Why I've given serious thought to leaving the country (Arizona Discrimination Bill)

The State of Arizona is last (Behind MISSISSIPPI) in Education. Illegal Immigrates are flowing over the border like an overflown bathtub. The water taste like spit. The only companies hiring are Mcdonalds and Burger King, but yet, our elected officials in Phoenix put forth a bill, not to combat any of these issues, but to make sure people can discriminate against other people. WHAT IN THE ENTIRE HELL is wrong with these people? Its so bad its almost comical. I don't know what else to say.

 

Well sir, your wrong. Arizona has put out two bills concerning the vast amount of illegals coming into this state. Both times we were sued by the Obama administration to stop them. One was to check for citizenship of anyone breaking the law and turning them over to ICE if they couldn't prove citizenship. The other would punish employers for knowingly hiring illegals. You sir being from Arizona should know that.

 

Have you considered moving to another state, rather then leaving the country? I'm sure that there are states that don't have as bad an illegal imigrant problem as well as less religous freedom.

 

It's also not true that we aren't doing anything to attract business.


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This plant will pay workers about $50,000.00 a year.

 

It's bad enough to have people from other states bad mouth Arizonians when they don't know what they're talking about. It's another to have an Arizonian doing it.

 

SB 1070 was not a solution. It was discrimination. They weren't pulling over Asians, White people or black people. They were targeting Hispanic looking people, which is illegal. Thats why it was struck down.

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I go to the University of Arizona, and I'm considered a resident of the state. I'm basically stuck until I graduate. Sucks.

 

Its not that they don't try to attract employers. The most backwards state in the Union trys to attract employers. Its the fact that nonsense Legislation continues to get pushed through.

 

Yeah, I guess you are in a tough spot. If you are passionate enough about getting out of there, you can always transfer to another school. Credits from a good school like U. of Arz should transfer over so you probably won't be set back much.

 

They puled over everyone breaking the law. Many checked were Hispanics, if they met certain criteria that is common with illegals, like no driver's license, no insurance or registration, expired plates. This is common since they are illegal, they can't get most of these things.Now since we are right on the Mexican border, who do you think would be the most people illegally being here, Chinese?

 

This bill here I will agree with you. I hope the Governor doesn't sign it. But I have had had enough of this gay stuff pushed on us to last a life time.

 

Well, I encourage you to leave just as soon as you can. The last thing American needs are people who hate this country hanging around and whining about not getting their own way on everything under the sun. Take some more of your persuasion with you when you go, please. Things are only going to get tougher in the future, and people like yourself will only constantly snivel and annoy loyal Americans. If you're in Arizona, your just minutes from leaving us; head for Mexico, it's a lot freer than this oppressive hellhole. You'll be able to do anything you want there ...

 

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Allowing businesses to not serve gays and not post that they don't serve gays has not one thing to do with creating jobs or illegal immigration. Arizona just wants to be the Alabama of the 21st century. Maybe crazy Jan Brewer will have to smarts to veto this foolishness.

 

Oh please. Conservatives threaten us with Succession, or a Civil War everytime they lose an election. The "leaving the country" bit is my weird version of sarcasm.

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She vetoed a similar bill last year. I think she has enough sense to veto this nonsense, but who knows. Shes not running for reelection.

 

So? Take some right wingers with you; they're another club of whiners and snivelers always talking about leaving.

 

Now if I were an officer and I saw a car that had one of the things wrong that I mentioned and it had an Hispanic driver and he didn't speak English, do you think it is wrong to ask for proof of citizenship? Now mind you, not speaking English or being Hispanic wasn't enough to pull that car over. It also had to meet one or more of those other criterias I mentioned. Still they considered it racist.

 

Because race can't be a basis for deciding who, or who not to pull over, regardless of any other circumstances. I know it would be easier to make Hispanics wear there IDs or whatever around their necks, but its illegal, and for good case.

 

Did I not say I was against this anti gay bill? I am strictly against allowing citizenship for illegal parents.

 

Wow Liberal. Did you just complain about illegal immigration, only to further complain about Arizona trying to address the issue? Furthermore, Arizona's attempted law went largely nuked by the SCOTUS(hey, that's better than the Pres using the U.N big weapons if needed).

And how is it "discrimination", when the illegal immigrants are largely from the Mexican, Caribbean areas? So, how does one go about actually finding out if a person is an illegal immigrant or not? Mexico and Canada are our only bordering States. And Obviously, the problem doesn't exist in Canada.

If you're so "concerned" about this form of "discrimination", then maybe you should assist the Mexicans to reviving their country. Maybe then, less Mexicans will come over illegally, and there won't be a need for a prominent, national program to address the issue.

We could keep taxes lower, instead of raising them(the Corporate Tax is the highest tax rate in the developed world), thereby helping to curb inflation and making it possible to sell American Goods, with American Workers at a fair price.

 

Heres a tip. Calling somebody a "Liberal" doesn't enhance your argument.
Law Enforcement can't enact policies directed at a group of people. Thats why SB 1070 was struck down.
I agree, the problem is in Mexico, which is why I'm typically anti-immigration in the first place.

 

They can't and didn't pull over Hispanics just because of race. They pulled them over because they broke the law. They were either speeding, driving reckless, had a light out, expired plates or some other infraction. Then they would ask for driver's license and registration. If they didn't have that, it was reason enough to ask for proof of citizenship. Especially if they couldn't speak English.

 

if your looking to go fishing do you go into a desert No you go where the fish are
If you have an illegal immigration problem and 95% of illegal aliens are Latino you expect then for every Latino pulled over and checked for legal status they also need to do pull over an equal amount of every other ethnic group do you know how stupid that sounds all for being PC. I guess being PC requires you to adopt a vast amount of stupidity

 

The thing is, there are certain things I mentioned several times that would give officers suspicion to think a person was an illegal. They had to meet one or more of those criterias before officers could ask for proof of citizenship. Just being or speaking Hispanic wasn't reason enough. Sure there were plenty of Hispanics stopped. We have a lot in this state. Along with a lot of illegals. The government wasn't doing nearly enough to stop it.

 

If I am not mistaken though, they were pulling people over with no violations other than the fact that they were hispanic. The law, as far as I can recall, WAS being used for racial profiling.

Now if you want to make a case that racial profiling is a legitimate tool for law enforcement, thats another story.

 

It doesn't matter to liberals they abandon all resemblance of logic and common sense. they see everything along the lines of color was he black brown red yellow or white and if you don't have an equal amount of black brown red yellow or white then it must be racist and they will ignore all other factors involved

For example why is it most basket ball teams are disproportionately Black? is it because or discrimination against all other ethnic groups? Liberals will say because it just happens that Blacks are very good at the game of basket ball. which is fine and the way it supposed to be you build a team around talent not the race of the person. But when the shoe is on the other foot and a minority is disproportionately to many or to few which liberals think is an injustice, and it helps their agenda of portraying victimhood it is all about race and never about other factors

 

Taxcutter says:
Think about Illinois. Not only can they not attract new employers, old ones are flying out like bats out of hell.