Trump To Chicago - Fix Crime Or I Will Send In Feds

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  1. Questerr

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    Except those trends predated him as Mayor.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except that those trends were country wide and NY did far better that other cities that didn't institute Rudy's policies.
    Read the following again and try to comprehend.


    "During the 1990s, crime rates in New York City dropped dramatically, even more than in the United States as a whole. Violent crime declined by more than 56 percent in the City, compared to about 28 percent in the nation as whole. Property crimes tumbled by about 65 percent, but fell only 26 percent nationally."
     
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    We could, but you're obviously desperately trying to find any means by which to justify Chicago murder rates as being somehow acceptable. 2017 trends indicate an even bloodier year than 2016, and your assertion that federal officers lack the authority, or ability to impact violent crime is laughable.
     
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    Everyone drink! Another crazed liberal who refers to trump as a Nazi, but got offended when people called Obama stupid!

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    Fix Chicago? I thought Obama was a community organizer with a specialty in Chicago! Send him in there for a little hope and change.
     
  5. Questerr

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    How am I trying to say the murder rate in Chicago is acceptable? I'm countering the idiotic hyperbole that it's worse than a war zone.
     
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    Pretty sure it was YOU who just said Trump is a Nazi.....Yep, confirmed.
     
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    Very mature! The old "nu uh"! hahahahaha

    This is going to be a long 4 years for you. There's no safe space anymore
     
  8. PrincipleInvestment

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    When 4,000 citizens are wounded, and 700 killed by gunfire, in a single year, war zone is what best describes Chicago. Your posts #2, #7, reveal your agenda.
     
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    Actual war zones are considerably worse than that.

    Chicago is fruits of Reagan's drug prohibition.
     
  10. PrincipleInvestment

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    Chicago violence is financed by entitlement checks that purchase both drugs and weapons.
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ridiculous. Drug profits finance weapons in Chicago. "Entitlements" are a drop in the bucket compared to the billions of black market dollars that roll through.

    You think it's primarily people in Chicago that are buying those drugs? Chicago is a TRAFFICKING hub.
     
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    Black market dollars are the culmination of street level drug transaction profits consisting of individual purchases made with federal dollars.
     
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    And a lot of that money comes from Trump's buddies' parties on Wall Street.

    Do you seriously think poor people on welfare are the only people who buy and use drugs in America?
     
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    No, addiction affects everyone, and that's exactly why legalization is not in anyones interests. The fact that you say Chicago is a "hub" is all the more reason to dispatch federal officers to Chicago.
     
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    My reading is that big city crime is caused by drug gangs killing each other, so why not just let 'em get on with it?
    Ordinary citizens will be fine as long as they stay out of the crossfire in the battle areas..:)
    Maybe TV news should carry warning maps like this-

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    The hub will just shift to somewhere else. So long as people demand drugs, the black market will remain.

    As for addiction affecting everyone, by that logic, should we go back to banning alcohol?
     
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    any crime can BE federal, if they want to so designate it. It can be a hate crime, or a civil rights crime, etc.
     
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    Well I have been reading the amounts killed in Aleppo by the terrorist attacks in the government protected zone, and they did not come to that many a day. ..nor the amount the terrorists killed when they were trying to leave through the safe passages. As for NYC, are you kidding about it trending down before Guliani? Hey, I lived in NYC, so enough of this black is white, and white is black stuff. There are human lives at stake here....or haven't you realized that?
     
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    Trump doesn't have any buddies doing or dealing in drugs. You're confusing Trump with Obama.
     
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    Chicago is a cesspool of corruption and lazy. Without crime in the streets, no rational citizen of Chicago would ever tolerate the laughable taxation they endure there. The insanity of Chicago city worker overhead, retirement benefits, union corruption all need to get paid for somehow. And that "how' is crime.

    Folks get scared, they pay more in taxes. It's like mobster extortion. It's like a dimmer switch. You want less crime, you pay more money. You don't pay more money, you get more crime.
     
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    By send in the Feds I am assuming Trump means the FBI. The FBI could have jurisdiction over gangs investigations through RICO statutes so I can further assume they're probably already there to some extent. This would simply involve strengthening them and I don't really see how any Mayor would have a serious objection there.

    The idea of sending in the National Guard is silly beyond silly. In the first place the Governor of the State calls the NG, in the second there's Posse Comitatus, and in the third it just wouldn't work. Gangs aren't roaming the streets killing random people, rather they're battling each other and innocents are getting caught in the crossfire
     
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    Well, about all he can do if he sends in fed or military is start arresting and/or shooting citizens on the spot.
    Wanna talk about a potential war?
     
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    Let's hope the hub shifts to Mexico City where it belongs. As for banning alcohol, maybe. No ones really mounted a national effort to bring back prohibition, but I wouldn't petition against it.
     
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    What's so sad is that liberals like yourself are perfectly okay with current affairs in Chicago.

    Have your superheroes, Barak, Madonna, Rosie or any of the rest EVER protested in the city of Chicago demanding that gang members be tried and condemned for killing other Blacks and Hispanics?
     
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    The problem with Democrats is that they have made it a self serving party, rather than having actual policies... so they do whatever benefits them financially. The Republicans although not as completely self serving, have lost their way since the neo cons infiltrated it through Cheney... who himself might have been influenced by Nuland...

    Donald Trump is really a third party candidate running under the Republican ticket.
     

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