Love Each Other, Cherish Each Other, and Enjoy Success

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  1. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump said something in his acceptance speech in Indiana that we haven't heard in a long long time.
    "We're going to love each other, we're going to cherish each other, we're going to take care of each other, and we're going to have great economic developmentĀ…"

    I'm tired of being stretched like a rope between the conservatives and liberals - especially over issues that I don't really care that much about. Part of Trump's appeal for me is that he isn't ruled by ideology as much as by pragmatism. He makes it OK to lean liberal on some issues and conservative on other issues. It's a much more natural state, and certainly allows people freedom the binding extremes placed on them by their parties. I think people will be happier under Trump. I believe him when he says we're going to start accepting each other and caring about one another. I think what worked for Ireland can work for us -- give us jobs and prosperity and peace will follow.

    And keep that hateful old bat who is a criminal to boot, out of our White House!
     
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    That's what we have been needing, a president who stands in the grey area and can see the argument on both sides and try to come up with peaceful resolutions.

    I'm not sure if trump is the all out answer, but for too long have we been fed totally partisan politicians. We need a uniter, this country won't survive if we keep going at each other's throats.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    So you are saying America needs a RINO?
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    That reading comprehension is acting up again eh?

    What part of a non partisan president do you not understand, or are you ok with the radicals we been having?
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    A non partisan president is not going to stand by the Conservative party line. He's going to compromise with liberals.

    Isn't that the very textbook definition of the RINOs that you guys usually rail against?
     
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    I'll vote for Trump over Cankle, but he doesn't really strike me as a "peaceful resolutions" guy. :roflol:
     
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    Obama tried to do this, the GOP refused to sing along. If you think Trump is going to do a better job then you are nuts. Trump will actually make it worse because not only will he get no help from the left, the right wing will fight him tooth and nail. He is toxic to the very nature of political pragmatism. Given the way he expresses himself and acts, his administration will be constantly dealing with self-made disasters from every side. Sorry, you are buying a sales pitch that has nothing behind it.
     
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    They are out there, but neither side wants to let them through. A uniter would take away government power too much for their liking.

    But the GOP took a hard dose of reality of what happens when you think you can go against the people and win, and they got (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slapped.

    Next, the democrats need a even stronger dose of reality.

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    Lol no not really. He has the backbone needed at the presidential level, but he is more aggressive than peaceful by far lol.
     
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    No, what needs to happen is an Article V convention ending the first past the post electoral system in favor of a proportional one.
     
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    Lol always blame the right , cute . Sorry to say but Obama was not a uniter nor was he interested in it. He created a ton of division on his own and it is resonating harshly during this election.

    And I never stated trump was going to be the magical uniter, that's just you feeling that liberal tingle up your leg and getting mad because someone said they didn't want a radical left wing president.

    Go back and read.

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    Lol always blame the right , cute . Sorry to say but Obama was not a uniter nor was he interested in it. He created a ton of division on his own and it is resonating harshly during this election.

    And I never stated trump was going to be the magical uniter, that's just you feeling that liberal tingle up your leg and getting mad because someone said they didn't want a radical left wing president.

    Go back and read.
     
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    I'll take a backbone over a Cankle anyday. :cool:

    And a backbone in the oval office would be a welcome change from the past 7 years.
     
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    What needs to happen is straight up popular vote . No more primary BS and no more electoral college. Make everyone's vote truly count.

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    Now ain't that the damn truth. A fetus has a stronger spine than Obama has shown. And Hillary, that woman would trade American lives if it benefited her. I have zero trust in Hillary what so ever.
     
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    Great notion . . . by quite possibly the least capable political candidate for carrying through on it. What about Trump's campaign screams anything other than division and derision?
     
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    You obviously haven't heard Trump's other speeches, or read his books. Trump is a polished motivational speaker as well. It doesn't drift off too far from what Obama has said in the past.
    Of course, everyone wants to strike peace in the world, but regardless of which party occupies the White House, it's human nature to want more, and steal from others to a extent, which leads to war, fueled by both greed and religion.

    Unless Trump can change human nature, and play god, I heavily doubt he or Clinton, could strike that balance.
     
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    Ok explain this to me because Im having trouble processing this sentence. And no Im not being a smart ass lol, I dont understand what you mean by this.
     
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    First past the post is the name for our electoral system. Simply put, I win .1% more of the votes in a state than you do, I win the entire state.

    A proportional system would give each candidate in the race a proportion of the votes equal to the amount they actually won.

    And an Article V Convention is a limited Constitutional Convention called by the states.
     
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    Depends on how you want to look at his words, or in many cases how you want to skew them.

    Problem I see is we in general are too controlled by opinions rather than fact. All the media or a higher up politician has to do is skew someones words just enough and they start a firestorm. And also inconvenient facts are left out for the purpose of pushing an agenda and the lesser educated take it from there.

    In my opinion this presidential race has shown exactly how dumb the general public has become.
     
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    Ah ok, so generally the same as delegates are split up in some states during primaries .Win 60% of the vote in that state then you get 60% of the electoral votes in that particular state. Well that would definitely be more fair and make everyone's vote truly count for something.

    So with that would there be a "Magic number" the candidates need to reach, or just overall points gets the nomination?
     
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    Most of the time when I have a complaint about them, his supporters around here just tell me that he doesn't mean what he says. Which I guess is a little comforting.

    Yeah, it's important to remember that the media has a strong bias for sensationalism.
     
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    In my opinion Trump has gone off the wall a couple times, even once my jaw dropped to the floor. I can't remember what that was but i am sure a quick search would bring it up. But at the same time I have found to agree with what he has said, and being Mexican myself he has not said anything to offend me. I think the thing is he is one of the few people that will actually say the things that are taboo these days and in the time of this PC nonsense people are simply shocked that he is so forward and aggressive with it. He doesn't sugar coat, he doesn't pander to the professionally offended, he seriously shoots straight from the hip and can give a damn what you really think about him. He is overconfident, which is a blessing and a curse.

    But the thing is people do not realize many things they bash him for saying actually has facts on his side. It may be taboo and considered a "no go zone" , but *******n it someone has to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing say it eventually do they not lol? We can't keep avoiding issues because it might hurt someones feelings, thats just like not punishing a bad kid because you are scared it may be child abuse so you just let them keep on being bad and justify it somehow.

    For example he speaks of illegals and they bring crime, drugs and are killers and rapists. Well he is not really wrong. fact of the matter is , and again I will have to find the Pew Research Study on this, that illegals commit somewhere between 60%-70% of the violent crime among the hispanic community. So obviously that is a major problem not only for the hispanic community because it makes us look like crap, but to the country because we are literally allowing many criminals just walk among us when they have no right to be here anyways. But to twist things people just label him as racist for saying this and we have a movement of idiots rioting in the streets and attacking people for no reason other than not agreeing that illegal immigrants belong here lol.

    And of course you have it working the other way, where ********s like the KKK show their ugly heads and shout their stupidities and it just makes things look worse than they really are.

    For the last couple years actually I have been convinced that this is done on purpose to divide us as a nation, nothing but smoke and mirrors.

    I dunno, its all a clusterfruck!
     
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    In my perfect world, there would be a magic number somewhere between 60 and 75% of all delegates with I stand runoff elections occurring every other day until a final candidate meets that criteria.
     
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    such as ?
     
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    I do blame the right. He won two landslides and all the GOP did was obstruct and defile every thing he said or did, they are still doing it. I am sorry the truth upsets you. The right wing today is nothing but the John Birch Society, just look at who they just nominated. The entire party is destroying itself over dogma.
     

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