November 9, 2016 - January 19, 2017... How to weld America back together?

I do believe that the USA can begin to heal and come back together no matter who
you all decide to have as your next President.

If.... you decide to elect Mr. Donald Trump then in my opinion several of the potential
keys to first healing the G. O. P. itself would obviously be:

1. The relationship between the USA with Israel

2. An alternative theory on climate change that makes sense to conservatives.

3. Mr. Mitt Romney and the State of Utah.

.......

If... you decide to elect Secretary Clinton to be your President....
then she needs to begin a process to heal the Democratic Party as well
as the relationship that her party has with the segment of The Donald's supporters
that she would tend to consider "deplorable"......

... the obvious key to accomplishing that goal.... would be conservatives who
are able to pass certain litmus tests that would make them significantly
LESS deplorable to President Clinton and her team?!

And although she may not be willing to give him credit for his courage at this time...
President Clinton would do well to take another serious look at something that
The Donald has proposed that has enormous potential to
heal her own party.

I have read that there is some sort of rule that requires the Federal Reserve to
PAY BACK into the treasury...... THE BULK of the interest earned as the Fed loans
money to the USA government......... If this is being done well.......... THEN HOW DID THE USA
GET TO BE 18 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT?!

By tackling something controversial like this.... President Clinton could potential win
back some respect from Democrats who would tend to prefer Bernie.


http://www.politicalforum.com/opinion-polls/464333-trump-calls-auditing-fed.html
Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed

 

I am no economist or expert in this or any other field.....
but IF dad2three is correct........ then obviously something is wrong
somewhere and Americans deserve to be informed as to what is wrong.....
why it is happening.... and HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM?

http://www.politicalforum.com/united-states/211515-who-actually-owns-fed-why-must-end-2.html

Thread: Who Actually Owns the Fed and Why That Must End

 

Now you have a whole new ball game.....
one of the ways that the DNC could perhaps pacify a lot of their members would be to
dump Hillary..... by coming out with evidence that she rigged the nomination process against
Mr. Bernie Sanders.

So Bernie's name would be on the electronic ballots........
and the printed ballots... although they have Hillary's name on them....
could still count for Bernie, (hopefully)?!

 

You took the "Deplorable's" comment out of context. Anyone who is sexist, racist or Islamophobic is deplorable, and the only people who deserve to be offended by Mrs. Clinton's statement are those who match the description to a T. Trump's turbulent financial history would be enough to say that he is not suited to handle the National Debt.

 

PURIFICATION must occur. Politics and society are toxic to unalienable rights and freedom.

Nothing will heal the nation without puification.

 

I'm going to spend at least Nov 9 - Jan 20 going through all the smug, entitled posts from Clinton supporters on here. Sipping a cocktail, laughing at their arrogance.

Personally I think there is no stopping it. Just sit back and enjoy the country fall apart. The left can have California and NY. Maybe IL.

 

I don't see there being any more possibility of a great coming together after this election, than there was after Obama's first win.

As a matter if fact, whomever wins, I see more of the same, or worse.

 

So then you think that Secretary Clinton was incorrect to encourage people like Donald Trump to campaign for the office of President?

 

There will be no welding America back together. The country will continue to become more divided and balkanized as time goes on, and that's a good thing, IMO.

 

Sorry, but the two-headed monster doesn't care about healing anything. It consumes and maintains its power by any means.

Trump doesn't come off like the healing type, so don't put your hope in him.

The only healing I've ever known is God's healing. I've never felt healing by government or anyone working for the government.

 

When Americans stop being sheep and start using the left half of their brain and realize that the framers made a natural, logical agreement law, and agree amongst one another upon prime constitutiuonal intent, creating the most lawful agreement possible, THEN the people will be one again.

These declarations comprise the agreement that can make "the people the rightful masters of the congress and the courts."

As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you
understand, agree and accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent
that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or
abolish government destructive to the ideal of our unalienable rights?

As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you
understand, agree, accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent
that the ultimate purpose of free speech be to enable the unity
adequate to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to the ideal of our
unalienable rights?

 

The thing is, we have 30-40% of the population that rejects the Constitution and considers the framers nothing more than slave owners. Their oath would mean nothing.

 

As long as the Trump supporters fall in line (after TRUMP'S LOSS), I don't anticipate any problems.

 

exactly, they know what Clinton meant by "Deplorable's" imo

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I agree, so many think we should have the privilege to have the rights.....

no, if the rights do not protect EVERYONE, they protect no one

Republicans been denying ex-felons the right to vote, own guns, ect... slippery slope

 

Who's oath?

So that is 30% which can swing easy to another opinion with a more logical position based in the fact that all of the ugliness of the Americans government is after the civil war, except that which caused the civil war.

The opinion based in slavery is "all or nothing thinking" and a cognitive distortion. Seem's like assuming it is actually controlling is not logical.

 

She was probably saying it in jest. It would be like saying, "I would like to see Kanye West or Lindsey Lohan run for President." She, nor do a lot of able-bodied Americans would believe that people would put emotion over logic, and nominate Donald Trump for president based off of anger, and not rational, thought-out thinking on important issues. If people had nominated based on rational, thought-out thinking on these important issues, we probably would have Rubio or another Bush running against Clinton, and Trump would have dropped out faster than Carson or Fiorina. Trump would have come in at 1% and go out with 1% in the polls back in Spring of this year.

 

This reasoning could have just as easily been used to explain Obama's nomination/election in '08, and '12.

 

I have to say I agree, this country is coming apart at the seams and there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it. The left has the courts and the faux outrage, the right has the people and the faith in God, but who will win or whether the country will split down the middle is anyone's guess.

 

Another way to look at it is to recognize that the huge
increase in interest rates played a big role in his first
bankruptcy so..... in a way.... his history is PERFECT for the production of
another President willing to tackle flaws in Federal Reserve policy.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

President John F. Kennedy also attempted to tackle flaws in Federal Reserve policy.

 

And what if he wins?

 

US society has been divided long before this election. It will not be "welded" anytime soon.

 

Ahhhhhhh.... but don't underestimate The White Horse President / semi-reality science fiction President Mitt... who was inaugurated on January 20, 2013....... who takes the drastic measure of appointing a famous / infamous..... Democrat... to the office of Secretary of State...... which could put a whole new spin on the events of the past four years?????!


http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ould-utah-state-dollar-save-usa-dollar-2.html

 

We're permanently divided between European socialists and those that believe in traditional American values.

Nothing can change the path we're on.

 

As long as Americans refuse to use their exclusive right to define constitutional intent what you post will likely be true. Then they'll lose the right, then chaos will grow.

That would be "all or nothing thinking" a cognitive distortion. Our lawful and peaceful revolution is a path changer, but Americans will have to use their exclusive right and stop acting like sheep.

 

WE HAVE:
An entrenched system of corruption in Washington, whose primary activity is to trade in influence/power/money. This is like having a crook in charge of making and enforcing rules- and expecting some kind of positive result. The problem is not that Washington couldn't do it's job, it's that they won't, because the priorities of the congress and key leaders have more important things ahead of actually putting the national interest first. This is not new, it's the SOP for congress- no president in my lifetime has openly challenged it. But of course, all of those were already part of it, career politicians with legal degrees. That is one of the things that makes this election so vastly different, why it is being fought by the entrenched elite like it was an apocalyptic threat- and to them, it could well be. Trump has not sold out in advance, as every other candidate has been for decades. That does strike fear in these people. .

No president is going to effectively improve what happens in government until the most important basic action is put in place- and that is taking out the trash. There must be a standard, just as there is in any well-run company, that removes any employee that violates the institution's ethics or harms it's image- and that must take place immediately, not years away at the next election. Members of Congress are chosen by the voters- but the voters don't pay them. They are in fact employees of the federal government- OUR employees. We must find a way to handle these employees just as a good company management would, and remove those who corrupt us, and quickly.

That will be the primary challenge that any new president must face- find a way to bring about true reform so the system can be run to serve the people and nation as a whole- to put the nation first. It's is possible, of course. You simply can't run an honest operation without an effective way to keep your key people honest, and that means not tolerating violations of their oath of office, of high ethical standards, and Fiduciary Duty. The only way to do this is to remove those who choose to violate, immediately- as in You have 24 hours to clean out your office. Presently the only people who have the power to do this is congress itself- and they have only found two members that deserved to be so removed in the last 150 years. It's time that power was placed in the hands of a citizens oversight panel. This is totally possible, but would take a great deal of public pressure as well as a leader who would endorse and support it.

So- If Trump wins, there is some chance of that happening- I know that he is aware of a plan and movement to do so.

If Hillary wins, there is zero chance for meaningful reform. Not only will corruption continue- it will expand under new management that thrives on it.

There will indeed be a difference.