Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Margot2

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    Elijah is a person to himself, Jesus Christ is the God of Elijah who immortalized Elijah.
    Jesus Christ is not just a son of God, he is the Son of God.
    There is Only One God and that is Jesus Christ.
    Matthew 16:13 -20
    13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

    14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

    16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
     
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    If you don't already know better, the meaning of "Son of Man" throws a monkey wrench into your belief system, the same way correct translations do such as "And then began men to call themselves Jehova (not "And then began men to call upon the name of the Lord") and [when Eve gave birth] "I have gotten a man, even Jehova" (not "I have gotten a man from the Lord").

    Jesus is symbolically the prodigal Son of God the Creator, but Christ is the ascending evolutionary son of man on the return path back to God (the Father). Also, contrary to theology, J.C. was thus not equal to God during manifestation outside of the Godhead, although, like all of us, a piece of God existed within him. Furthermore, as long as he remains at the right hand of God, he is not God, although you could argue that he is as much of a god as any of the other members of Elohim that rate as part of the Logos.
     
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    Archaeology hoaxes.. fake icons and relics...

    And of course, every single last creo that we have ever heard say anything on the subject of
    creationism vs science is a liar They have no argument that is not a falsehood.

    i never cease to wonder how they do it, utterly free of any tinge of conscience.
     
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    You dont even make sense. The would not be searching if they had found it.
    But, fact is they have not found it. You are speaking falsehoods every time you say they have found it.

    Your own source you cite says they have not found it.
     
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    Archeology should be separate from religion and politics............
     
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    In general it like other science is, but so often our best institutions are turned to base and ignoble purposes.
     
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    The reference to man means that they are creation of God and the use of the capital word Man mean one special man among the many men and saying that Jesus Christ is the Son of Man means that he is the One above all other men. When Eve gave birth or starting to have children her children where sons and daughters of men not Son of Man. The mythologies of the Greeks, Romans and Vikings and others in a way is related to the concept that men can be gods. And the Bible did mention something in that effect:

    Genesis 6
    And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

    2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

    3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

    4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


    This explain the origin of Greek, Romans, Vikings and other religion of the existence of gods and goddesses.

    For many years, God have spoken through the prophets and for many years very few listen even His own chosen people have not listen until finally the only way to deliver the message is by Himself so He became flesh and blood to dwell among us, be with us, to communicate with us, and die for us as Jesus Christ.

    That is why Jesus ask his Peter who he thinks he is because Jesus know that the people have all kinds of wrong impression as to who he really is they think he is Elijah or John the Baptist.

    Matthew 16;
    13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

    14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

    15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.


    17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


    The prodigal son would be Adam and the only way to redeem man's spirit back to God is by God only not the prophets not the priest, no man can except God.
    The discussion on the acceptance and recognition of Jesus is God is mainly base on understanding the Almighty power of God Luke 1: "for nothing is impossible with God"
    That is why God in flesh and blood explain Himself and reveal Himself the way man could understand and with man's free will God let them decide.
     
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    I agree, they have not found it yet but they have pin pointed the exact location base on the Bible. If Bible archaeologist are fraud then how do we reconcile all the other many establish historicity of the Bible that none Biblical archaeologist confirm it's consistency such as the wars fought between the Hebrews of Joshua with the many tribes such as the Amorites, Jebusites, Philistines, Babylonians, Assyrians, Macedonians and Persians and events and history of Israel?

    In fact thanks to the Bible and Christianity modern civilization such as science, philosophy, medicine and law and order prosper all aim to expand and make this universe a better place because that is what God wants us to do.
    Genesis 1
    27 So God created human beings[c] in his own image.
    In the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.
    28 Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.”


    This is why the Christian church is a strong supporter of science.
     
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    The Bible doesn't give an exact location for Sodom and Gomorrah........

    As for the Amorites, Jebusites, Philistines, Babylonians, Assyrians, Macedonians and Persians .. There are other sources for their existence.
     
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    You are supposed to show where you get your cut n' paste, not present it as if it is your own words.
     
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    Why does it seem, like JC and His crew, merely wasted their time even after two thousand years of Religion?
     
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    Oh, I dont know. What do you think he was trying to accomplish?
     
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    I was under the impression a, Heaven on Earth, would have been a "worthwhile" goal; after all, only socialism requires free social morals because capitalism only requires capital morals for a price.
     
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    Whoever exactly JC was, I've an idea none of this has anything to do with what he had in mind.
     
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    Why have morals?
     
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    Not the exact location yes, the Bible provide an event that scientist are trying to learn it's reality that is why they turn to the Bible and in doing so they have found more things other than what the Bible have said that they could not have found with out the Bible.

    Yes, and this proof the historicity of the Bible.
     
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    Sorry it doesn't prove any of the epic stories... For instance.. Joshua's wars.. were skirmishes..
     
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    Not my words but the Bible; Matthew 16, Luke 1 and Genesis 6
    Cut and paste from the Bible
     
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    Nope, it does not. Not even close to explaining nothing.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Good. It's not there then.
     
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    Why not?
     
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    You just said,
    Now 9 posts later,
    And you say you state things clearly?
     
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    Funny, truth is now considered lying to some.
     
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