We Canadians owe Americans an apology for how we behaved during Revolutionary War!

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  1. Jim Rockford

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    The hillbilly survival instinct that made you move to Canada is proving to be a good one.��
     
  2. DennisTate

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    Good point!

    Both us British as well as you Americans have committed terrible crimes over these past five centuries.

    Posts #99 and 100 here get into some of greatest evils........... This is quite appropriate to become more aware of for St. Patrick's Day!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=445709&page=10&p=1065934358#post1065934358
    "Black gangs are super predators with no conscience, no empathy !" - Hillary Clinton

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    This is especially true as a general global warming trend sure made this winter one of the nicest that I can remember. I am 56.
     
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    The American Revolution was a creation of chance. If the same objections were raised against any government today, most (on both left and right) would be resolutely opposed to independence. Even if we recreated some of the more serious transgressions of the British against the colonists: taxation without representation, prohibition of firearms, import taxes, etc - the vast majority would simply continue to worship the state.

    Because it's a very different world. The modern US is without question more totalitarian and centralized than Great Britain was back in 1776.
     
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    On the other hand about a century later a massive decrease in the money supply was tolerated.

    http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty49.htm
     
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    LOL, no, modern day Canadians most assuredly do NOT owe Americans an apology re: the Revolution. What is called "Canada" today was called the colony of the province of Quebec at the time of the revolution - and was attacked by the Continental Army in 1775. This attack failed.....

    What a strange notion.....
     
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    But..... if large banking interests deceived the average Canadian into cooperating in a plan to mess up the USA economy...… in a sense that makes us Canadians accomplices.......(perhaps ignorant accomplices......but nonetheless..... accomplices)...… in the series of events that led to the assassination of both President Lincoln as well as President Kennedy???


    http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

    John F. Kennedy

     
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    The reasoning as to why decisions are made can be many....... but they can all be important.

    Your idea is part of the whole picture...... but what she wrote can also be a part of it as well..............

    Now...... we are facing another crisis and I do hope that my nation can respond to this better than we did two and a half centuries ago.........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=391591&page=6&p=1066096961#post1066096961
     
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    But..... we Brits had the most political power.........
    ..... and it does seem that our ideas on central banking policy were about maintaining influence over America....... that can be seen as unethical at this time.......
     
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    But..... what if many of the issues that are being addressed by Mr. Bernie Sanders
    cannot be understood unless we take a look at what was happening in 1750?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=456761&p=1066192088#post1066192088
    Is the Rabbi correct that one third of Bernie supporters will NOT vote for Hillary?
     
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    Well........ if our great, great, great, great grandparents.....
    were seriously in error on important subjects and made decisions
    that were really bad for both Americans as well as for Canadians.....

    then I am free to claim some responsibility for the errors made by my
    ancestors.... . in order to get across an important point in a time in
    history when we may be facing somewhat similar questions.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=464333&page=3&p=1066587544#post1066587544

    Thread: Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed

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    I am a Canadian..... and I feel that we will never be able to repay the United States veterans who always come to back us up when we get ourselves into a squabble, such as WWI and WWII. If America had entered WWII six months later than they did....... thousands, perhaps tens of thousands more Canadians would have died in Europe.

    America entered the wary on December 1, 1941, if the USA had waited until June 1, 1942 to join the war effort, an astonishing number of
    Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans and other allies would have tried our best to hold up
    our end of the stick...... .which would have meant them dying, or being wounded, taken prisoner or MIA.

    Thank you America for entering WWII on December 1, 1941.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_States_during_World_War_II

    My Uncle William A. Malloy died in Italy on January 2, 1945.

    He had been wounded already and could have returned home to Nova Scotia, but
    he knew that the need for recruits was so great that he went back to the front.

    I was told that he was in a scout patrol.

    The exact story of how he died was confusing but......
    when my mom read a history book and found out that three of the seven
    members of the Princess Louise Fusiliers who died on January 2, 1945 had
    been killed in friendly fire........
    then she had peace about what had happened!

    Scout patrols are also vulnerable to allied shelling of the German positions.
     
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    But what if our apology.....
    was in the form of some sort of new currency unit......?

    What if the apology was for the equivalent of 20 TRILLION DOLLARS.....
    at least in theory......
    and what if it was planned as a genuine and sincere attempt to pay off the national debt of the USA?

    What if we Canadians would almost certainly gain.....
    far more from this offer than we actually lose?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...servative-party-volunteerism-hour-dollar.html
     
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    we did not have the resources to invade canada and take its oil because the revolutionary war was very hard on Americans, when America defeated england for freedom.

    canada rightfully belongs to America however because it is part of north America, and America allows it to save money for its socialism so that its people can have better lives than us with their 'universal health care' etc...

    for example America gives too much money for canadian oil in trade, and America defends canada with its military since the canadian military is weak and russia would invade it without us.

    if you are a canadian i suggest you look for poor Americans and voluntarily pay them reparations if President Trump is unable to reclaim what is rightfully ours.
     
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    Sure, we sell anything to anyone its called free enterprise. The best Bowie knives were also made in England from Sheffield steel. We also gave you Rounders—Baseball, Netball---Basketball and Rugby---American Football.
    In return we got Mel Gibson as Braveheart, The Scots have never forgiven you for that piece of Hollywood history.
     
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    Firstly, apologizing for something someone else did is about as useful as a poop flavored lollipop.
    Secondly, Canada wasn't a country during our revolutionary war.
    Thirdly, being loyal to your nation of origin is not a gross position.
    Fourth, God has nothing to do with it.
     
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    Yes..... American taxpayers have saved Canadian taxpayers
    an astonishing amount of money on national defence. We did get involved in WWII
    even before America did though...... so we do attempt to hold up our end of the stick.

    I am attempting to set the stage for a real estate boom
    in the rural areas of both the USA and Canada.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/econo...ter-fed-policy-pay-off-usa-national-debt.html
    Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?
    The gifted and rather famous Pastor David Wilkerson had some sort of vision back in 1973 in which
    he was shown that America would eventually have a real estate boom........ but the boom......
    wasn't in or near the cities...... it was more so in the area of the people who
    supported Mr. Donald Trump for President.

    For the record, the title of this thread is a quotation from an interesting article that I feel
    deserves to be taken seriously, but....... I personally do believe that there is a better way to
    do this........ and yes..... the result could be the most massive real estate boom in USA history that
    could well result in the national debt of the USA being paid off in full!
     
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    True.... we were not an independent country until 1867
    but I do believe that the ancestors of us Canadians living here in the year 1750 would have been
    shocked if they had known the full story of what was happening in the USA.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...etary-policy-central-american-revolution.html

    Is it historically accurate that monetary policy was central to American Revolution?
     
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    It is a bit of a sticky wicket. Like claiming slavery was central to the civil war.
    It was, somewhat laughably, about freedom in both respects... and from both sides in the latter case.

    We (Colonists) wanted to be free to govern ourselves. Taxation without representation was the rallying cry, but what the house of Burgesses put forth really harkened back to the Roman empires philosophy. When a nation was conquered, you left an existing government in place, giving deference to the ruler in Rome. England's response was that the house of Burgesses dissolve. The French Indian war was to be paid for by levying taxes on the colonies, which had no representation in parliament... which made us not members of a government, but subjects of it. Serfs. We didn't like that.

    I don't want to get side tracked on the civil war right now, so pretend I didn't say that, as I presume you understand the underlying concept.
     
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    My humble apologies.....
    but there are aspects of the history of the Civil War period,
    (especially the two decades afterward), that are difficult to ignore.


    http://www.michaeljournal.org/artic...story-of-banking-control-in-the-united-states


    To my thinking....
    this sure sounds like the actions of an "Elite" group of people who
    are desperately attempting to maintain control over a group of people who they
    think of as being lesser than them.
     
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    But we haven't forgiven Australia for GIbson and Conspiracy Theories. Are we even with common wealth countries?
     
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    Another explanation is the verdict on the Somerset Case which sent sock waves through the entire Empire because it was seen as the threat of abolition of slavery throughout the Empire.

    Another reason for the revolution was to lift the tyrannical rule of the British of which the colonies were subjected too. This is rubbish, if fact the colonists enjoyed a much better life than their compatriots in the UK. George Washington was an extremely rich man who owned 300 slaves and big plantations as did many of the Founding Fathers and each state had its own council, courts and laws.

    It’s also a fact that the vast number of today’s American ancestors had nothing to do with the revolutionary war; they lived thousands of miles away at the time.
     
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    What do you think of the idea that
    British policy caused a rapid increase in unemployment
    just before the American Revolutionary War?



    http://rense.com/general66/nobeyb.htm


     
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    Don't be too quick to apologize. We may send you Sarah Palin as ambassador.
     

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