Netanyahu offers 'no concrete action plan' on Iran: senior U.S. official

That's exactly what you non-responsive response is.

 

Bibi stays in power by expanding settlements and keeping Israelis fear factor high.

He doesn't care about Israel or Iran.. He wants to be re elected.. He's job scared.

 

I already told you what you fallacy is. All I have done is point your fallacy and all of a sudden you are trying to demonize me by making false claims about me saying "you hate Israel".

Clearly the issue is not being ignored. Your inference suggesting it is being ignored is fallacy and you failed to even answer my previous question in relation to this fallacy. All you could done so far is to demonize by spouting some unsupported nonsense about hating Israel ??

So once again, how can you claim the issue of "nukes" is being ignored when UK, US, China, Russia, France and Germany are meeting with Iran over the issue of nukes as we speak ?

 

Riiiiiight. Every nation around Israel just loves Israel. What's to fear?

Yeah I'm sure a guy like Bibi could never find work.

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You gave me your POV as I did mine.

I disagree. Fours years and no plan=ignored.

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When you google "Clinton Bastin, lead consultant to the IAEA" than you find numerous sources all saying he is a lead consultant of the IAEA. That he worked for the US dept of Energy does not exclude that he also was a consultant of the IAEA. I doubt the experts of the IAEA are full time employed.

When you know who Bastin is, than you know he wrote a letter, saying “Sure, Iran could divert a few tons of 3.5% or a ton of 20% enriched uranium hexaflouride gas for enrichment to 90+%. But what then? No one has ever made a nuclear weapon from gas.”. And that contradicts the bomb picture Bibi drew. Rather plane and simple.

Bastin's reputation on this matter is sky high. You are in no position to challenge or question him one bit on this matter. What he says completely contradicts Bibi, and affirms what the Mossad said. That makes Netanyahu a liar. And that is all on topic. That you claim it's debunked is also not true. A liar can not debunk his own opinion.

 

Like I said, it was a minor uprising - otherwise it would have actually toppled the regime. It didn't because it wasn't strong enough. The 1979 Revolution was legit because it brought out change.

 

Just because an issue was not being actively addressed for four years in the past does not mean it is not being actively addressed now?

This is your fallacy.

The issue of nukes is being actively addressed right now. The support for my claim is that UK, US, China, Russia, France and Germany are meeting with Iran over the "nukes" issue right now.

 

That happy revolution would also have failed if the USA had managed a decent President and not Obama Lite in the form of Carter.

 

Thank you! We agree! Everyone knew the last four years Iran was enriching uranium and didn't give a damn until Israel started chirping about bombing them over the last 9 months. Now all of a sudden, everyone 'cares'.

 

Strategy if a responsible leader? Is that what you call giving into anything the other side wants just so your baby Obama can claim a deal, one which even his own party says is doomed to failure?

History teaches that appeasement never works yet here goes Obama trying to appease. What a fool.

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And Obama has never lied on the subject? Proof please.

 

I show prove for things I claim, exclusively. Not for questions some random person asks me.
My argument that netanyahu is a liar on this subject, stands.

 

Bastin is not and never was a lead consultant for the IAEA. The sites you're finding that on - are either antisemitic or antiwar sites. If you're comfortable maintaining and promoting that lie - there is little left to discuss.

 

Maybe if the US could just talk Iran into not blaming us if Israel attacks them. Could that be Obama's idea here?

 

Bastin's reputation stands untouched. What he wrote in his letter, remains.
The letter still contradicts bibi, and is according to the opinion of the Mossad.
Hence Bibi is a liar.

There is indeed no discussion.
If Bastin is or is not a lead consultant of the IAEA is actually irrelevant.
Even more so... it looks like you're just pulling out your race card out of your ass.
How about you call Bastin an anti-semite?

 

Israel has been chirping about bombing Iran for many years. Israel did bomb an Iranian nuclear facilities 2 years ago and they bombed nuclear facilities in Syria as well.

Glad that you finally admit that folks care.

Leaders of nations, including Obama, do care which is why there all the major nuclear powers of the world are meeting with Iran in order to try and resolve this issue.

Bibi is speaking out because he does not like where the talks are going and he has every right to do so. I do not blame him as Iran is Israel's enemy and he does not want to see normalized relations with Iran. Especially not with Israel's number 1 ally.

This is a complex issue and as such we should be hearing both sides. Clearly Bibi has a conflict of interest. This does not mean that his opinion should not be valued but, at the same time is should not be taken as the Gods only truth either.

One thing about Bibi's speech that was absolute BS was his claim that Iran somehow controls what Syria does. This is absolute unadulterated nonsense but of course the average American is ignorant of the geopolitical situation in the Middle East. Syria and Iran have been allies for a long long time. Syria supported Iran during the Iran-Iraq war and gave Iran missile technology. Neither controls the other but both support each other.

Bibi's yapping on about terrorism was also a bit of a joke. Israel is involved in terrorism and Obama has been supporting known terrorists in Syria including Al Qaeda and Al Nusra.

Bibi's wanting to attach sanctions to terrorism is a Joke. We are talking nukes here, that is a different issue.

Both Syria and Iran want ISIS gone. These two countries have both the capability and the desire to remove ISIS. If the US would support Syria/Iran involvement ISIS would be gone in short order but the US does not want to do what is required.

Bottom line is that attaching "support for terrorism" and similar platitudes to these talks as Bibi was suggesting is a disingenuous plea to ignorance.

 

Then why all of a sudden is the rest of the world finally becoming concerned at this time? They have been enriching for four years and not a peep out of anyone until lately. And Obama threatens to blow Israeli planes out of the sky if they attack Iran? What the hell is that? It seems like the world is more concerned with Israel bombing than Iran having a nuke.

 

Did you have a valid source for the claim that Obama threatened to "blow Israeli planes out of the sky" ?

A war between Iran and Israel would definitely not be good. Why ? Because Israel has nukes !

 

I have yet to hear him deny it.

Why would Israel need to nuke Iran?

 

Do you really expect a President to waste his time denying every wing nut charge that gets posted on internet sites ?

I have yet to hear Bibi deny it ?

 

So he did say it. Thanks.

What does Bibi have to deny?

 

Now you are making things up again !

That he would use nukes.

 

Sigh - what he said in his speech appears in the report. End of story.

I asked you to provide just ONE link to a mainstream media outlet that carried that story. You could not.

I'm not playing any "race card," the story ONLY appears on antiwar and antisemitic sites. That's just a fact. It's bogus. Do you not think NBC, CBS or at least MSNBC would have run it had it been legit?

Never mind - save your response for someone who wants to mud wrestle with you. I do not.

 

Got all kinds of links about what Obama said...................
http://tinyurl.com/o7dx9je

Care to link me to what you claim Bibi said? Now you are making things up again !

 

LOL did I not use the world "valid" as a descriptive adjective to the word link ? If I forgot please add it.

I did not say that Bibi made any claim. Why are you putting words in my mouth .... again !

 

I gave you a link to all links on the subject. So which one were not 'valid'?

Then why bring it up?