Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    OK....you two guy's are KILLING ME!!

    Do you have any idea how low the odd's are that two people who post on the same internet forum and have posted on the same topics ALSO have ACTUALLY been a part of an E.T. Visitation and Experimentation????

    It's like 1 in 10^7th....or 1 in 100,000,000!!!!!

    This is the PROBLEM as far as some people being able to take seriously claims of E.T. Visitation and Experimentation upon HUMANS!!!

    In one other example the number of people claiming to have been visited or abducted by Aliens in an North of Chicago and on the shore of the Lake....would have if such claims were fact mean an Alien Craft would have had to be landing and taking off every 15 minutes for 49 hours straight in a 10 mile by 10 mile in area region!!!!

    This is also why a certain U.S. Government Agency no longer attempts to disprove E.T. and E.T. Visitation as people are doing quite a good enough job all on their own!!!

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    Gathering proof of an extraterrestrial encounter is the last thought on someone's mind when it's actually occurring.

    Usually you just try to avoid accepting the evidence —The photos, gifts, and games they throw at you— so that it doesn't lead to any uncomfortable questions from people later.

    It's only later in life when you miss what you had that you wish you had something to remind you that it was real.
     
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    What kind of physical evidence could you have possibly have had?

    It's not like they tend to leave anything other than a TRACKER which is made up of the same materials and elements found on the Periodic Table except that these pieces of Metal which are nothing special as far as WHAT they are made of....are able to cause the Human Nervous System to grow and attatch nerve fibers to one of these pieces of metal and they give out a Dual Radio Signal as one signal is ULF and the other UHF.

    AboveAlpha
     
  4. wgabrie

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    Well, I could have had a photograph of one of the E.T. when they were a child. Because they were enamored with the carefree life of my childhood and wanted to show me theirs. And they said I could keep it but I didn't accept because I didn't want to weird out my family.

    And then there was the time they offered me a puzzle box. But I didn't accept that either.

    And there was the Biosuit they gave me so I could walk around in the mothership while they were taking me somewhere for the day. They told me to keep it if I ever wanted to come back, but I didn't keep it because I had no plans to go back.
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    Wwwwggggaaaaa........your sliding on me.

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  6. wgabrie

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    Well, that's what I thought too, because a few years after that I got amnesia and couldn't be sure of anything.

    But here's the kicker.

    Before I got amnesia, I gave the biosuit away to someone who wanted it to protect themselves while spraying plants with chemicals. It superficially looked like any one of a dime-a-dozen Yellow Biohazard Suits with built in breath mask. But it was a superior quality one with a special micro filter that is smaller than any size available on Earth.

    After I recovered from my amnesia the person I had given the biosuit to talked to me and they were like: remember that suit you gave me years ago? it was a WONDERFUL suit but it recently developed a split in it. Now I'm looking for a new one and I CAN'T FIND ANOTHER ONE LIKE IT!!! Do you remember where you got it from????

    Not willing to admit to aliens I said I didn't remember where I got it from. He was like: AWW!! :(

    And here's the other interesting part. I heard that sprayers were out spraying some plants near where I had my encounters and they saw a UFO appear and hover there overhead for a while.

    Of course what I know, that no one else does, is that that whole area near the field is under observation from orbit, or at least it was in the 1990s.
     
  7. DennisTate

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    Actually........ what I think Wgabrie is really doing is filling in some gaps for you and I and whoever else will read through this.

    If...… somebody / anybody gets to that place where they have regular out of the body experiences, they will tend to report dealing with one or several groups of life forms there in higher dimensions.

    Some OOBErs deal regularly with deceased humans and on occasion with angels.

    Some out of the body experiencers deal more regularly with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and various angels.

    Some out of the body experiencers, such as Wgabrie report meeting with aliens.

    Some out of the body experiencers, or DMT trippers, report meeting with Zeus, Athena and the gang???!

    I have never had full fledged out of the body experience, I have only read about it, but it seems to me that what Wgabrie states about those aliens that he met with, indicates that they are some of the guides for humanity who may well save millions, perhaps even billions of lives over the coming decades and centuries.

    Probably ninety percent of gifted Pentecostals or Charismatics like my wife would tell Wgabrie that he needs to repent and appeal to a higher power, Messiah Yeshua - Jesus....... but that is not exactly what I think. I think he has that option if he ever runs into trouble with his aliens....... and from my 56 years of life, expecially since 1990 I can testify that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is an astonishingly good guide - protector but....... in my opinion..... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is actually sending those aliens who Wgabrie has met with.............
    ........

    Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. page 117,118, "The Thomas Book, Near Death and a Quest for Another Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus".......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...-teach-same-things-rabbi-nachman-breslov.html

    Did Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua teach the same things as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov?
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    .......................

    I personally understand Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to be the ultimate, higher dimensional Cyrus type Messiah, who deals with people from all religious persuasions who have a brush with death.......... but who also deals more closely with anybody who will invite him to guide and protect them..... so that they can serve even more people.........… and ghosts and........
     
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    Oh..... yes........ some out of the body experiencers also report meeting with some the most totally messed up former people and/ or angels that the human mind could begin to imagine..... kind of like long time heroin addicts......… except a lot worse......… but Howard Storm felt that there really was hope for those messed up residents of the void...… and didn't even consider himself superior to them....... He felt that his path in life was leading to a similar state of consciousness.......

    I have been told that Rabbi Nachman of Breslov spent about eighty percent of his time in the out of the body state assisting lost souls to go on to a higher dimension............to "go into the light."

    If I remember correctly, Edgar Cayce certainly did a lot of that sort of thing as well..... That type of altruistic role on behalf of others caught in the void...... is a difficult one...… a high percentage of mediums........ do have psychological problems....... sometimes really serious ones..........

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html
     
  9. DennisTate

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    Wgabrie........... I have to admit........ that AA is a helluva lot better at psychologically profiling where you or I or others are really at....... and all I can say is that back in 1990, when I prayed and very clearly chose Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as my guide........ I was allowed to go downward for a decade, because I had asked for that really.............. but once that decade was over....... Wow........ my life was taken up to a whole other level and fast.......

    ...… From Rosh ha Shanah to Yom Kippur there are ten days, that I believe are symbolic of ten years.......... after I specifically volunteered to become a volunteer Yom Kippur goat, (if a volunteer Yom Kippur goat could fit into the plans of YHWH/ The G-d of Abraham/ HaShem and H-s Messiah Yeshua - Jesus).......... and after I volunteered to pay off the debt - guilt of Azazel by going back into four dimensional space - time into any and all time periods where there are people who Messiah Yeshua- Jesus, for the moment has lost.........… then I got to experience ten rough years so that I would have more empathy for others, but wow........... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has taken my life up and up and up and up since the year 2000 when that ten year rough period was over..............

    Wgabrie...… just in case you do ever feel you may be sliding........ this is a brilliant explanation of what my guide can do..........


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a08
     
  10. wgabrie

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    Well Dennis,

    AboveAlpha doesn't believe me, and he's right not to believe me because I have mental health problems (I have psychosis and dementia).

    But that's okay. I'm not mad. I'm happy and at peace.

    And besides that, at least no one is going to use me as bait to try and contact these extraterrestrials and get a treaty out of them. They'll probably refuse anyway.

    And finally I had no intention of trying to initiate contact myself again, which would require me to purchase a biohazard suit and stand around in a field for hours or days while the aliens get around to sending a ship.

    Standing around in a field in a suit to contact aliens is the very definition of crazy. Not to mention that field now belongs to someone I'm estranged to.
     
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    Dennis I'm glad things are working out for you. That's always a good sign.
     
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    Actually...... Wgabrie...... AA probably knows that you Sir....... are always attempting to tell the truth to the absolute best of your ability............. you have memories that would weird out just about anybody except that minuscule percentage of the population who have read the stuff that I have read for more than one or two decades.

    AA....... is not as free as you and I........ all that he writes is monitored........ and he has to give a certain impression to the people who gave him permission to create an ID here in politicalforum.

    He is relatively free...... he writes about just about everything and has been privy to information that all except five Presidents of the USA were not fully made aware of.

    AA.......... knows that you are sincere..... he knows that I am sincere....... he is open to the possibility that what we experienced might be mostly our own elevated levels of brain chemicals...... but....... he knows enough about the probable nature of the probable life forms in the higher dimensions of space - time that he probably takes you far far far more seriously than he may be able to admit.

    For example........ In 1990 as well as in 1999, I heard audible voice..... while I was praying. In 1990 the question was......"Ask of me whatever you want and I will give it to you?"
    In 1999..... the question I heard was....... "Are you sure you want to reign in hell ........ or do you want me to do it?"

    In 1990..... I was worried that the speaker might have been Azazel......... (due to my previous offer)...... so I was very cautious with my reply....... In 1999.... I had clued that my offer from 1990 had probably been, to at least some degree accepted, so I was by that time pretty sure that the source of the voice was very very very very high level light - truth - love - Shalom.

    (For anybody just coming into this conversation at this time posts #1 and #4 here will give you necessary background info on all this):
    http://tate4centralnova.yuku.com/topic/383/My-correspondence-with-Rabbi

    ....... By 1999..... I my number one guess as to the source of the question..... is Messiah Yeshua - Jesus....... ofcourse I had to question if it also could have been the ARchangel Uriel, identified as the King of Terror and Calumny of the Book of Enoch. Interestingly enough...... The Book of Adam and Eve has the Patriarch Adam hanging around with the ARchangel Uriel more than any other angel.

    This may possibly tie in with......... post #28......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...-we-assist-jews-get-rabbi-nachman-back-3.html
     
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    Yes Dennis, AboveAlpha knows that I'm honorable. But even though I don't know the details, I don't think AboveAlpha knows all that much about extraterrestrials. He's personally seen flare UFOs near military bases, and then there's the little bit he knows about from a JOB he took years ago that he won't go into details about.

    What he has said regarding E.T. has led me to believe that he has only experienced the dark side of it.

    Well, it's not like a human has freedom in an encounter with ET, but there's still the option to look on the bright side, accept your fate, and not be rude about it.
     
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    Dennis all of my encounters and such occurred before I had amnesia, and I emerged from that in August 1997. I haven't had such strange encounters since.

    ... Oh wait I'm wrong. I keep forgetting. There was the time I was driving down a side road on my way back from college, and there was a UFO hovering in the road.


    But anyway, I don't know about Nostradamus's 7th month of 1999.

    Is that when we party like it's 1999???
     
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    By the way Dennis, when you heard the voice was this before or after that time you saw yourself on a thrown? Do you know which one I'm talking about?
     
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    You two are literally killing me now!

    I don't know if what I will now post will help but here it goes.

    I went through and eventually taught Psy-Op's or PSYOP'S.

    Psy-Op's or Psychological Operations is both done and is taught by the U.S. Military as well Psy-Op's is also a part of the training I went through and eventually taught and I am not U.S. Military.

    Usual Psy-Op's techniques are fairly straight ahead and standard when used by the U.S. Military such as dropping Millions of Paper Leaflet's over an enemy that say in their own language....STAY HERE AND DIE or SURRENDER AT THESE LOCATIONS....and there would be a map and a list of locations for the enemies Soldiers to go to and surrender....so the leaflet would say....SURRENDER AT THESE LOCATIONS AND WE WILL GIVE YOU FOOD, WATER, MEDICINE, FIRST AID...ETC.

    But the leaflet would say at the end....THERE IS NO DISHONOR IN REFUSING A SUICIDAL ORDER!!!

    And the leaflet would have a human skull on it and so forth...fairly straight away right?

    Or U.S. Military Psy-Op's could be like what we did to get Manuel Noriega out of the Panama's Cardinal or Bishop's...I forget which one it was....out of their home as the U.S. Militaries Psy-Op's Division brought in these massive speakers and amps and played Rock Songs at 130 db day and night till the Panamanian Dictator left the safety of the Roman Catholic Churches Diocese.

    Things of that nature.

    I was trained in a different form of Psychological Warfare as I am trained in any of the techniques used by the U.S. Military but as well I and a few like me WERE PUT THROUGH HELL....and the sad or weird thing is....it really was not that effecting to me although for other's it was shere terror.

    They shot us up with all sorts of truth agents such as Sodium Amatol or Amobarbital, Sodium Pentothol, Sodium Thiopental, Ethanol, Scopolamine, 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate.....and then there was LSD and other Hallucinogenics....etc.

    The thing is when a person is shot up with a combination of Sedatives or Hypnotics that alter higher cognitive function include ethanol, scopolamine, 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate, potent short or intermediate acting hypnotic benzodiazepines such as midazolam, flunitrazepam, and various short and ultra-short acting barbiturates including sodium thiopental (commonly known by the brand name Sodium Pentothal) and amobarbital (formerly known as sodium amytal)......AND THEN LSD IS ADDED....and LSD is an INCREDIBLE STIMULANT....and then this person is LOCKED UP IN A PITCH BLACK DARK ROOM....auditory and visual hallucinatons will begin.

    Now a Human Being is a SOCIAL CREATURE and when a person is thrown in Solitary Confinement and shot up with these drugs and there is NO LIGHT.....time passage is ALMOST...ALMOST impossible to determine unless a person had been TRAINED for exactly this type of scenario.

    Siince my Mom was..."CIVILIAN"....and my Dad was Military and one of our Family Company's is specific to Medicine....I had a much better idea on what to expect and how to keep my mind focussed and busy while at the same time TRIPPING BALLS!!!

    After awhile in the dark most people cannot bear it as they just GO CRAZY!!

    People are used to being Social and to be completely alone and be TRIPPING BALLS....well most people would actually prefer the company of a TORMENTOR rather than to be completely alone in the Dark and so Doped Up with Barbiturate derivative's and LSD!!!!

    Me....I actually ENJOYED my time alone.

    I didn't enjoy the sedatives but that was quickly countered by the massive stimulant that LSD is and I had been trained by BOTH my Mom and Dad to measure passage of time in how long one's Finger Nails and Toe Nails Grow as when I was a kid I was taught this and everyone is different and if you were in a Enemy Prison you would not be eating as much and they would be sure to not feed you any Protein as Protein Depravation makes a person suseptible to suggestion and easy to control.

    Thus I had a very accurate ability to measure time passage in a pitch black dark environment.

    They also added drugs to our food that would cause us to throw up just like what would happen if a prisoner was given FOOD POISONING and in this test I was well ahead of the others in that the necessity of an as clean as possible prison cell is of the utmost importance.

    I knew to take off my under shirt and use it as a kind of PUKE BAG.

    I also knew that they would eventually simulate Dysentery so when my under shirt dried out I made sure to break up the vommit inside it and stack that dried vommit in a corner and got that under shirt ready for ROUND #2 LOL!!!

    We had a SQUAT Toilet that worked well for #1 but did not work at all for #2.

    This is where a person cannot be squeemish as the most important thing is a persons health in such a situation so as the only sensory contact with another Human Being was once a day at about noon as they would open up by sliding an approx. 20 inch long by 10 inch high locking metal pannel to one side and a tray with food that could have been anything from Maggots to Worms along with a 16 oz. cup of water would be slid into these 3 Meters Deep by 3 Meters wide by 4 Meters high steel walled and doored and Cement and Steel Grid Floored Cells through that 20 inch by 10 inch locking sliding steel pannel and on the cell side there was a steel shelve that the tray was slid onto through this pannel opening.

    I was trained to ALWAYS be testing the WILL OF YOUR CAPTORS but in this case as there was no communication and NO LIGHT as even when they slid the food and water tray into the cell all I would hear is walking outside the cell and the sliding open of that steel locking pannel and the tray being placed on the inner shelf and the tray slidding into the cell on that steel shelve and there was ABSOLUTELY NO LIGHT WHEN THEY PLACED THE TRAY ON THE CELL DOORS INNER SHELVE as I found out later they would shut off the lights in the hall before they slid open the doors steel panel.

    There were 18 of us and this training building was built with only 3 CELL ROOMS PER FLOOR and each floor was set up with 4 hallways as 3 hallways would have one cell within each of them and they had TWO SETS OF DOUBLE DOORS at the end of each hallway so that when the Guards who fed us came into a Hallway they had to pass through one set of double doors and then let those doors close completely closed as they were sound insulated...and then the Guards would open up a second set of insulated from sound double doors and then I could here 2 of them walk down the hallway to my cell door and one guard would flip the hallway lights switch and they used DIODE LIGHTING as Flourecent Bulbs make a sound and they didn't want any sounds coming into our cells....so the guard would shut off the light....unlock and slide open the pannel....and then slide the food tray into the room atop the cell doors inner metal food shelf.

    Continued.....

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Now when the 18 of us....as actually there were originally 30 of us as the cell building has 11 Underground Floors and 2 Above Ground Floors and they would start with 30 Men and sometimes women and the reason they started with 30 of us is that they only had 30 cell rooms.

    But by the time in this Psy-Op Training Program that you get to the Solitary Confinement and Drug Regiment....most of those who are not going to make it through such training have been weeded out and most Bugged Out after the WATERBOARDING....which was another aspect of this program I had little difficulty with as Waterboarding if done correctly NEVER results in a fatality.

    They place you on a TILT BOARD or any tilted board will do but the Tilt Boards that are just a HOLLOW STAINLESS STEEL SEE SAW work the best.

    The entire intention and aimed goal of WATERBOARDING is to SCARE a person into telling you what you want to hear without Killing Them or causing them bodily trauma.

    A person is strapped down to a Tilt Board with their hands Shakled or Zip Tied to the boards and a persons arms are down along the sides of one's body....and a persons legs are either shackled or Zip Tied by their ankles to the end of the board and a person can also be tied or shakled upon their waist to the board depending on the board and a person usually had their neck shacked or tied to the tilt board or Leather Head Gear where a persons chin and forehead are heald in position against the tilt board.

    Then 2 Interogators come into the room and if they are good they wil not say a WORD and just begin Waterboarding you by tilting the tilt board so your head is down and from your waist to your feet are UP.

    A wet cloth is placed over a persons entire face which covers the mouth and nostrils and then water in either 1 Gallon Plastic Milk Containers or water in a 5 gallon bucket or water in a Flower Watering Can....is slowly poured right on a persons chin area as this SIMULATES DROWNING because as a person takes a breath the wet cloth is pulled into their mouth and nostrils because it is wet with water and it forms a vacuum as a person attempts to breath.

    A person who is beginning to PANIC FOR AIR.....will gasp for air breathing in as fast and as hard as they can and this draws water into their mouth and lungs....and the SECRET to breathing is to slowly inhale with your lips almost closed and draw in air in small amounts through your nostrils when the water is being poured and when the people waterboarding you take a break....unles they are using a HOSE and simply leave the hose attached to something else as the water pours directly onto one's face and mouth...well even if this happens a person can STILL BREATH!!

    As long as they don't PANIC they can a little at a time purse their lips together in a line and draw in air right through the wet cloth and do the same with their nose although I don't advise trying the nose for this unless a person is good at it.

    Continued....

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Anyways...by the time we got to the Drug Regiments and Solitary Confinement we were down to 18 and after 1 WEEK of Solitary Confinement in those conditions 10 of the 18 QUIT!!!

    This left 8 of us and the second week they started introducing HEAVY doses of LSD in the food and Water along with Sodium Thiopental and then they would INTRODUCE STIMULI.

    Such stimuli could be a man weeping....a man sceaming as in pain....a child crying....a women begging for someone to stop.....then they kicked up the auditory sensory stimulus as all of a sudden an AIR HORN would sound at 130 db....or perhaps an Ambulance Siren very loud or Klackson's....or AN ALARM BELL but ringing at 130 db.

    THEN....they would do this but add LIGHTING as they would wake you up out of REM Sleep as later I found out they watched and recorded everything by IR-Camera....and you would be sleeping and then a SIREN would go off with the same kind of LIGHTING IN THE CELL which came on and would just stop.

    So it was NOT for the faint of heart!! LOL!!!

    I had no issue with the solitary but anytime you are sound asleep and a SIREN AND LIGHT SHOW go off at 130 db and bright as HELL....well that get's to ANYONE...especially when they are doing it 3 times a night!!

    Then came the TEPERATURE ISSUES....as they had taken away our shoes and socks and belts so we had on pants, a shirt and a t-shirt and underwear.

    They were able to either DROP or RAISE the cell temps from a chilly 33 Degrees F all the way up to 105 Degrees F.

    And the METAL WALLS where conducting the heat in the cell and they were very hot and to touch a wall would give you a GOOD BURN!!

    The COLD....from the FLOOR and as we had no shoes or socks I tore out my oversized pockets and used them as socks!!

    Continued....

    AboveAlpha
     
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    The COLD is what did it for 2 more out of the remaining 8 and then remaining 6.

    Then after the 2nd week past began the 3rd week.

    The 3rd week they stopped giving us drugs and stopped everything except to feed us and give us water and as I said keeping one's cell as clean as possible and oneself as clean as possible is incredibly important to one day I did not return my water cups inner lining as they were plastic and Thermos Like....and I was able to pry the inner lining of a cup out of it as I saw later that the cups were all BLACK inside and outside and because of what I did it made them change the cups to have a black exterior and a white liner.

    Why didn't they just make the cups ONE SOLID PIECE OF PLASTIC???

    Because they wanted us to experiment and find anything we could use as if a person did not return their bowl or cup....as all food was placed in a plastic solid bowl and the water in a 16 oz. cup and when I did not return my cup during the first week the next day I got no water so I had to put it back.

    But at the beginning of the second week I seperated the black inner liner of these thermos like cups and I kept it in the corner under my t-shirt full of Vommit and Crap which I would remove when it dried and placed it in the corner to the left of the door inside.

    In this inner cup I would pour about 1/5th of my total water for the day and keep it in cases of dehydration brought on by the Drugs or for SANITATION when they gave us the symptoms of Desentery.

    ANYWAYS....during the last week they gave us no drugs....no sounds as they quietly crept into the hallways and placed our food on the inner shelf when we were sleeping and this is when I learned that a Human Beings Mind when in total blackness and with NO SOUND TO BE HEARD OTHER THAN THE BEATING OF ONE'S OWN HEART AND BREATHING......that a person will begin to VISUALLY AND AUDIBLY HALLUCINATE!!!

    I was seeing things happening and listening to people having conversations that were not real!!!

    And the wild thing about it was I KNEW THEY WERE NOT REAL....yet after 3 weeks I was willing to allow my mind to generate up anything to keep myself and my mind occupied!!

    I am CERTAIN that had this almost ZERO PROTEIN DIET with just water continued that by the 5th or 6th week I would have been talking to friends that did NOT EXIST!!!

    AND I WAS ONE OF ONLY 3 PEOPLE THAT MADE IT THROUGH THIS AND I WAS CONSIDERED THE BEST OF THE 3 TO HANDLE THE ORDEAL!!!!

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    Anyway's...the REASON I brought this up is because I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE to be challenged with trying to figure out what is REAL and what is my MIND CREATING IT'S OWN REALITY!!

    After 3 weeks in the Dark and after 3 weeks with verly little sound except when they wanted to blare alarms and lights at 130 db while I was asleep.....a persons mind creates it's own little reality if it is SENSORY DEPRIVED!!

    During the 3rd week I actually was WATCHING TV as I would SWEAR that I was seeing the movie Alien's playing on a TV size area of one of my walls in that cell!!!

    I was able to finish the training.....and getting out of that cell was NOT the ending of the training as there was 3 more MONTHS of Psy-Op's Training as the second part of such training needs the person who is being trained to have SOME FORM OF REFERENCE....so without everything that happened before I walked out of that cell....I would not have been able to finish the next 3 months of training.

    Anyways....I am trying to tell you guy's that there are WAYS for a person to train themselves to know whether what they are seeing, hearing or believing are REALITIES.

    And for me it all started with measuring how long my finger and toe nails would grow each week.

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    Well you certainly went into detail there. All I can say is you are the champion my friend! :worship:

    But while the details are there I'm unable to put 2+2 together on your concept of having a frame of reference and telling what is real.

    Oh well, maybe if I sleep on it I'll figure something out by the morning.

    But all I can think of is OH GOD, NO! He wants us to go through Psyops training! :omg:
     
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    What I am trying to tell you in a round about manner is that I understand what it is and what it feels like to have to question your own perception.

    When I was in that cell....and I faired much better than the others by a vast degree....I swore I was watching a MOVIE but I also knew at the same time there was no movie and it was just my lack of sensory input and the low protein diet that was getting to me.

    So I had already been given some training to an extent by my Parents with how to deal with such things but while I was in that cell I had to chose with forcing myself to realise there was no Movie Playing or SLIP into a FALSE REALITY.

    Slipping is always easier than HOLDING FAST....and I developed my own way's of HOLDING FAST.

    One of those way's was TO DIRECT MY MIND TO SEE WHAT I WANTED TO SEE....as it is easier to allow one's Subconscious to run the show but this run's the risk of a person losing their sense of reality.

    Another way was to ANCHOR MY THOUGHTS IN THE HERE AND NOW....as what was past did not matter in that cell and what was ahead as I had absolutely no idea how long I would be there so even though I had no clock my mind would begin to think....MAYBE IN 30 SECONDS SOMEONE WILL OPEN THE DOOR! Then 30 seconds would go by and my mind would think....I THINK I HEAR SOMEONE IN THE HALL!! But no one was there.

    So rather than have my mind constantly driving me crazy over what had past and what was to come....I would do something like tap my hands on my legs or the floor and drum and sing out a song.

    Just ANYTHING to keep my mind on the HERE AND NOW....because if you don't....you drift....you slide...and keep sliding.

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    Hey that's good advice.

    And actually I followed it after I had amnesia.

    It's just that recent discussions have dragged up the memories that I'm just rediscovering from before I had amnesia. And I'm dying to talk about them.
     
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    Okay, I can do this. I'm strong (like a creampuff). I'll just passive-aggressively deny anything happened between myself and the aliens. Up until the day that it's ever proven true, and I'm in a sound mind and body to judge that (easier said than done).
     

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