Where are Donald's Tax Returns?

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course the reasons are crystals clear, but the poster was just pointing out that it is routinely done and the reasons are already evident to anyone with half a brain and they do not need to be verbalized over and over again.

    This sums it up quite succinctly and it goes for all nominees...

    Senate Bill Would Require Presidential Nominees to Release Tax Returns

    The American people deserve transparency and information when choosing who to vote for to run our country. This is why presidential nominees have released their returns for nearly 40 years. A tax return cannot spin blatant exaggerations and opinions into facts.

    A tax return cannot pander and only present one side. A tax return cannot fabricate income, charitable giving and tax shelters. A tax return tells the truth.



    Why would anyone NOT want the transparency? Get real.

    http://padgettsh.com/2016/05/26/sen...presidential-nominees-to-release-tax-returns/
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Ahhh the qualifications and requirements of the President are Constitutional issues not Legislative issues. A red herring on Weyden's part better known as grandstanding. AND even if such a bill passed it would have to apply to the final IRS accepted return which Trump has none at this point in time. So it would not help all those who are demanding to be shown his non-accepted, not-final return. And what reasons are there for seeing the forms which are NOT his final returned which has been accepted by the IRS? Your tax return is NOT your tax return until the IRS tells you it has been accepted as your tax return.

    And again the key issue here and which no can can give an applicable answer is what damaging information are ya'll all salivating over expecting to be in it.


    Go ask Hillary and her staff and supporters.
     
  3. PeppermintTwist

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    You are being obstinate and argumentative on the issue just for the sake of it. AND if it was a Democratic nominee you'd be foaming from the mouth...I'm hip...no need to respond.
     
  4. Vegas giants

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    Again the only reason we need is that we want it. If we want every candidate to do something then the standard is the same for everyone. I hope he never turns them over. And spends the rest of the election cycle explaining why.
     
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    Too hard for you to understand? The $3,000,000 to the Clinton Foundation was not charity, it was a tax scam. Out of their $28 Million gross income, only $22,500 was actually given to a true charity - 0.08% of their total income.
     
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    All you have to do is prove it. LOL
     
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    Easy - the link to her tax return was provided earlier. Interesting how you do anything and everything to distract from the failure of the "progressive" ideology and its leaders.
     
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    There could be a number of reasons why Donald Trump might not want to release his tax returns, all legitimate. He might not want to reveal that he is not nearly as rich as he claims. He may have cheated on his taxes and been caught. He might not want his wife to know how much money he's paying his mistresses to allow him to cover them with his disgusting, fat body, or the missis might demand the same payment.

    Donald Trump is a special man, and he should not be held to the same standards as the rest of us. If he's got some things to hide in his tax returns, we should just quietly ignore them. After all, you don't really want something to come out that could cause him to be impeached should he be elected president of the United States, do you? Of course not!
     
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    I guess you can't prove it where it counts....in a court of law. LOL
     
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    That makes no sense at all. Can't you follow a steady stream of thought?
     
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    Did you cite where they were charged with tax fraud.....because you sure claimed they did it! LOL
     
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    A tax return does not contain someone's net worth, he already disclosed his net worth and holdings in his 98 page financial disclosure form.
    That would be public knowledge already for past returns and we won't know for 2015 until the IRS finishes the audit and accepts his return.

    I would bet they file a joint return so she would know what is in the return and beyond that I don't know where you would report such payments on a tax return. What line would that be?

    He's being held to a higher standard than most as he is being audited which only happens to about 2% of returns get audited.
     
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    No I'm being factually accurate amongst all the false claims about his tax return and the process it is going through. I never have particularly cared for ANY of them having to file their tax returns but at the least make it their final return accepted by the IRS. And I just find it amusing all the hyperventilating going on with all these fallacious assertions about what they are salivating to find which isn't in their to begin with.
     
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    Not a very convincing reason admitting you don't even know why you want to see it even before it is his ACTUAL return and stamped as such by the IRS.

    And you think his supporters will care why? I'm more interested in hearing Clinton explain why after looking the American people in the face, I guess she's lucky she wasn't wagging her finger, and saying she would speak with anyone at anytime and cooperate fully with any investigation why she refused to cooperate with the investigation Secretary of State Kerry order and was conducted by the State Department IG which under the law a the former head of the agency she is required to fully cooperate with. And is she going to spend the rest of the election cycle explaining why or rather telling more lies why? I think she has far more to hide over that than Trump in his tax returns.

    Which ranks higher on your list?
     
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    Feel free to be interested in anything you like. He is hiding something awful. It is the only logical conclusion. And he will be judged harshly for it by independents
     
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    The proper response for ANY candidate when asked is "Why should you get to see my tax returns? It's not your business".
     
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    Feel free to keep your tax return. I will keep my vote. Lol
     
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    That's interesting. If every candidate was to refuse, on principle, to publicize his returns, would you simply abstain from voting altogether?
     
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    When that happens I will let you know. Right now there is only one who has refused.
     
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    If ANY candidate is that adamant about not revealing the truth about their finances via their tax returns, you've got a liar, fraud and cheat on the ballot...end of story.
     
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    Can you imagine the mouth frothing that would have ensued if Obama had refused? And Obama was just a salaried Senator and not even a guy involved with high finance and huge investments. I can just imagine...:eyepopping:
     
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    How about on that that is adamant about not being subject to FOIA and the the FRA WHILE serving as a high official and refusing to cooperated with the IG inspection, do you got a liar, fraud and cheat on the ballot?

    And since his tax return is not final nor accepted by the IRS it is not the "truth" yet is it. While he DID release 98 pages of financial information. What is it you are salivating to find in the tax return?

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    Yes they do under penalty of perjury and since his tax returns will NOT show his net worth what are you babbling about in the first place.

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    Refused to do so until an audit was completed, I doubt there would have been a whimper.
     
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    Sure hasn't happened but give me your logical reasoning as to how you come to the only conclusion that he is hiding something awful because his tax return is not complete nor accepted by the IRS yet so he is not going to release an inaccurate return and then explain how you are claiming something is awful in them yet you can't even express what it is you expect to find in them.

    And if you think independents will judge him more harshly over his tax return than Clinton over the HUGE legal jeopardy she has created for herself with her lies and purposeful deceit...........
     
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    It must be absolutely awful what he is hiding since no one has done it since nixon
     

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