Seriously...What would it take for a GOD to prove itself?

Well that is it.

A FACT....is known as a FACT....because actual TANGIBLE OR MATHEMATICAL PROOF EXISTS as a PROOF!!

A TRUTH.....being subjective has no such Tangible Proof.

I really don't understand why some members have such a difficult time with this?

AboveAlpha

 

OK.....Looking at it this way.....NASA sends Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to the Moon where they land on the Lunar Surface and set up an American Flag and leave a Plaque.

While still on the ladder, Armstrong uncovered a plaque mounted on the LM Descent Stage bearing two drawings of Earth (of the Western and Eastern Hemispheres), an inscription, and signatures of the astronauts and President Nixon. The inscription read:

Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon, July 1969 A.D. We came in peace for all mankind.


Now the landing upon the Lunar Surface and the walking on the Moon by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin is a FACT.

What the plaque states is a TRUTH.

The words on this plaque being....Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon, July 1969 A.D. We came in peace for all mankind.....is a FACT.

Thus this shows how the words written on the plaque being.....Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon, July 1969 A.D. We came in peace for all mankind.....is a FACT yet what the words and intent of the words on the plaque are a SUBJECTIVE TRUTH.

AboveAlpha

 

Ok. I hear what you're saying. Thanks for explaining that to me.

 

Your welcome.

Thank you for such outstanding courtesy.

AboveAlpha

 

Yeah....one thing I can tell a TRUE BELIEVER RIGHT NOW!!!

When it comes to CELESTIAL MECHANICS....IF THERE IS A GOD.....THAT GOD DOES NOT INVOLVE ITSEF!!

AvoveAlpha...p.s.....Our Universe is FINITE....not Infinite.....but the known sizem known approx. amount of LIFE CAPABLE PLANETARY SYSTEMS around other stars......and th known approx. number of INTELLIGENT CIVILIZATIONS EXISTING IN THE UNIVERSE.....based upon CALCULATIONS THAT SHOW US IT IS A STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY FOR EARTH TO BE THE HOME OF THE ONLY INTELLGENT SACE FARING IFE FORMS IN THE UNIVERSE.......

.........as any calculation that has a result that is greater in improbability of 1 in 10^150th is considered a STATISTICAL POSSIBILITY......and because we already KNOW more than one forms of Intelligent Life Exist in our Universe the Calculations bring us to not only a good possibility to A COMPLETE LIKELYHOOD that the Intelligent Space Faring Life Forms on Earth......Humans.....Chimps, Dogs.......are DWARFED IN NUMBERS OF OTHER SPACE FARING LIFE FORMS IN OUR UNIVERSE!!!

AboveAlpha

 

What is the approximate size of the universe?

 

My impression is that G-d/HaShem ...… makes it appear as if He/She is not involved in world affairs........ but....... I hereby challenge you to do what I did back in 1990........ I was really angry and disappointed with Rabbi Yeshua/ Jesus/ Yesh..... at the time...… so I stuck my right hand up in the air....... and I challenged H-m to take me by the right hand...… as H- claimed to have done for Gentile King Cyrus.......

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+45&version=KJ21


Isaiah 45 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

45 “Thus saith the Lord to His anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have held to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings to open before him the twoleaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut:


.........… I asked for a lot of things at that time...… and 25 years later......… virtually everything that I asked for has either happened........ or seems to be in the works.......

Within five years..... you will be unable to deny that you ..... like myself...… have the powerful feeling that the level of guidance......… of some sort of higher life form...… in your life took a surge...… within days or weeks from your asking for something along this line.......... (posts #1 and #4 explain more about my circumstances at the time):
http://tate4centralnova.yuku.com/topic/383/My-correspondence-with-Rabbi

 

The same has happened to me. Everything I've asked for, I've gotten.

However, I'm interested in what you've asked for.

 

Taking into account Dark Energy driven Universal Expansion....our Universe is approx. 62 Billion Light Years in Diameter.

AboveAlpha

 

I would like to explain to you my thinking upon this subject.

Every now and then I PRAY.

I am not Praying to some kind of GOD as is advertized in the Bible, Torak or Koran....but rather I PRAY that conditions will be right for good things would happen for those who need them.

I don't EVER ASK OR PRAY FOR ANYTHING FOR MYSELF!!!

And if this is how an actual existing GOD would benefit a person by how much they believe in such a GOD or rather if it is the person who prays and asks for things and is faithful is the person who s granted such things....I would do this.

I would challenge this GOD to turn itself into Human Form of my physical capability.....SO I COULD KICK IT'S A$$!!!

As any such GOD that opperates that way....NEEDS AN A$$ KICKING!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Mostly…… I asked for wisdom in order to be able to explain to people how the future could be changed for the better. Within four years I was led to an article on central banking policy that is an important part of knowing how a shift over to a truly green and sustainable economy can be accomplished.

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/

 

How do you know that if the observable universe is only 13.8 billion light years? Also, the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light.

Also, Dark Energy is fancy talk for "unknown". We don't fully understand what those unknown elements are or how they interact with the rest of space. We have no idea what sort of physical or non-physical properties they have.

 

Strangely enough………… a powerful case can be presented that here in four dimensional space time is where the action is really at!

This seems to be where the ultimate Creator….. wishes to teach people to become his voice and hands and feet?????!

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

 

Using the Hubble Telescope and Chandler Scope we can use the Doppler shift to determine the OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE is at it's edge from us a distance of about 13.8 Billion Light Years...thus we are looking back in time 13.8 Billion Years when we observe the Edge of the Universe.

However the light be are observing took 13.8 Billion Years to reach us and Dark Energy is not just moving the Galaxies further away from us but as well Dark Energy is EXAPANDING SPACE-TIME thus the acual approx. diameter of the Universe is approx. 62 Billion Light Years.

Dark Energy and Dark Matter comprise 95% of our Universe with only 5% of the Universe consisting of Stars, Planets, Nebula...etc.

Dark Energy and Dark Matter although not 100% Proven are most likely aspects of DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL BLEED OVER into our Universal Reality from other Divergent Universal States of Reality.

AboveAlpha

 

Dennis....Matter and Energy and Frequency could not exist in only 4-D Space-Time.

We are living in an AT MINIMUM 10 or 11-D Space-Time Universal Reality and it could be 26-d or higher.

AboveAlpha

 

Yes…… ever since I read "18 Planes of Existence" I have had somewhat of a leaning toward Bosonic String Theory with its 26 dimensions????

http://www.cs.utah.edu/~spiegel/kabbalah/jkm018.htm
18 Planes of Existence

 

You didn't prove the universe is 62 billion light years in diameter. You just said dark energy is moving the galaxies further away. Even I mentioned that. If the observable universe is only 13.8 billion light years in diameter, how can we get an approximate size on something we haven't seen or understood? You can't develop an approximate diameter without first observing an edge. We haven't observed the edge of the universe. So, perhaps you should reword yourself and say the universe is theoretically 62 billion light years in diameter.

 

Hypnotic regression gives us evidence that a higher power is involved in working out something along the line of "karma."

I can't rule out this being done by an alien civilization but....... if so their technology would certainly seem to be "godlike!"

If past life regression was tapping into some aspect of cryptomnesia (pardon my spelling).... then surely more people would visualize past lives where they had more wealth and influence than Helen Wambach Ph. D. found to be the case?

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1165
Evidence for Reincarnation from Western Medical Research: (Part I) Dr. Wambach&#039s Past Life Regression Studies

 

62 Billion Light Years in Diameter is based upon a calculation of the ever increasing rate of acceleration of Space-Time Expansion.

It is by no means for certain.

But it is a number based upon Logical Calulations.

AboveAlpha

 

Qchan…. what do you personally think of the idea that The Ancient of Days the Father and the Holy Spirit mentored the Word/ Logos/ YHWH on how to plan and work a nearly infinite number of Big Bang and/or Big Expansion type events over eternity in the past……. and then a major Big Bang event 13.72 billion or so years ago………. then the earth formed perhaps 4.5 billion years ago…….. then later a rebellion by Lucifer with one third of the angels……… then a fixing up of the earth and the creation of Adam and Eve?

In my opinion this idea is a big improvement over the young earth concept that apparently even Presidential hopeful Dr. Ben Carson still seems to be rather taken with.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ichard-eby-verifies-old-earth-gap-theory.html
NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.
I was impressed with the explanation given for the fall of Lucifer which would quite possibly fit with an earth that may well be 4.5 billion years old.

Apparently a lot happened between the original creation of the earth and the time when the repairing of the earth was made necessary due to an attempted coup d'etat by Lucifer and the angels who decided to follow him!!

……
http://www.near-death.com/forum/nde/000/91.html

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The NDE of Mellen Benedict takes intelligence/ sentience back pretty much to eternity in the past.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

It took me years after I returned to assimilate any words at all for the void experience. I can tell you this now; the void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is absolute consciousness; much more than even universal intelligence.

 

But this is, by no means, an approximate number.

Some of your questions I will not be able to properly answer, because it makes assumptions of the bible that simply do not exist in the bible.
So, here's my question to you. What makes you think Satan's name is Lucifer?

 

Lucifer is probably only one of his names. It is merely the most well known name due to it being used in the KJV.

The original Hebrew name for him sounded quite different.

 

It is only found once in the KJV. The name "Lucifer" is not used in the original Hebrew or Greek. The name "Lucifer" cannot be found in majority of the popular English translations out there, because the word used means "star of the morning" which is used in multiple instances of the bible. The name "Lucifer" came from the Latin Catholic Vulgate.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

 

God is not recognized by the intellectual part of the human mind but rather is the visitor to the searching soul. One will never experience His love while calculating the the complexities of their own existence.

Through the eyes of man we see nothing except what we wish to see.