That's why I don't really care about racists. Racists are always eventually their own worst enemies...
I'm an egalitarean. I believe inequality is wrong when that inequality is a result of discrimination regardless of the race and gender being discriminated against. You only care about percieved inequalities when they effect people you care about. If discrimination effects a race you don't like, you think that discrimination is great, and you insinuate that I'm the racist???
Even your username has racist connotations superbadbrutha. Imagine if my username where something equivelent like, superbadwhitepowerman. I probably wouldn't even be allowed to make a single post before I was banned
Why couldn't a white man use the handle "Superbadbrutha"? - - - Updated - - - You can't show me any discrimination against white men, hell even AA benefits you more than it does me.
How do you know I support it? - - - Updated - - - Keep telling yourself that, one day you might actually believe it.
Anyone could use the username, 'superbadbrutha,' because African American racism is politically correct. On the other hand, white racism is not politically correct. Therefore, someone using a username like, 'superbadwhitepowerman' would be banned right away. How does AA benefit white men more than it benefits African American men??? That's ridiculous!!! - - - Updated - - - Boooyaaa!!!!
East Asians have the highest motivation which translates into higher IQ scores (not intelligence) and the highest college attendance. What might appear "obvious" may not represent ract. For thousands of years people believed the sun orbited the earth because it was obvious. It "rose in the east and set in the west" so obviously the sun was orbiting the earth. So while for some it may seem obvious that Affirmative Action results in the denial of educational or economic opportunity the facts disprove their "obvious" conclusion. Statistically there is no evidence whatsoever that "whites" are discriminated against in either education or economic opportunity as all of the factual evidence established just the opposite. People today need to stop believing that the "sun orbits the earth" because it is "obvious" to them that it does. No White or East Asian is being denied a college education in the United States and they occupy the vast majority of "seats" in our colleges and universities. When it comes to "employment" the official unemployment rates for Blacks has always been significantly higher than for Whites. When addressing "official unemployment rates" this refers to individuals that have a work history, are qualified for employment, and are actively searching for employment and clearly there is discrimination against Blacks, not Whites, when it comes the economic opportunity in America. All of the above claims are based upon invidious racial prejudice because the FACTS clearly contradict the opinions expressed. Only individual prejudice can lead a person to make false statements that the facts clearly disprove.
I refuted this garbage claim the last time when I brought up forward and backward digit span results: The Black and White gap for reciting numbers forward is smaller than the gap for repeating numbers backward. This test weeds out motivation as a causative factor as Blacks would be just as motivated to recall numbers backward as forward. Likewise, East Asians score significantly higher on reaction time tests involving arithmetic ability than Whites than Blacks. There is no reason to assume White children would be less motivated to perform mental calculations in the US and UK than East Asian students in Japan, US and UK, etc. http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf Btw, how would you prove East Asian have the highest motivation? Please don't say 'IQ tests' as that's circular reasoning. It's a fact a White or East Asian is adversely affected by AA when a less qualified Black or Hispanic candidate is given the position or acceptance instead based off AA. That doesn't change the above fact. Affirmative Action simply doesn't discriminate against higher IQ Whites and East Asians *enough* to *fully* manipulate rates of college attendance, etc., to reflect the racial demographics of the US. Some discrimination is still discrimination. Yes, actually, they have been. There have been quite a few lawsuits of White firefighters and college applicants against employers and universities for discriminating against them in hiring/accepting less qualified Blacks and Hispanics. Just like you fled the race and IQ thread after your arguments were refuted. You imagine your facts aren't refuted here and ignore a clinical take down of your arguments. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=317838&page=9 My responses on page 10: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=317838&page=10
Hmmm, I didn't think my user name was "Superbadblackpowerbrutha". Now why couldn't a white man's user name be "Superbadbrutha"? Let me show you how the game is played (which I know you already know). You have 5-10% of Gov't contracts set-aside for minorities. Who are minorities? Folks of color, women, etc. Do you have to be licensed to be an electrical contractor, plumbing contractor, HVAC contractor, etc.? No, you don't. You only have to hire one licensed trade person and their license covers everyone that works for that company. Now this is how the game is done. The husband holds the license, but his wife opens the company. Now she is eligible for the minority contracts, but we all know the husband is the one who is actually running the company. Bingo he bids for the regular contracts and he also gets his hands in on the minority contracts. One of the oldest games that is played in the book. That is just one small example of how white males take advantage of the program.
I'm not really going to go searching for it, however you only have to scroll back a few pages to see you supporting it. But I don't think I have to actually show you where you supported it. Either you do or you don't. You can say, "No I don't support it," or "I changed my mind, I'm against it." Or you could say, "I like it, Iove it, I want more of it." I could understand going and looking for a statement if you were disagreeing with me, but you're not. So I'm curious, what would be gained by me finding a statement to confirm something that you are not even challenging?
Certain aspects of it I do support and some of it I don't for the simple fact that I don't think it helps those of whom it was designed to help.
You might get something out of this then. Part 2: Affirmative action doesn’t work. It never did. It’s time for a new solution
I think it is like so many other programs in this country it needs to be adjusted to catch up with the times. I read many attacks on so-called Liberal Programs, but lets look at Conservatives what they hell have they done to level the playing field. I will tell you, nothing.
You can't level the playing field between two groups of people with significant gaps in IQ anymore than you can level the playing field in iron-grid football between males and females. The inherent differences in mental ability between Whites and Blacks are too large to overcome.
Well that article was written by one of you guys, not by a conservative. I wouldn't bother offering a link to you written by a conservative because you would dismiss it out of hand. Likewise Conservative vs Liberal programs. Republicans tried to get Enterprise Zones through for years, but they were strongly opposed by liberals. Now, President Obama has this great idea, Promise Zones, which are basically repackaged Enterprise Zones. Maybe they have a chance now that Obama is behind it. The only way Conservative programs that deal with economic and social problems have a chance is if they are repackaged in such a way as to fool liberals into thinking it's their idea. I hope President Obama will suddenly think up the idea of school vouchers. That would help a lot of poor kids trapped in crappy schools. As far as affirmative action goes, I would love to hear your ideas on updating it to catch up with the times.
One of who guys? I didn't say it was written by a conservative. Why not, if it makes sense I would. The conservative problem is they give alot of lip service about what they were going to propose or thought about proposing. Take your ideas to the American folks One of your big problems also is the American people see you as working for big business and idustry and not the individual US citizen. One of the changes that should take place is probably more about economics in some areas more so than color, because over the last 20yrs has it really helped the folks whom it was designed to?
No... they didn't just give lip service. Republicans have been trying to push through enterprise zones and vouchers for decades. Although the vouchers have been given more priority the past few years. Unfortunately, taking our ideas to the people is limited by having to use the filter of a media that is hostile to our ideas. So it's very slow going. I would argue that yes, Affirmative Action has helped exactly who it was designed to help, the political class. But the idea you mentioned, about basing on economics is an idea that has been mentioned before. I think it would probably be more fair if it was based on family income rather than melanin content or your surname.
