Will more black people vote for Republicans this year?

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  1. Sgt_McCluskey

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    Will the drop in the percentage of the black vote the democrats receive in the next election be due to the fact that more black people voted for republicans, or does it just mean less people came out to vote?
     
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    Republicans are failing fundamentally on appealing to black voters. If black votes were 25% of the voting electorate then maybe they would have the intellectual honesty to appeal to those constitutes. But there is not so they won't. The Latino vote is now the problem for Republicans. They don't seem to have the intellectual honesty to deal with that either (the Slavic-American population doesn't seem to trigger this argument)...which begs the question, why?
     
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    No one even cares about the black vote anymore. Not only did the black vote relegate themselves to irrelevancy by putting all their eggs in one basket but now the GOP and DNC are working their asses off to court the Hispanic vote since they are now the largest minority in the country and their vote is substantially less polarized. The GOP just doesn't care to waste effort on a lost cause and the DNC takes advantage of the fact that they have the black vote locked up.

    People ask why there isn't more Republican outreach to get black votes and the answer is obvious on its face and has nothing to do with racism. If you are a campaign manager with finite resources and limited time do you spend resources and time on the demographic that votes over 85% for the opposition literally all the time or do you focus on the demographic that you can get 40% or more. That is not to say there shouldn't be any outreach to the black community but no one is going to waste a lot of effort on it. Especially since we have seen in recent years you don't need the black vote to win elections.
     
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    You mean promise them everything as libs have since LBJ then screw them?
     
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    No. Just pretend that you aren't "color blind" and treat them more like ignorant white people than illegal Mexican invaders. :blankstare:
     
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    Majority of blacks will always vote for Democrats, until Republicans stop pandering to their racist base.
     
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    Sep 18, 2014 - Sen. Rand Paul on Thursday blasted his own party for making it tougher for minorities to vote.
     
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    You need a history lesson as to how democrats have treated blacks.
     
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    Got any proof of what you claim? Dems have been pimping blacks for 50 years.You go first.
     
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    THAT would be conservatyives, mainly from the South, today's GOP base Bubs

    Conservatives on the Wrong Side of History on Mandela, Most Other Things


    When has the American right ever—ever—been on the right side of history?

    The answer is almost never.


    ...Do you support the American Revolution? I should hope so. You would not have, however, had you been a conservative in 1785. American Loyalists, perhaps 20 percent of the white population of the day, were devoted to king and crown for mostly the usual reasons: They were older, better established, had more money, were scared of change.


    How about the abolition of slavery? I reckon you’re on board with that. Well, Lord knows you wouldn’t have been if you’d been among the 1860 conservatives who started a war over it (and whose apologists today insist the Civil War was not about slavery).

    In terms of domestic politics, few polemical tasks are easier than demonstrating how wrong conservatism has been about pretty much everything in all of American history. Eradication of child labor? Why, an imposition on business owners to run their factories as they saw fit, you socialist! Giving women the right to vote? Women?! They simply don’t possess the logical faculties to be entrusted with such a responsibility, and anyway where will it end—I suppose you’ll be suggesting that black people get the franchise next? Segregation. Miscegenation laws. Immigration. Civil rights. The environmental movement. Conservatism’s record: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-of-history-on-mandela-most-other-things.html




    Abraham Lincoln Might Have Been a Republican, But He Damn Sure Wasn’t a Conservative

    Lincoln also instituted the first “income tax,” and told the Southern states claiming “states’ rights” when it came to slavery that they were completely full of crap.

    Could you imagine a Republican today creating a tax and telling states that their claim of “states’ rights” on an issue was absurd?

    Abraham Lincoln might have been a Republican, but that was before Republicans became “conservatives.” See, there’s a difference between what Republicans were and what conservatives are. Conservatives have always been conservatives. Decades ago, racist conservatives aligned with the Democratic party. Today these same conservatives call themselves Republicans.


    Anyone who knows anything about history knows that long ago Democrats were the party of racists. But those who are honest about history also know that over time, the political ideology of both parties switched.

    This isn’t hard to prove – just look at reality. What groups align with the fringe of the Republican party? The KKK, neo-Nazis and people who seek to glorify the confederacy. In other words, racists. You don’t see members of the KKK, Nazi groups or confederate sympathizers siding with modern day Democrats. Oh, no – they vote Republican.


    ...
    Nothing about Lincoln made him a conservative. He fought against “states’ rights,” he created a tax, he bucked tradition, he embraced change and he did all of this by using the power of big government.

    http://www.forwardprogressives.com/abraham-lincoln-might-republican-damn-sure-wasnt-conservative/
     
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    proof? look at racial voting stats since 1963.
     
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    The GOP, today's conservative party, is supposed to be a party of personal responsibility, lol


    Segregation. Miscegenation laws. Immigration. Civil rights. The environmental movement. Conservatism’s record: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-of-history-on-mandela-most-other-things.html
     
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    Are democrats some special type of white people? How is publicans in touch with black citizens' concerns, and what are they doing about it...and why do black citizens vote predominately democrat? If this has been happening for many years then why haven't the republicans jumped into the argument years ago to intellectually deliver their point of view? Maybe they have and the black community rejected it? Why?
     
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    A lot of good questions in there. Now you tell me what he dems have done for blacks the last 50 years.
     
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    Black will continue to vote democrat just as Jews will. They will both close their eyes to what is going on wishing for the best, much like anyone does before they are led to the slaughter. Hope can blind you.
     
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    ........does not talk like the slimy dems do per my post. Not surprised you ignore it. It says much about you.
     
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    Yes, he did that a few times. I guarantee you though he is going to spend the vast majority of his time courting the GOP base and also Hispanics. Blacks are not going to change their vote overnight. Maybe in a few years it will be different but in the here and now blacks will vote overwhelmingly Democratic and that isn't going to change.
     
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    This question is an appeal to the constituency. Affirmative action has eased the destructiveness of Jim Crow laws. Or not? Regardless, it's a political appeal that is reflected in elections. If blacks thought that ignoring Jim Crow law history was in their political interests, then would they not have voted that way? Unless you are implying that they are unable to discern from policy, their own interests? That's not what you are implying. What are you implying? That the democrats are SO persuasive that no argument from the republicans can influence what blacks believe about policy? Whom is calling whom a moron in this situation?
     
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    Appealing does not equal producing. What have the dems done for blacks since 1965? Would you like to take a ride though the west and south sides of my town Chicago and see the squalor that has been there since then?
     
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    Wow you have quotes? How hard would it be for me to get some quotes from let's say Rushblo and Beckie? lol

    There IS a reason 90%+ of blacks don't vote the GOP. You are a prime example,. IMHO...
     
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    Sure. Go ahead and enumerate this squalor and see if we can link this to democratic policy together.

    What are the rates of poverty (squalor) in Chicago, during the 20th century? Then we can compare that to the current policies and the 21st centuries.
     
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    I put up racist quotes form your party leaders over the years. Got any from GOP reps/leaders? And you're diversion only makes my point about the racists who defend dems. :wink:
     
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    Or just look to red states? You know since FEDERAL POLICY from conservatives/GOP have damaged ALL the botom 90% + of US the last 30+ years of Reaganomics!

    Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

    In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/...ates-are-scandinavia-red-states-are-guatemala


    I'M SHOCKED YOU DIDN'T BRING UP DETROIT, THE CITY HURT HARD NY CONS "FREE TRADE" POLICIES
     
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    Hmm. Dems have run Chicago for 60 years now. Dem POTUS have made many promises to blacks also. You want to excuse dems screwing black people? How sad. :thumbsdown:
     
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    Jesse Jackson is a party leader? lol

    Ralph Nader?

    Mayor Berry?

    An abortionist? Wright?


    lol
     

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