When your 11 year old has psychological issues; seek out an "unbiased" homosexual

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  1. funinsnow

    funinsnow Banned by Member Request

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    1 thing which must be added is that in most cases, if a gay is homolesting others, it's usually not going to be reported to cops. Most men and boys who are victims of gays usu. won't call cops to report that a gay is committing indecent exposure, harassment or in worst cases homolestation until some1 finally bashes the gay. Yes, they should report this to cops and let the cops arrest the gays but I have no sympathy for these gays who get bashed. If a gay is going to look for 15 year old boys on Internet to meet and abuse-if instead they get bashed by men who pretended to be the 15 year old they had hoped to meet, then no sympathy for the gay. The Russian men who are bashing gays are doing this because they won't tolerate gays going after teenage boys. yes, while vigilanteism must still be punished by law as you have to do it legally with cops arresting the gays who abuse teenage boys and then the legal system punishing the gays after they've been hopefully convicted, what is happening here is vigilanteism. The gays who are looking for teenage boys to homolest get no sympathy for being bashed. Yes, vigilanteism must be punished by law as what is being done here is assault & battery, but it's less sensational than what media makes it out to be.To homosexual/lesbian groups, their heros are people such as homosexual stautory rapist coward Harvey B. Milk. Homosexual/lesbian groups side with homosexual no matter what the homosexuals do including again coward Harvey B. Milk.

    With Harvey B. Milk homosexual/lesbian groups such as Laramie Project, Shepard Foundation and Journalist Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape on a 16 year old boy in 1964. Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt's a farting Squaw who while pregnant sometimes did turds in front of her husband. Most gay bashings are men reacting to crimes the homosexual & transexual ( worse than homosexuals) did. Homosexuals often harass teenage boys or smaller men & the men react by bashing the homosexual. I would rather have a case where a jury decides if a man’s reaction to bashing or killing a homosexual after the homosexual did indecent exposure was justified or excess, vs. the man not doing enough & the homosexual does something worse.

    Homosexual/lesbian sexual behaviors are bad-they must try to find a cure for this. Transexuals are worse than the homose and they must make it a crime to do sex change maimings. 1 does not need to be Judeo-Christian to be against this. Big Island Chronicle's Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt has smoked marijuana. Of course Big Island Chronicle’s Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt sees nothing wrong with Florida lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt sexually abusing a 14 year old girl in public bathroom http://spectator.org/blog/2013/05/23…t-to-normalize Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt is likely related to lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt & Big Island Chronicle’s Tiffany Camille Edwards Hunt masturbated after she learned Florida lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt sexually abused a 14 year old girl in a bathroom. Huffington Post when it comes to gay topics give 1/2 truths. Huffington Posters saw nothing wrong with Florida lesbian Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt sexually abusing a 14 year old girl in a public restroom and predictably Huffington Post and Daily Kos (even worse) both see nothing wrong with sexual abuse when it's done by gays.
     
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    someone other than a homosexual who also runs a cross dressing camp.

    You don't bring a smoker into a smoking lounge to get them to quit smoking.

    It's obvious to me that for some perverse reason, the parents want to mess with the child.
     
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    Do you have any (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idea what a hate group is? You don't need to have blood on your hands. You can't possibly deny that at LEAST the FRC is a hate group.
     
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    Do you have any evidence that Wells is a homosexual?
     
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    The ignorance is astonishing. And I'd say they have plenty of blood on their hands with all the suicides reparative therapy has caused.
     
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    All of which would be relevent if I was not talking about the LAW. That's how it works, the laws have to balance everything in question. Which means that I only get to curtail someone's rights to accomadation for a very good reason. The only one that comes to that is religion because free exercise of religion is in the Constitution of the US. Your personal opinion is not protected that way. You don't have the right to deny a service because you don't like someone, you do have that right based on the right of free exercise of religion. You can advocate for any law you want.

    You are only allowed to discriminate based on what is actually happening. I don't care how scary that black kid in a hoodie looks, you can't assume that he's doing something, on drugs, or a gang banger unless he's doing that. Get it?

    Look if a guy sticks a gun in your face, you can do what you want. What you can't do is take a couple of kids who are shoplifting at a 7-11 and assume that they're obviously on drugs, obviously going to shoot you -- all because of what they look like. it's not a good idea, both legally and safety-wise to escalate every situation to the maximum and assume that just because the kid shoplifted that he's going to shoot you.
     
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    Vigilanteeism is self-government if approved by the majority. It is not, as the fascist authoritarians claim, a tiny group acting as "judge, jury, and executioner." It is a tiny group that is judged by the jury of the majority to have executed the people's will. The rule of law is the law of the rulers. They have to obey the 99%; we don't have to obey their laws.
     
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    Or about patriotism. He's a gutless puke draftdodger, even though he talks tough. When the yellow yell, hollow fools follow.
     
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    What part of 'they should be taken instead to someone whose actually qualified to treat them"

    did 'you' not understand?
     
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    How is the FRC a hate group again? Please post links to prove this.
     
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    Well, for starters, there's no reason to believe that Wells was not qualified. His qualifications are outstanding and it seems like he specializes in this field. To take it from his bio page:

    He's not just well-qualified, you'd be hard-pressed to find a single psychologist with a better pedigree when it comes to talking about gender identity. Not to mention that what he proposed does not differ greatly from the general standard of care recommended for transsexuals. He certainly was not acting as a maverick or going against what the current state of the science in the field was. It's like complaining when a doctor recommends chemotherapy for cancer because you bought into the crap peddled by people like Joe Mercola. It doesn't make the doctor less qualified, it means you have no clue what you're talking about.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council
    http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.c...he-family-research-council-is-a-hate-group-2/
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-16/why-not-call-the-family-research-council-a-hate-group-.html
    ...Shall I go on?
     
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    The posters denying the link between childhood sex abuse and adult gay/lesbian behaviors including here are usually gay , lesbian or a sympathizer. But honestly again, it's my view that you're denying what you know is true because any behavior including sexual behavior can be learned by what 1 sees in youth. Sex abuse in youth can cause people to behave in ways they wouldn't have. It's not controversial to talk of nightmares, suicides, bedwetting often a result of sex abuse in youth esp. sex abuse where gays homolest young boys. Yet when 1 talks of a person doing gay/lesbian behaviors in adulthood because this is sexual behavior they learned by being repeatedly homolested when they were boys, then the gays with politically safe psychologists complain about how their's no link, that it's correlation not causation but this is rubbish. The politically correct psychologists who deny this know it's possible for a boy to turn out gay as a result of childhood sex abuse, yet they still deny what they know is true. Most transexuals were sexually abused in childhood which messed up their minds. Abolish sex change maimings. Childhood sex abuse does cause adult gay/lesbian behaviors for some and it's undebatable truth.
     
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    What part if "who do you think this child should be taken to" do you not understand?

    Looks like the parents already did so, so thanks for agreeing.
     
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    Nice of you to assume who you 'think' I agree with. The fact is I agree with the original poster, not with you or with the other haters responding to him.

    Thanks for 'playing'...
     
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    I read all of the links from the SPLC (known for lying about little old grandmothers), Pamshouseblend (a leftwing nut site _ which is known for parroting the lies of the splc), and the Bloomberg.com site which is also parroting the lies of the SPLC.

    The SPLC falsely labeled the FRC as a hate group with absolutely no facts to back it up..

    And as for 'taking the child to a 'qualified' professional" taking that child to someone pushing a 'agenda' (without I might add FDA approval)...instead of a qualified (impartial psychiatrist) ...is 'not' taking that child to a 'qualified' professional.

    BTW even Dr. Phil would have been more qualified than the 'hack' to whom the parents 'rushed' the child.
     
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    Linking only proves Netties are chained to the self-appointed authority of professionals. We've got to get away from this respect for the kind of ambitious imbeciles who achieve authoritative positions in these decadent times.
     
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    Maybe you should read more, look at the links provided. There are plenty of reasons the FRC is labeled a hate group. The have done untold damage to many people with "reparative" therapy. The facts are there, you just don't like them.

    Furthermore, if you had read the previous links about this case, you'd know that the parents are doing the best thing for their child. Their child will not be able to transition until he is an adult, as is appropriate.




    - - - Updated - - -

    That's for sure.
     
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    promoting an opinion that does not parrot the gay agenda does not = "hate group"


    show me a group that is calling for the death or imprisonment of gays.... something like that. If CFA is donating money to them... Then I'd agree. The groups they donate to are simply groups that you don't agree with and you flasely label them "hate groups" to try and push your agenda more.

    It's a good thing I learned from history of propaganda and know how to pick out such tactics.
     
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    -homosexuality and transexuality (mutilated gays/lesbians) are what causes suicides.

    Yes, repair therapy to treat gayism, lesbianism often fails as repair therapy does for drug junkyism-this should be there for those who want this. Yes, proof burden is on repair therapists, but if you aren’t going to have repair therapy for gayism, then you may as well not have repair therapy for drug junkyism or drunkardism, because it often fails. Repair therapy for gays and lesbians who want to be straight must be available just as repair therapy must be available for a drug junky who wants to become clean. Sex changes should be abolished. I’m against sex changes for the same reason as I oppose trying to make a White person Black or viceversa because they think they were born of another race. Sex changes are a sad waste of science. Incidentally, must repeat that I am not religious so don’t give me a lecture on Christianity, Islam or so on. My reasons for being against gayism, lesbianism and transsexuality is unrelated to any faith.

    And minors can not be forced into repair therapy-unless there is a court order, people can not be forced into any medical or psychologial treatment. There are court orders where a convicted drunk driver is reqd. to have counseling. If the drunk driver does not sincerely want to change, then forced counseling is not going to help them. Mainstream psychology/medicine is not to be trusted on gay/lesbian topic and too many people accept what is said w/o challenging or having doubts. You can pay experts to say things which agree with gay/lesbian agenda and that is has happened with psychology/medicine since 1973. Can sexual orientation for some gays and lesbians change-in 2001 Dr. Spitzer said that change was possible for highly motivated individuals and that it happened after long journey and he got condemned by gay/lesbian groups. In 2007, he said that while gays and lesbians should not be forced into therapy, he believed it was the hubris of psychologists to deny this for those who want it. In 2012, Dr. RL Spitzer retracted, apologized to gay/lesbian groups, saying therapy doesn’t work and condemned it. What I must wonder is did Dr. Spitzer in 2012 say what he believed, or did he say it to pacify gay/lesbian groups ? People have a right to doubt Dr. Spitzer’s sincerity.
     
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    I'm sorry, are we reading the same websites? Did you even take the time to cast a cursory glance at the SPLC website? Here, let me save you the trouble.

    ...Yeah. Totally not a hate group. The SPLC doesn't just say "these guys are a hate group". The page goes on for ages about how the FRC continued to espouse completely discredited science in an attempt to slander homosexuals on numerous fronts, how their main activities involve spreading derogatory misinformation about homosexuals... Did you even read the article? Because I didn't cite them because SLPC is some authoritative source on hate groups (well, they are, but no matter), I cited them because they make their case very convincingly. Would you care to tell me what it takes in your book to qualify as a hate group? Because denying that these guys are one disqualifies basically everything.

    Except that there's no reason to believe that Wells is anything beyond an impartial psychiatrist. You don't call a doctor "pushing an agenda" when he advocates chemotherapy for your anal cancer, because chemotherapy is the universally accepted standard of care for that cancer. Similarly, you don't call a psychiatrist "pushing an agenda" when he advocates sexual transition for a youth suffering from clear gender dysphoria, because sexual transition is the universally accepted standard of care for that problem.

    In fact, you'd have to hunt for a while to find a psychiatrist who would respond differently, because, as said, this is the universally accepted standard of care for the problem. There's good reason for this as well - there is nothing else. There is no other therapy that has demonstrated itself to work. There is no therapy available to change a person's gender identity. There's the work of Dr. Nicolosi, but it's been demonstrated quite thoroughly not to work. And given recent developments in neuroscience, there's reason to believe that the reason that can't work is that gender identity is hardwired into your brain. What reason do you have to believe that Wells is pushing an agenda, rather than simply applying the current standard of care in psychiatry to the given problem of gender dysphoria?
     
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    no, weak will is what causes suicide. Everyone is a teenager who struggles with self identity. Gays/lesbians aren't the only ones that feel different.
     
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    No, but they are among the most marginalized, and one of the last groups it's still "acceptable" to take a shot at. As a result, the suicide rate among LGBT teens is upwards of four times as high as among straight teens, making it the third-highest cause of death for the demographic. Of course, you know this already (or at least, I've explained it to you multiple times), so this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from your end is completely unacceptable.
     
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    Look, I have no problem with an adult doing any kind of therapy he wants. I have issues with forcing a treatment on kids as this might not be something the kid wants, and I personally think that especially if the therapy involves psychodrugs, we have a major problem as this might cause more harm than good. If the kid is otherwise healthy and doesn't seem troubled by his gayness, then I think it would do more harm than good to try to force a change -- it's more or less saying we don't accept you. How is that helping the kid? It don't, and I think it will cause more problems later. I have learning problems, but the thing is that it made me feel worse to have everybody trying to get to the bottom of my "problems" in the sense of "what's wrong with you" being interpreted by me as "I'm just screwed up" -- and I think I still have a bit of issues with that stuff. Telling a kid that his family rejects something about him isn't kindness, and unless it's a serious problem that is bothering the child himself, we're playing with fire.
     
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    BS... the last group it's ok to take a shot at are gingers....

    Is there a "national kick a f-ag day"? what would your outrage be if there were?

    you act like teens haven't committed suicide EVER or something. Weak-willed teens have ALWAYS existed
     

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