. 93, 92, 87, 94.
     
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    It's only denialist conspiracy theory cranks who question historical reality.
     
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    :roflol:

    now that is truly funny.
     
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    And even they're starting to admit it's a lost cause.

    Congratulations. denialists. Iran, home of the Photoshopped Defense Department, loves you. Keep on truckin'!
     
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    No it isn't lost but those who tell the truth do tend to loose their jobs and or treedom or even their lives .................. revisionism is only for the brave.

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    you think there weren't even 6 million Jews in Europe during WW2?

    lolol!!!!!

    talk about denial of history.
     
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