An administrative law judge has ruled that a Kentucky printers refusal to print gay pride t-shirts constitutes unlawful discrimination, and, by extension, that printers cannot refuse to print materials promoting ideas they disagree with. Hands On Originals is a business that prints custom designs on clothes, accessories and other items like mugs and bottles. According to the ruling, Blaine Adamson, its managing owner, instructed his sales representatives to decline to design, print, or produce orders whenever the requested material was perceived to promote an event or organization that conveys messages that are considered by the sales representative or Mr. Adamson to be inappropriate or inconsistent with Christian beliefs. http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/07/judge-wants-to-force-a-printer-to-make-pro-gay-t-shirts/ this is getting out of hand it is absurd I want you liberals stop and think for one minute before you reply. Should a judge be able to force a T-Shirt printing company that is an avid gun control advocate as a owner print pro gun T-Shirts? or a Muslim run restaurant to serve pork? Where and when does it stop? soon you will have no rights as a business owner to decide who and what business you want to perform. best not to even start a business because you wont be the owner you wont be running it. it will be the government making all the business decisions for you
Doesn't Mr. Adamson have free speech rights under the 1st Amendment? Does he have to show support of homosexual behavior even though it is against his religion? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. I'm surprised that they didn't make Adamson change his name as it is offensive to athiests.
And this is what makes it so hard to trust our courts. Rather than applying the law according the constitution, they go in with an agenda.
If you want to get any responses from "progressives" you can't put such caveats in the OP. "progressives" are not interested in the rule of law, equal rights, or even equal standards. Anything that produces the right results is acceptable to progs - the ends justify the means. progs want to destroy everything and everyone that doesn't fully endorse their agenda. That's why a prog thinks a Christian baker, photographer, printer, or home owner should be forced to serve and bow to anti-Christians, why crosses which are part of a memorial should be removed, why a diner has to remove a sign that has the word "bacon", and why nobody should have to show ID when they vote. A prog will not see any hypocrisy in forcing a Christian printer to print a pro-gay shirt but in supporting a Muslim in not serving pork.
Yes companies cannot discriminate. I would like to ask the bible thumpers if they were treated the same way thy would not like it and probably cry religious freedom - - - Updated - - - Yeah it all liberals that are against equal rights. That why they are losing in court on the marriage issue. The only bigots and racist are republicans period
Bigots and Racist must learn that the religious freedom does not trump other individual rights. I am so sick of peole hiding behind fairy tales to justify being a prick!
I wouldn't care. I'd go somewhere else. But given you're okay with this, I expect you'd think it's fair to force an atheist bookstore owner to sell bibles, or (as TRF mentioned) a Muslim-run restaurant to sell pork. - - - Updated - - - I see, so other's individual rights do trump religious rights though? Interesting paradox you've created.
Bigots, such as those that wish to violate religious freedom because they don't believe in them, are bigots just the same.
the business wasn't discriminating he didn't refuse to do business with the customer because he was gay he refused to print what the customer wanted printed Would it be wrong for a Jewish run business to refuse to print swastikas on T-Shirts for a customer? the government doesn't have any right to tell someone what they can and can not print
I don't think this is properly cast as a 1A violation, because I don't think a business owner needs a reason, religious or otherwise, to refuse anyone's business.
Hyperbole what is the difference of a Christian refusing to indorse Homosexuality or a gun banning advocate refusing to print pro gun message on a shirt?
Get over the persecution complex. He could have just chosen not to print any political material at all and been fine. The problem is that he was only providing the service of printing political material to people he agreed with.
then explain how are they different? both are beliefs one believes homosexuality is wrong and refuses to promote what he feels is wrong same as a gun banning advocate feeling guns are wrong and refuses to promote them. same as if someone asked a Jewish run business to print swastikas on T-Shirts for a customer
Would it be ok if they discriminated because their "religion" forbids interface with blacks or Jews? Quite simply, the best answer is not to discriminate period.
Okay let me explain this again. If you have a business and you offer a product, in some communities it is against the law to choose who you will offer to or not based on who they are. If you offer a product or a service you can't simply close your door to someone. In this case there could be an argument for the business owner but the message they are printing is not something new, they are just printing, what they are printing is not the service. A Muslim store that never offers pork can't be forced to, that would be a different thing. If you can't see the difference then you can't have a discussion.