People are lazy...stop complaining and open your own business

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  1. danielpalos

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    I believe business will simply need to find new equilibriums. Why complain about structural forms of unemployment that benefit Persons and improve our Standard of living; instead of favoring structural forms of unemployment that merely favors the bottom line.

    The Firms that remain will be more efficient at that new wage level. "Wage slavery" merely so the rich can get richer, faster; is not my idea of promoting the general welfare.

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    work harder, dear.
     
  2. erayp

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    Income is highly volatile and should not to be counted on at all!

    MAIN REASONS TO FOCUS ON NET WORTH - The government goes after income, not wealth. We have a progressive tax system in America. The more you make, the more the government will take away.

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    Honey, you don't make sense. At $15 an hour I'll have to fire them.

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    Nope, it makes more sense to fire them.
     
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    As do most. That doesn't really tell me much.
     
  4. DZero

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    How could "most people" own a small business, there has to be workers for every one business. If for every business owner, there is several workers, then most people were not small business owners.
    Free country? The U.S. economic freedom has decreased over time, stop blaming everything on laziness.
     
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    You have spent all this time arguing with me and have yet to look up what I'm actually advocating, am I right?

    People do not deserve to have great lives if they can't contribute to society. I am kind in not letting them die. Others would have them killed, and you would encourage them to live care-free lives, instead--both postilions are nuts.

    Here is something that you need to understand:

    Capitalism has done more for humanity than any single ideology in the history of the world. You act as if it is some arbitrary nonsense that can be dismissed with ease.
     
  6. danielpalos

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    It tells me everything i need to know. What is not covered by the theory of supply and demand; it is based on the laws of supply and demand.
     
  7. danielpalos

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    I believe business will simply need to find new equilibriums.

    Why complain about structural forms of unemployment that benefit Persons and improve our Standard of living; instead of favoring structural forms of unemployment that merely favors the bottom line?

    The Firms that remain will be more efficient at that new wage level.

    "Wage slavery" or competing with labor from the third world as that form of "race to the bottom" merely so the rich can get richer, faster; is not my idea of promoting the general welfare.
     
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    Here's the kicker and you won't like it. Raise it to $15 and I'll fire them, period

    Ok go back to begging and name calling as if that solves anything lol. You're posts really do make you look childish.
     
  9. danielpalos

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    I was merely "requiting" the "mantra of the right", dear.

    in any case, with fourteen dollar an hour unemployment compensation, labor should not have to care what silliness capitalists are up to, merely for the sake of profit.
     
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    Profit is what pays wages and taxes ....that pay unemployment. You fail to understand that apparently.
     
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    I don't fail to understand most anything, eventually. We are talking about improving our Standard of living. Why do you believe nations with very low wages, are third world?

    I believe business will simply need to find new equilibriums.

    Why complain about structural forms of unemployment that benefit Persons and improve our Standard of living; instead of favoring structural forms of unemployment that merely favors the bottom line?

    The Firms that remain will be more efficient at that new wage level.

    "Wage slavery" or competing with labor from the third world as that form of "race to the bottom" merely so the rich can get richer, faster; is not my idea of promoting the general welfare.
     
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    are you aware of the real costs of employing? Employers have to pay into employee's SS and worker's comp. Given all the other costs, training, uniforms etc., employees typically cost their employers 40% more than the face value of their pay. So while he's paying his employees $12/hr, it's actually costing him $16.8/hr. Raising min wage to $15/hr actually increases his costs to $21/hr, forgetting the other costs like brick and mortar.

    So raising min wage $3 actually raises hourly costs of the employer to $9/hr ABOVE what people think he is currently paying. And you think $9/hr, per employee, is just "a couple bucks a week"? That's $360/employee, per week. If he has five employees, that's $1800/wk. Per year, that's nearly $100,000 in costs beyond what you seem to think he is actually bearing, and that's "just a couple bucks"?

    btw, raising the min wage to $15/hr costs an employer with $12/hr employees $44,000/yr, just if they have 5 employees. Again, you might not know this, but most - the vast majority of - small business owners don't take home even six figures. There is a reason why Wal Mart likes your policies, and that's because Wal Mart is big enough to cope with the artificially added costs, but small businesses are not.
     
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    I believe small business will simply need to find new equilibriums.

    Why complain about structural forms of unemployment that benefit Persons and improve our Standard of living; instead of favoring structural forms of unemployment that merely favors the bottom line?

    The Firms that remain will be more efficient at that new wage level.

    "Wage slavery" or competing with labor from the third world as that form of "race to the bottom" merely so the rich can get richer, faster; is not my idea of promoting the general welfare.
     
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    This raises a simple question. Why start a business if you are not trying to improve the bottom line?
     
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    Wow, employing people to help with an elderly person is making a profit. You obviously don't understand anything
     
  16. danielpalos

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    I believe small business will simply need to find new equilibriums.

    some businesses are simply unsound, from inception.

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    most small business are very inefficient. that is usually a management problem. why do you believe you are worth what you take in?
     
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    Small businesses need money period. They show a decent profit they survive if not they fail.
     
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    Aside from all that...THIS guy is saying he'd stick his mother in a home to "save" $120 a week. And he brags about how wealthy he is.

    Pffffftttt

    I own a small business...and I'd "notice" an increase like that but it sure as hell wouldn't put me out of business.Oh yea...and I ALREADY pay $15/hr...because I value my employees...they keep my business running...and I need them to stay and be happily producing.
     
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    Good, they can come work for you.

    Bottom line is I ain't paying $15 an hour, Democrats are supplying us with plenty of Mexicans that will work for less. :)
     
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    Fact is that the corporations have made it exceedingly difficult for a mom and pop business to compete. They do this mostly by buying politicians and paying to have regulations passed that make it almost impossible for at small business to comply with governmental regulations. Remove 80% of the regulations on business and you would see a resurgence of small business putting the big corporation in a tough spot.....
     
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    If you have employees that you're paying $15/hr, they're probably not entry level unskilled workers. Boeing pays its employees almost all over $15/hr, but it isn't because they value their employees, its because that's the value of their employees labor.
     
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    Yes, structural unemployment happens regardless. The Firms that survive or are established at the new equilibrium will be more efficient.

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    The capital ethic; be as cheap as you can merely for the bottom line.
     
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    15 dollars an hour or twenty , makes no difference. Prices will rise and buying power will adjust. So in reality people will be no better off.
     
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    Firms will have to adjust to the new, higher equilibrium. It is one way US labor can better compete in a global economy.
     
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    Very true.

    Simple economics.
     

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