My argument is that the anomalies prove they didn't go to the moon. I only said that space radiation is probably why they had to fake it.
Now that we know that the actual amount of radiation wouldn't have been an obstacle, why did they fake it then?
You don't have an argument, you cowardly avoid questions or conveniently get banned from various places, Then you run back to your basketball forum to bizarrely report your spam events. I see you luckily avoided the flak over at the debate politics forum! A series of posts, that I might add, are very similar to posts I made here(one of the drawbacks to letting everybody know where you spam?), These points now appear to be being taken up by other users in many other forums now. You are well and truly busted, all we get from you is your series of spammed responses. Let me demonstrate this:- Give a detailed summary of your 'atmosphere explanation' that presents the science behind it. I isolated the clip showing this initial movement from 2 metres away, but you yourself finally admitted the exact point where it started and it is well over a metre away.
We don't know. That's just the info the government made public. To know for sure, we'd have to send up our own probe and measure it ourselves. People can read it all here. http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html Hey viewers... Be sure to check out post #12 of the above thread.
Just curious scott If the missions were real, one would expect lots and lots and lots of photos Recently about 10,000 pics have been posted Are you aware of this Creating elaborate fakes for so many photos would be an enormous task Requiring the work of a very large staff, all if whom would have to keep the secret Is this what you claim us true?
Evidently they did create elaborate fakes as the anomalies show the missions to have been filmed in a studio. http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/347662-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-studio.html
Scott....there is no possible way to fake TRIANGULATION of the Apollo Craft by every single Nation on Earth that has HAM radio receivers. Plus...I mean don't you think that the Soviet's would have said something during a Space Race and Cold War???? Of course they would have. We went to the Moon...many times....and Radiation was an issue but not one we could not overcome. AboveAlpha
The Apollo Astronauts all had to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements. Do you know why? I will give you a clue and I assure you as bizarre as this might seem it is very much a fact. The CLUE is that Apollo Astronauts were instructed by NASA to talk in CODE whenever they observed something specific. Such....CODE....being spoken by the Apollo Astronauts upon ALL APOLLO MISSIONS....are examples like this..... An Apollo Astronaut saying to another Apollo Astronaut after getting off their Lunar Rover and selecting Rock Samples for study......"Hey! Santa Claus is back!.....{Other Astronaut}....."Yep! I see him!"......{First Astronaut}...."Uhhh.....Houston? It seems like every day is Christmas up here!".......{Houston}...."Are you guy's almost finished...over?"......{Second Astronaut}....."We have about 10 more minutes to go Houston....do you want to call it?"......{Houston}......"Uh...Roger! Let's call it! Packer her up and head back to the Lander...over.".....{First Astronaut}....."Sounds good Huston....it's getting HOT up here!".......{Houston}....."Just take it easy and don't leave anything behind...over."....... Upon EVERY LUNAR LANDING....such code was spoken with such names as SANTA CLAUS, BIG FOOT, EASTER BUNNY...etc...being used. Several Apollo Astronauts have now much older....have spoken out about what happened up there. The SAME thing happened to X-15 Pilots. The X-15 was a Rocket Powered Experimental Air and Space Craft launched from under the wing of a B-52 and the X-15 Pilots were able to REACH SPACE....but their Program was so HIGHLY CLASSIFIED that they were not even given their NASA ASTRONAUT SPACE WINGS...which are given to anyone who has flown into SPACE. The X-15 Pilots were given their Astronaut Wings back in 2005 and 2006 as many X-15 Pilots had entered Space. Here is where things get crazy. Soviet Yuri Gagarin reached space in 1961 with American Allan Sheppard 2nd into space after Gagarin in the same year less than a month behind Gagarin......BUT...... ....BUT.....the X-15 Program began in 1955!!!! It is still Highly Classified but it is said that X-15 Pilots reached Space in late 1960. This cannot be confirmed....but they flew 199 Missions. And the X-15 was the Test Bed Craft that helped developed the Space Shuttle. But something also happened up there which caused NASA to force all APOLLO ASTRONAUTS to sign a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT!!! Anyone figured out what was going on? AboveAlpha
Your statement doesn't make the anomalies that show the footage was taken in a studio go away. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487 There are plausible scenarios. Maybe some people were suspicious but never went to the press. Anyone who would have gone to the press would have been ignored anyway. Take a look at this stuff. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker:+Russia,+Jodrell+Bank+&+Frequencies MoonFaker: TETR-A? What TETR-A? PART 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8BeB3crSs You're assuming that we were being told the truth about what was happening. What was going on behind the scenes may have been very different. I've posted this I don't know how many times but here it is again. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker+cold+war&aq=f http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html (excerpt) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this? Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm (excerpt) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://libcom.org/history/articles/cold-war-1940-1989?quicktabs_1=0 (excerpt) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do a YouTube search on "Chomsky media".
Every single one of these so called anomalies has been explained. The fact is we went to the Moon. Scott....the Apollo Astronauts placed Laser Reflectors on the Lunar Surface which NASA and anyone with a Laser powerful enough uses CONSTANTLY to determine the exact distance the Moon is away from us and determine the velocity of the Moon spin and we have determined using this Laser Reflector that the Earth will some day LOSE OUR MOON as the Moon is getting further and further away from Earth a small distance each year. It would be impossible for these Laser Reflectors to exist on the Lunar Surface unless a Human put them there as even a robotic probe could not align the laser reflectors to the exact position they would need to be placed. This has to be done with Human Hands and they must be aligned to such an extent many times more accurately than aligning a Dish. People all over the world in Universities and Labs have bounced Laser Beams of these placed Reflectors and this has been going on for over 45 years. AboveAlpha
Adjustable reflectors could be attached to a rotating top section of a remote-controlled landing craft. If the Surveyor program was real, they had that technology back then. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487 What Happened on the Moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W79mIGx9Ib4 (3:26:03 time mark) People who've tried to obfuscate them have the attitude that they've explained them but thay haven't. People can read this thread and decide for themselves. http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html
We did not have the technology and robotics back in 69 through 72 to properly land a robotic vehicle that would be able to not only land in an area where it could move around as well as self adjust not one but MULTIPLE LASER REFLECTORS as their angle allows use of the U.S., Europe, Australia and even Russia. AboveAlpha
It wouldn't have to move around - just land, as reflectors could be aimed in the right direction. Was the Surveyor program real? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveyor_program
You don't understand. Landing a craft on the Moon back then was touch and go and we did not have ROVER tech back then either. Where ever the craft landed that would be the location of just ONE reflector and the craft back then could have very well landed in a orator or on top a rock...etc. We had to set up several reflectors and align them at multiple vectors to allow them to be used by different agencies on different continents. Besides....the Apollo Landing Craft left behind their Landing Undercarriage on the Lunar Surface and these have been detected by both Magnetometers and Mass Spectrometers within Lunar Satellites placed in Lunar Orbit by the European, Chinese, Japanese, Soviet and then Russian Space Programs. It's not like we can't detect them as they are there. AboveAlpha
The bottom line is that the anomalies prove the hoax. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487 The "Experts" who say the missions were real have been discredited. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&p=1064898563#post1064898563
Scott....you yourself provided the LINK that details that Radiation Levels that Astronauts encounter while traveling to the Moon come nowhere NEAR fatal levels. Since this has been PROVEN by your own post and since those of us old enough to watch those Massive Saturn V Rockets blast into Space with Astronauts aboard them....and I watched this happen when I was a kid....and since we can even use the Hubble Space Telescope to zoom in on the Apollo Landers undercarriages left on the Moon as well as the Lunar Rovers....we KNOW that we landed on the Moon. For you to continue going on stating we didn't is illogical. AboveAlpha
I'm just putting everything on the table so it can be talked about. That's just data made public by NASA. Pictures are fakable so they wouldn't prove anything anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY The bottom line is that the anomalies prove the hoax. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
Data made available from other space agencies. You aren't interested in talking about this. You are stuck in a cycle of spammed insanity. Your argument is so pathetic it is off the scale. There are thousands of pictures and every one totally consistent with expectations. The time to do this, the sheer size of any studio, that maps exactly what we expect is so ridiculous it is beyond feasible. Spam removed. The true bottom line is that you have some sort of delusionary obsessions with the Moon missions. You sit in your internet café typing the same identical posts, links and responses. What madness possesses you I cannot say, but it is extremely abnormal. You are simply incapable of being educated by people with more experience, seeing reason above your illogical hogwash or being able to see how you are hopelessly wrong about a whole plethora of things.
As I keep saying it would cost much more money to create a HOAX than it would to actually land on the Moon!!! And they did not have the technology and even TODAY it would be near impossible and difficult in the extreme to FAKE landing on the Moon!!! We would have to have a broadcasting spacecraft that landed on the Moon to allow Triangulation of the Apollo Spacecrafts signal....so basically we would have to do the same thing just without astronauts!!! LOL!!! It's crazy!!! We went to the Moon. Some people just have to deal with it. AboveAlpha
Thinking people will look at the anomalies and decide for themselves. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487 They won't be swayed by rhetoric. Several people who maintain that the missions were real have destroyed their credibility by saying lame things. (post #7) http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&p=1064898563#post1064898563 (post #12) http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979 Something lame said in an authoritative patronizine way is still lame. Thinking people don't have to have this pointed out. I think most of the viewers here are thinking people.
That is a group of people that you aren't part of. Thinking people know America put 12 men on the Moon in 6 successful landings. Nothing your persistent and disturbing spamming will make this "go away"! They will be swayed by a volume of evidence that is absolutely vast. They won't be swayed by pathetic, ignorant arguments about tiny incidents that fools don't understand. As stated before on dozens of replies to your persistent and odious repetition, when somebody of your extremely poor calibre is the judge of that credibility, using a yardstick of total stupidity, such judgement can be dismissed and laughed at. But not you. Nobody except other sad conspiracy jerks agree with you. You have nothing at all. For the thinking people, yet again another demonstration of the evasive cowardice from this individual shall be shown. List 10 anomalies with a brief description, without the spam video, without the spam link. Use your own words. Thinking people will see you fail to answer this.