Trump catches up with crooked Hillary in electoral votes...

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NEW YORK (Reuters) - An election analysis conducted in the Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project shows that the race has tightened considerably over the past few weeks, with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump projected to win Florida, an essential battleground state, if the election were held today.

    The project, which is based on a weekly tracking poll of more than 15,000 Americans, shows that the 2016 presidential race could end in a photo finish on Nov. 8, with the major-party candidates running nearly even in the Electoral College, the body that ultimately selects the president.

    The States of the Nation project, which delivers a weekly tally of support for the candidates in every state, shows that the race has tightened in several traditional battlegrounds. Pennsylvania has been moved from a likely win for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to a tossup; Ohio has been moved from a tossup to a likely win for Clinton.

    And Florida is now considered a likely win for the Republican nominee, with 50 percent support for Trump to 46 percent support for Clinton. If the election were held today, the project estimates that Clinton has a 60 percent chance of winning by 18 electoral votes. Last week, the project estimated that Clinton had a 83 percent chance of winning the election.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/race-tightens-projected-u-electoral-college-vote-reuters-114535676.html

    Remember folks-this was supposed to be a coronation for Hillary.
     
  2. Balto

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    Even by some freak incident Trump wins, what do you realistically think Trump will get accomplished? It will be up to Democrats, for the good of America, to act as obstructionists in a Trump Administration. The wall is a long shot, attacking Ford's CEO, Mark Fields, isn't going to take anyone anywhere, and if goes as planned, Trump would be a war criminal by the end of a first term, having no regard for the Geneva Convention (no, not everything is legal in war).

    So, honestly, what is Trump going to accomplish, except to end up being a war criminal that makes Bush look innocent, and be one hell of a lameduck by the end of his first term, if even that far.
     
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    Florida doesn't matter this election cycle neither does Ohio. Trump could win both and still lose the election.
     
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    In your point of view, since it will be a freak accident that Trump will win, it will also be a freak accident that he gets anything done.

    I think you will have an exciting future of revising your thinking over the next 8 years.

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    Wow, I wonder what old Gorn Captain is going to post about tomorrow.
     
  6. Andrew Jackson

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    Hillary is STILL a LOCK.
     
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    Don't worry. Trump's not really going to run for president and if he did he wouldn't win one primary. Every poll proved it. :roflol:
     
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    I won't give that a shot, but since you asked it,

    Same question put to you only in this case Hillary won?

    Same scenario entirely.

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    Pray and pray hard. She won't pray, so you do it.
     
  9. EggKiller

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    Realistic or not trump is our last chance to begin to break the cycle of professional politicians engaged in crony capatilism that plagues this countries economy. Just a small chance for small change. Of one thing I'm sure. There will be no others following in his footsteps that offer this hope. There are no great leaders waiting in the wings that America once turned too. If there are they'll never get past the establishment that picks our leaders for us.

    Besides making Hillary and friends filthy rich just what do you think she will accomplish?
     
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    That is largely how it will play out.

    By the end of the first year, Democrats will have been working openly with the GOP establishment to thwart Trump's half baked ideas. In return, they'll have to give on some Democratic agenda items, something they're not used to

    The agenda of the far right wing is not America's agenda. Their issues seldom poll well with most Americans. Trump will be easily swayed by a far more liberal agenda than his knuckle dragging audience really wants in order to score any sort of victory with Congress.

    In the end Congress will wind up dictating Trump's domestic agenda, while hte fool himself runs around mugging for the cameras, which is his only political talent.
     
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    Crony capitalism will run amok in the Trump adminstration. Self dealing is his life's work.

    It is both unreasonable and ridiculous to expect a man as greedy, venal, and crooked as Trump to end any sort of influence peddling or crony capitalism.

    I expect that the Trump presidency will be openly for sale from day one. That's the way the man has conducted his entire career.
     
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    Yes and since thinking is something that all too many leftists haven't done during the last eight years, it should be good by way of mental health exercise.

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    Yep the Left's sainted Nate Silver certainly dropped the ball on that one.
     
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    I'll agree he understands and has participated in crony capatilism. You'll also notice I never said he would end it. My hope is he sticks to his word of disrupting it by bringing it to light. I'll admit it's a small chance. Good luck convincing anyone Hillary is a champion of the people, country, economy when she's already been bought and paid for.
     
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    And the tragedy here, involves the fact that not enough people are connected to reality sufficiently to understand exactly what is at stake. We have been frog boiled over decades, and what got cooked took away the ability for americans to in great numbers to prosper by their work. For that has been taken away from just average people, those people who could never be high tech specialists, lawyers, doctors, the professional class. No longer can americans prosper and live the American dream by their labor, for labor has been undermined, and relegated to what you send to dirt poor people somewhere overseas so they can be exploited for cents on the dollar wages in order to max out elite profits. Of course free trade was not sold that way, as any good salesman would never be truthful about what he is selling.

    The change in our economic model, the schemes that accomplished that was done for the primary reason of maxing out profits of the banking cabal, MNCs, and the elites who own them. This was a totally different philosophy that was behind the post great depression economy which created the largest middle class in world history, and gave us the American dream, which people all over the world still thinks exists in America as it did for so long. But that America no longer exists and we have birthed and are still birthing new generations which will never know that America. I know of so many young people who even with a college degree have what is equivalent to a house payment over their heads, student loans, as they cannot move out and start their own lives and have to live with parents or other older family members who were successful under our old economic model and have a house for these young people to get shelter. The future of the millennials and the generations that follow them is bleak, and hope is a joke for many of these americans.

    Trump, is probably the last great hope that working people have. And so many people, especially Clinton supporters, and establishment GOPhers, either are disconnected from what our reality is, or they simply have theirs and do not give a damn about the younger generations being devastated by free trade, and what this scheme will do to the people in America as it plays itself out, and TPP the death knell that seals the deal. It is no coincidence that free trade could not be questioned, until sanders and trump broke that taboo. It is not a coincident that investigative journalism never, not once, did a serious story on what this scheme has done to average americans, as it like a cancer is slowly killing the middle class. The remedy they say for our new economy, is to get the education that will allow you to enter into the professional class. But that class was never huge because only exceptional people can ever get into those professions. And after all of the people that do have the capacity to be professionals, fill those jobs, there are only a few hundred million americans left who cannot do those jobs. And for those people, until this scheme of free trade was given us, they were able to prosper by their work in providing America which what we consumed in goods and services for living wages. But those are the jobs that were shipped off to slave labor, instead of living wages for those workers.

    So, trump, in wanting to reverse this cruel insanity and treason on the American working people, which is most of us, as sander was, is probably the last hope. And not only are the disconnected voters trying to destroy him, but the system itself, ruled over by the banking cabal and MNCs and the elites who own them must destroy him, because he is a threat to this scheme of free trade, which has enriched themselves like nothing since the last gilded age. And we are talking about trillions here, that the elites could lose of trump wins and goes after free trade. But those trillions also represent the cost of the end of the American dream, where hard work allow americans to prosper and have security. The end of the American dream happened because it put trillions and will continue to do that into the pockets of the elites. And not like any of this is new, for it is what has always happened to the slaves of the master. People were enslaved for the financial gain of the elites. Slavery was abolished, but the mentality that created it, sustained it, has never went away. It is the mentality behind free trade. When americans made what we consumed, these jobs exploded the size of our middle class. Mexicans and communists Chinese who work for MNCs are not middle class, they are working poor. They are not paid enough to buy what they are making. So, the old master slave mentality. So, it is clear what drove this scheme of free trade. And both parties are free traders, only sanders and trump were not. And the system with the help of disconnected and uncaring voters will keep this treasonous system in place.
     
  15. US Conservative

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    How no doubt Hillary is doing great. It will sound like Baghdad bob.
     
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    I find the mentality that repeats the "Crooked Hillary" name calling of Trumps 3rd grade stupidity while completely ignoring his current and historic fraud activities to be ignorantly pathetic. The guy has built a fortune defrauding banks, people, creditors and business for decades and she apparently has an email problem.

    WAKE UP TRUMPHUMPERS
    .....do a little research!
     
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    Ohio is leaning Democrat now? It was looking Republican last I heard.
     
  18. US Conservative

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    Crooked Hillary is kaput.
     
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    I'm think the OP probably misstated the Ohio thing. Trump is leading there in most polls.
     
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    The words you use have defined yourself quite well, not so well those you are ranting against.
     
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    Let's see...
    Infrastructure will be improved. Taxpayers may have to pay a couple pennies more, but it will keep more Flint's from happening. I don't know why we decide to settle for crippling infrastructure. That, in itself, will improve the lives overtime of many Americans.
    Make the process of becoming a naturalized citizen, for both illegal and legal citizens, much easier, and less time consuming.

    Those are just a couple. More down to earth solutions that trying to force automakers to stay in the US, or getting a country to pay for a wall to isolate America.
     
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    Monday the 26th looms large...
     
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    Ya think?
     
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    Obama/Hillary/Demos have been promising this for 8 years, and have utterly failed to deliver so we are to believe Hillary making same promises? Sorry, this nonsense of accepting empty promises for decades forgotten the moment an election is over only works with loyal Democratic base only, the rest of us are not that gullible

    It's already a reasonably straightforward process for legal immigrants. Making it easy for illegals is a bad thing. The only thing that should be streamlined for illegals is their
    capture and deportation process
     

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