Trump To Chicago - Fix Crime Or I Will Send In Feds

I already posted proof in this thread. Giuliani was elected in 1994. Crime was already trending down in NYC from 1990 on.

 

There's already a gang war in Chicago and it may take the NG to stop it

 

Here's an excerpt from in depth analysis on New York City and who and what was involved to clean it up, and the methods that were used.

Clearly, Giuliani and Bratton were heroes in reclaiming public spaces. But Glazer, Sturz, Gunn, Kiley, Biederman, and others were stalwarts as well. They set the stage for what was to follow. Current mayor Michael Bloomberg and police commissioner Ray Kelly also deserve kudos; rather than overturning the Bratton/Giuliani innovations and going their own way—as new administrators are wont to do—they adopted, refined, and strengthened them.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-new-york-became-safe-full-story-13197.html​

 

Liberals recognize crime in certain areas as what it is, mainly, (not entirely but mainly) a product of poverty and whatever factors keep/put people in it. Poverty is a societal problem and liberals are against poverty everywhere

 

That's a gang war, not a war with the US gov't.

 

This is from Wikipedia:

During his first term as mayor of New York City, Giuliani hired a new police commissioner, William Bratton, who applied the broken windows theory of urban decay, which holds that minor disorders and violations create a permissive atmosphere that leads to further and more serious crimes that can threaten the safety of a city. Within several years, Giuliani was widely credited for major improvements in the city's quality of life, and in lowering the rate of violent crimes.​

 

its going to happen. two birds with one stone. Clean up the streets and deport illegals all in one operation.

done deal

 

Read what I wrote about Guliani and Bratton and how they applied the theory that an atmosphere of 'permissiveness' leads to more serious crime.

 

The poverty can't be solved in inner cities such as Chicago, without curbing the crime first. How can you build up an area and give people jobs when stores and other business' are broken into. Trump promised to help the families living in places like Chicago, but he can't do it unless the crime is tackled first.

 

Liberals can't understand the root cause of crime is not poverty, but it lies in demographics, a morally debased culture and a weak criminal justice system.

If crime was the product of poverty, then there would be no rich star athletes like OJ and rappers like Tupac Shakur committing crimes.

Kennedy Family members would so well adjusted and content that they would never take a golf club and beat the neighbor's kid to death.

Liberals are against individual accountability everywhere.

 

As of 2016 Operation Iraqi Freedom cost us a total of 4400 dead US troops.

You have that many people dying every single year in Chicago. So yes, Chicago is far worse than the Iraq war zone.

 

What is with you Rightists going out of your way to cherry pick Iraqi deaths and ignore the deaths of Iraqi civilians?

 

Oh I agree, Muslim on Muslim violence is out of control in the ME. Another good reason to keep them out of the US.

Muslims have been slaughtering each other since 600AD. No reason for us to allow it here.

ISIS alone is killing thousands per month.

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

 

Thank you for agreeing that Chicago's violence is no where near an actual warzone's.

 

trump vows action. Rom said he welcomes it and is blaming Indiana for the gun violence LOL.

looks like Trump is going to have to fix this mess from the sounds of it since Emanuel is not going to take responsibility LOL. What a crook.

 

It is when you look at the loss of life of American citizens.

 

For that comparison to be accurate we should only be comparing the deaths of only security personnel in Chicago.

 

Except the black on black crime phenomenon goes beyond a simple "poverty" excuse. Hispanics have an almost identical level of poverty in their community and they commit a fraction of the violent crime that blacks do.

 

That is certainly true, and the "War On Drugs", like most wars, is a phony war.

 

i am sure lots of things seem phony when your a habitual drug user. problem is when reality hits you like a hammer and you cant get your fix.

 

I was careful to say that not all crime is from poverty, but MOST is, the science is clear and unequivocal on that.

I prefer that the government fight crime with scientifically derived and approved methods, not just saying "everybody gotta get Jee-AY-sus" which is basically what you're proposing. Some people from ALL backgrounds succeed, that doesn't mean that background is conducive to success

 

You may have missed my point. The "War On Drugs" is phony because its objective is not victory. Most wars since 1945 have been phony wars.

 

FBI and CIA have a lot of power in America's + Military chief Pentagon in reality business.

 

That is correct.

The most Dump can do is to order in federalized National Guard troops. But such an action would likely be legally overturned by a federal court unless a declaration of a national state of emergency can be justified.

 

thats due to government corruption not because drugs are not bad for you.

look... drugs are bad for you. some worse than others. We live in a society where people think killing the unborn is OK and everyone is entitled to a living wage just for existing. Legalizing drugs is a bad idea right now. maybe in the future when people are responsible and we have a better moral standing but from a sociological standpoint its a death spiral for our society.

its like abortion... pro life or pro choice... the sociological impacts of condoning abortion are horrendous on a society.