Senate Democrats Go AWOL

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you will have to PROVE to me that violating any/all Congressional laws counts as a misdemeanor.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or Clinton Violating a UN Arms embargo ion Bosnia?

    But, we are talking about U.S. Law aren't we. Obama took an oath to up hold the law.

    He hasn't done that by violation section 1033 of the NDAA 2014.
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You still don't understand that the President cannot be charged with a crime while in office but he can be impeached for not faithfully executing the law, the very law he passed.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he can only impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors.

    which high crime did he commit? he certainly committed no misdemeanors.
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Breaking the law is a high crime unless you are arguing that he is an emperor.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "breaking the law" is layman's term for "violating the criminal code".

    violating Congressional laws is not the same as violating criminal statutes.

    that's why Obama can tweek provisions of the Affordable Care Act's implementation without being impeached.

    that's why he has discretion with the enforcement of our immigration laws.

    President of the USA has leeway...within reason.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a crime to violate one's oath of office.
     
  8. eleison

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    Only if we had more republicans/independents in congress we can impeach Obama for breaking the laws and for incompetency. Lets see what happens after the midterm elections. Obama is a laughing stock to everyone EXCEPT for the obamabots...

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  9. FreshAir

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    congress has known about this being in the works for longer then 30 days...


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  10. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    As far as I'm concerned, we've returned to the dark ages of Taxation without Representation. A government of the minority is the greatest form of dictatorship.
     
  11. Rainbow Crow

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    Although I'm usually near the front of the anti-Obama mob on here, I personally wouldn't politicize this. It was going to suck whether we traded for the guy or not since the last American prisoner is very symbolic.

    Now that we have him, slap him in the hand for deserting and move on would be ideal I think.
     
  12. AmericanNationalist

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    IMO, that'd be an insult to our soldiers. You're essentially saying that the Oath to defend the Constitution is worthless. You're saying that we're the bad guys. Every soldier who wears that uniform can now question their allegiance, and that of their compatriots.

    Nothing could be more damaging to morale. "Why am I fighting?" would be the first question that pops into my head. What a disappointment America has become.
     
  13. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Hopefully you're overstating it. It certainly does send a mixed message at best. The "no solider left behind" thing probably shouldn't apply to deserters but I can't bring myself to hate Obama for this one.
     
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    That is part of the problem. It is seen if you disagree with his actions you *hate* him and not the actions themselves.
     
  15. Rainbow Crow

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    Well, I do hate him. Just not for this :lol: I'm sure bergdahl got what he deserved after putting himself into the arms of the Taliban.
     
  16. Hoosier8

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    Sure they were, that is why they didn't know. LOL
     
  17. BestViewedWithCable

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    Democrats are too busy looking the other way, and stabbing tax paying Americans in the back
     
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    "GOP Urged White House To 'Do All It Can' To Get Bowe Bergdahl"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/bowe-bergdahl-release_n_5439644.html

    "Some lawmakers who have spoken critically in recent days of the Bergdahl deal had appeared, not too long ago, to have endorsed the concept of a prisoner swap, in which he could be exchanged for Taliban detainees at Guantanamo Bay. "

    Feb. 18, 2014 McCain knew about the arrangement.... how did he learn about this if not from the Administration?
     
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    All of the Guantanamo prisoners should be released since none of them have gone through a trial and we are not at war with any country.

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    He hasn't violated a word of his oath
     
  20. Professor Peabody

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    Sure he has.

    He was obligated by Law (NDAA 2014) to give Congress 30 days notice before releasing anyone from GITMO. He didn't faithfully execute a law he himself signed.
     
  21. Ronstar

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    wait, you mean the same NDAA that allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens without charge or trial?

    the NDAA that everyone says is unConstitutional???

    :cheerleader:
     
  22. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The 2014 NDAA had the provision that Congress must be notified 30 days before any GITMO prisoners are released. Sec. 1033 if you care to look.
     
  23. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what if the deal is time sensitive and may fall apart within 6 days?

    what then does POTUS do?

    what is more important, his Constitutionally mandated responsibilities as Commander-in-Chief, or playing patty cake with Congress?
     
  24. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Where have you been for the last 5 yrs?
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Definitely playing pattycake with Congress is more important. Congress represents We, the People. Obama is NOT the king.
     

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