He sat in a church for twenty years where the pastor said hateful things about our people and nation. http://righthandthief.blogspot.com/2008/03/least-favorite-jeremiah-wright-quotes.html?m=1 He agrees with the Islamic terrorists message, just not with their religious beliefs.
Well, there we go. If I don't believe the method is going to work, then stopping arguing isn't really a good idea, is it?
Example 1 - The revolutionary war. The religious tyranny of monarchs that were appointed by god was creating a lot of problems for the colonies. Many loyalists actually believed that fighting for the rebels was a stance against god himself. Once the war was won the founding fathers enacted the constitution, which clearly explains a separation of church and state. Fast forward to present day when we're instituting countless social policies such as public schools, which is a place where god is not allowed. It's a somewhat nefarious plot, if you think about it. Although no plot was more nefarious than the publicly funded churches in Europe. The real way to kill churches is to unionize them.
All extremists are a threat. We don't have to respond to them by becoming them though. Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
I'm going to bypass the slapdash history lesson and go straight to the claim that public schools are a place where god isn't allowed. How does that work exactly? Supposedly this being is everywhere, but you're saying that we have created a way to prevent him entering certain buildings? Maybe you mean all the ones that prohibit religion outright? Must be a long list. Go ahead and list a couple that prevent students from believing how they want, carrying or holding whatever holy books they like or praying so long as they are not creating a disturbance. As long a list as you can muster. I'll wait. Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
With all the drone strikes we seem to carry out on a daily basis, I don't think he's oblivious. Some are hurt because he won't say some words they want him to say. Which will probably further incite more radicals. - - - Updated - - - Bring in a bomb sniffing dog with you. LOL. JK.
No they aren't. We have had extremists in this country since its founding. They may at one time been a threat but they are no longer. I can't recall the last atheist extremist attack that ended in people dying. The formation of the church of Satan is about it. A punchline. I can't remember the last extremist Jewish attack that resulted in people dying. I can't recall the last Amish extremists attack that resulted in people dying. So, no, all extremism is not equal. I didn't suggest we go to a social event where Muslims gather and slaughter unarmed innocent people. So where in the hell you got this idea that we need to be exactly like them I don't know.
They could have a lot quicker. We can't wait around for these people to have a renaissance. It took 15 bloody bloody centuries and the loss of many cultures for Christians to do it You mean one and a half millennia. So we should wait that long, in the mean time how many cultures will be destroyed. How many of their own people will die? We have the means to end this. It's a complicated multi faceted problem and killing off the poisonous influence is only the first step. To me if it puts an end to human suffering it's worth doing.
There is no such thing as an atheist extremist, and we'll disagree about whether or not all extremists are a threat as well. I never suggested violence at all; we're still in the talking stage.
religious nuts are always dangerous regardless of their faith so yes.... Islamist radicals are a threat to all of us and yes, the anti-gay religious dogma is insane.... time to end it.. again regardless of the faith..... .
Christians and atheists live in countries whose wealth and stability is founded on centuries of human rights atrocities spanning the entire globe. Those atrocities still continue, they just don't receive front-page treatment like the problems of other peoples. And all the while they can be counted on to parade their supposed moral virtues. It's a little ridiculous to point to this relatively juvenile example of world conflict coming from...supposedly...radical Islamists. It is more likely that the bulk of these generally senseless- tactically and strategically pointless- terrorist attacks (which operate directly against terrorist strategy, which is to demoralize rather than anger and invigorate resistance or aggression) is manufactured to do just what they are doing- provoke more anti-Islamic hatred and greenlight or smoke screen further Middle Eastern offensives from the west...in the name of peace, of course.
So you believe, or at least suspect, that most terrorist are rubes? (Also most westerners, but thats a given.) Who really profits from this elaborate con game?
So 100% of atheism is middle of the road? So pastafarians, deists, church of Satan, agnostics, and average everyday atheists are all equal? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You are entitled to be foolish. Extremists among Amish people never flew planes into buildings. I've presented proof that all extremism isn't a threat. Talking stage? Really? Go talk those 49 dead people back to life, than I'll agree we are in the talking stage. The talking stage doesn't exist to anybody but you. These people don't care what you say.
American Christians and Atheists are not beheading innocent souls and making a video production out of it. It wasn't an American Christian or an Atheist that killed 49 people in that nightclub. It was a Muslim with radical beliefs and ties to other Muslim radicals. Ignorance will get you killed. Mateen was a radicalized Muslim. He committed the worst mass murder to date...for Allah. Christians are not opening fire on people in nightclubs for Jesus. Islam has a problem...admit it.
Many people profit- including some of the Middle Easterners. You have to see this not as a game between right and wrong, but a game of power between players. The players are not all "states:" either. Islamic radicalism to the extremes we have been seeing is an infants interpretation. What you are seeing is the oft executed, oft repeated struggle of power through traditionally used gloves like terrorists, pirates, rouge states, mercenaries, assassins, revolutionaries, etc. I don't know everything, of course, but I strongly believe in the power of logic and deduction. Can you really believe in a worldwide Islamic conspiracy to take over the world by making flashy but ultimately insignificant bombings on civilians all over the world? The Islamic states, themselves, don't have the power to control their own territories, let alone take over the world. Why would they invite aggression from the titans of the world by bombing people or even encouraging it? To put it into perspective, even the US goes out of its way to keep it's operations secret and it is extremely powerful. When it can't keep it secret, it goes out of it's way to create as much positive spin as possible. However, terrorists love sending incriminating video's of them at their most barbaric all but daring the west to come invade them for human rights atrocities- legitimizing them on almost every scale. It's what detectives call an "orgy of evidence". Doesn't...make...sense... If anything, they'd want to minimize coverage and possibly broker deals with the larger powers so that they can concentrate on consolidating their power in the local region and growing their power base on the international stage like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, and others. But the thing I would have to stress is that religion is never the driving force behind imperialism. Religion is used to support imperialism. Islam is not the problem. I would say the problem is with both western agents and Middle Eastern agents working in some sort of tandem to the detriment of both western and middle eastern civilians, soldiers, etc. It's all a game and the common life is expendable on both sides.
I can get on board once we stop making the Muslim religion the 'problem' and concentrate on the radicalization. Radical anything is dangerous to society. We have to concentrate on the groups, ISIS, Al-Qaida, etc. and let the moderate islamists fight the religious indoctrination war. They have as much or more at stake in defeating the fundamentalist sects.
Radical Islamist Jihadists are bent on destroying us. We need to wipe out ISIS, Al-Qaida, etc. The time has come.
