Ten year old suspended from public school for making gun sign

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

It's bad enough that we don't arm our school children to protect them from mass shootings, but this is ridiculous. Obama's cronies at work.

 

Blaming Obama. Ok then.

Just curious, are you saying its ok for people to pretend to shoot other people with their fingers? What about a Muslim, "pretending" to hijack a plane? That ok too? Of course it isnt.

 

This PC gun (*)(*)(*)(*) is absurd. The whole point is indoctrination. They want to make children in public schools so afraid of anything resembling a gun that when they grow up they will never own one and when that happens it will be easy to get rid of our 2nd amendment. I can't believe that everyone doesn't see the purpose of this.

 

WTHELL??! This is a 10 YR OLD BOY! He's in school, goofing off w/his friends w/his HAND....... God Almighty........ can't believe this stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)..... all this hysteria over a 10 yr old hand shaped like a 'big dangerous gun'.........

All the teacher had to do was tell the kid to stop goofing off and let it go. But NO, the liberals just love to suspend kids for no decent reason...

And are you talking about Muslim adults or Muslim kids pretending to hijack a plane?

 

I think you're right. I wish I could remember his name, but there was some Congressman who heard about the 8-9 yr old boy who chewed his poptart into a 'scary gun' and was suspended. He had said this is downright ridiculous and he was going to put a stop to it.... I hope he keeps his word.......something needs to be done about these hysterical, paranoid teachers and these nuts are in charge of the kids.....

 

If I were the parent, I'd pull the kid out of school and home school him. That way the kid can do whatever he wants in the privacy of his home.

 

Government schools are a joke. You'd have to be stupid or poor to send your kids to one. Unfortunately, scumbags like Bill De Blasio are intent on keeping poor people trapped in these failed, totalitarian institutions. Such a shame.

 

Yes, it is. And what a stinking shame that these so-called 'adult' teachers are terrified of a boy's hand shaped like a gun, a poptart shaped like a gun, a kid drawing a pic of a gun.........

Hollywood liberals produces all kinds of violent, bloody shows w/guns that the kids see, then when a 10 yr old goofs around w/his hand shaped like a gun, another liberal goes hysterical and the kid is suspended...... what a screwed up world the libs have created.

 

certainly not for speeding, or a busted taillight, even though it's blamed on race

 

Completely stupid policy, and suspension. This is the kind of crap we worry about in America today. A kid made his fingers look like a gun.....

(*)(*)(*)(*) these people who dont know where the line between legitimate concern and stupidity lies.

 

only reading the one-sided story, and basing this speculation off of being a 14 year professional in the field.... I think one of two things happened here....



1. 10 y.o. is a major class disruption and this was a way for the teacher to get him out of there for 10 days so she could focus on educating the other 19 kids in class. There are many MANY reasons you can't suspend a pain in the ass disruption and only a few reasons you can.... this seems like one way.... Simply put, teacher worked the rules to her class's advantage.


2. the teacher's hands were tied. Sometimes, school admin wants you to focus on specific behaviors and direct teachers to enforce stupid rules the teachers may not necessarily agree with.

for example.... we got a poorly written "dress code" policy at my district. We were supposed to do a check in 1st period, send violators to the front office for them to call a parent or have the kid fix the problem. But the front office got overwhelmed and began critiquing what we sent up there. If a kid didn't tuck in a shirt, they were violating the rule. But before they got up to the office, they'd tuck their shirt in and then play dumb "I don't know why they sent me up" The teacher would get a chewing out email about it later, and the kid was sent back to class with shirt un tucked, with a crap eating smile on their face and tell us, "they didn't care" Lack of communication, lack of followup, and not liking the rule itself made it a nightmare for teachers so we quit worrying about it. All it did was cut into teaching time, didn't accomplish anything, even undermined our classroom management.

But every 2 months or so, the admin would go nuts and make us start enforcing again, just to have the same result.

if this toy gun issue is an issue to the admin, they could be directing teachers to enforce it, regardless of the circumstance..... I don't agree that the kid should have been suspended for it, but I may or may not pin this on the teacher herself, depending on the rest of the story....


I think a major problem in how people view education is they view admin/school boards who are in charge of developing school-wide policies, as the same as teachers, who only control their room based on what admin/school boards have determined

I, as a teacher, view teachers/admin as two different groups within education where teachers take all the blame when crap hits the fan, like in this story. So unless the teacher worked the rule to her advantage like in hypothetical #1.... I don't pin this on her.... I blame the admin/school board that made up the rule and charged the teacher to enforce.

Even if the teacher did do scenario #1 in order to get rid of a class disruption, I could still support her as she's looking out for the other 19 kids in her room that can't be educated while gun boy is running around a room pretending to shoot kids in the head while she's teaching.

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I'm not allowed to use judgement....

 

I understand. My rant was more aimed at those who write, and implement such policies and not have the forethought to eliminate the foolishness we see in this story.

 

gotcha.... my rant is about the same. I, as a teacher, have zero say in rule creation for the district. My union represents my interests while I'm teaching.... but beyond that.... I can't go to the principal and say "you know what.... I think we should make finger guns a zero-tolerance issue" and make it happen..... yet time and time again, in stories like this.... people blame/lump the teacher who had to enforce whatever stupid rule is in question, with those who made the stupid law in the first place.

 

The OP is baiting you. He is a hardcore Progressive who pretends to be Conservative ( or what he sees as being Conservative) to bait people and troll. Dont buy it.

 

I hear you. You have to enforce whats on the books.

Just so crazy that we as a society have come to the point where we are banning words, and suspending kids for whatever shape they twisted their fingers into. I think it's time someone else takes the mantle of leadership on the world stage...we've gone to crazy land.

 

This is one where I would like the full story. Even in a zero tolerant environment not many teachers would kick out a bewildered student for this unless something else was involved or he was being purposefully disrespectful and testing boundries. If that is the case---then I have much respect for the parent that might be enabling his kid's behavior. Just not much detail to this.

 

Only progressive white kids

 

Not being very PC here but WTF we have raising and enabling a generation of woosies, had the P word but the site x's it out.

 

you don't seem to understand the definition of "zero tolerance" do you? I don't have a choice in deciding to send a kid to the office or not in a zero tolerance issue.


Can I decide to not report a fight? A sexual assault? drugs? murder? (yes, that is a possible reason on the form to get written up in a classroom)

I may think weed should be legal for everyone.... but if a kid has a joint in my class, I have no choice in writing it up under no tolerance. If I willfully choose to ignore it, my teaching certificate is what I risk losing..... So IDC if I support this stupid toy gun policy or not.... if your child is in my class doing this.... I'm not risking my certificate over it.... Jr is going to the office

 

This example of "education" stupidity goes right along with the school leaving a sopping wet girl with nothing on but a swim suit outside in below zero weather during a fire alarm.

IMO "educators" have listened to the radical leftwing professors so long they have been relieved of all common sense and logic.

Hopefully that kid was playing cowboys and muslims!!!!!!

 

This is a true story.

A guy goes to the emergency room with a cap in his thigh. He told police and ER staff that he "shot himself in the leg" because he needed an alibi [about being shot at] to tell his GF because he was out all night. He didnt think the bullet in his thigh was gonna hurt so bad...

I wonder where he got his "gun knowledge"?

 

This kind of thinking is why your kids are doing so poorly.

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You have no idea why they're doing poorly.

 

I can't understand why 100% of the parents are not at the school voicing their opinions...what are they all a bunch of sheep. They're just gonna take whatever the school dishes out???

 

You are a genius and a master at your craft!

LMAO