Is Christianity really as violent as Islam?

It is what is in the their holy scriptures that form the basis of their ideological drive. There is nothing in the New Testament to provide a platform for the barbaric, violent, destructive, supremacist and racist behaviour that we see today with Islam.

 

Yes, Africa, really. So explain the difference between an African Christian and a European Christian. Oh, and Amin died in 2003, but America continues to do business with Saudi Arabia-the country which supplied the majority of the 9-11 terrorists. No double standards there.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_m...roups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

 

As I said, give us a single example from the western world or any developed country in the world where Christians slaughtered anyone in the name of religion. A single one. There is no country in the world with the official policy of exterminating others in the name of religion. There are plenty of Muslim radical movements and some countries that advocate eradication of anyone who is not like them. Your argument is completely false. It's beyond ridiculous. You know it, stop demeaning yourself.

 

Sorry, I'm not playing your cherry-picking game. You wanted examples of violence committed in the name of a Christian god and you got many. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.

 

The most vile atrocities are committed in Muslim majority countries. We have the statistics for this. As for this little group of cult rebels, well there may be some, now and throughout history that believe that they are fighting to implement Christianity. However the ideological drive is minute in comparison to Islam because the New Testament doesn't provide the foundation for it, unlike Islam.

 

Read what your fellow Christians are up to; http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_m...roups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/
We have statistics for these as well. Your interesting grasp of logic assumes, therefore, that 1.7 billion Muslims are all potential terrorists. Reverse that logic and see how stupid it would be if I suggested that ALL Christians are similarly predisposed, because their Bible exhorts them to kill and massacre in the name of their god. Are you able to grasp that?

 

You must be joking or trolling. Your post is laughable. Got many? There is no way you can equate contemporary Christianity and contemporary Islam, Wahhabism/Salafism in particular. Trying to equate them is not only intellectually dishonest, it's simply ignorant.

 

You're welcome to continue living in denial. I understand it's more comfortable that way. Have a great day.

 

double post

 

That is fine to produce this argument, but when we draw a juxtaposition to Islam in this context, Christianity is infinitesimal. This is about magnitude and scale, something that you clearly don't wish to acknowledge. As I said, there is nothing in the New Testament to provide any sort of foundation for barbaric, violent, supremacist, racist or intolerant behaviour.

Personally I don't care what your faith is, provided it isn't a threat to society.

 

Citing just the NT is a pathetic cop-out. My King James Bible contains both the new and old testaments; they both contain the words of your god, and ignoring the unpleasant parts but accepting others for convenience are pretty much par for the course where Christian hypocrisy is concerned.

 

Do you even know why it is called Christianity?

 

I couldn't care less, frankly. I despise ALL so-called faiths equally, including the Bronze Age mythology of Christianity. Religion has brought us nothing but death and misery, and I include the infantile, superstitious Bronze Age mythology of Christianity.

 

Well you have a choice, would you prefer a Muslim majority nation that promotes a sultanate/caliphate under Islamic law or not? You need to make the choice now, not in 5 or 10 years.

 

Yes. I did highlight that. Islam was the aggressor as it has been throughout it's long history of being at war with every neighbor it ever had. And the alternative would have been a Muslim European continent. I make the point...being an unashamed Christian. That we have sinned....and slaughtered....and invaded and conquered. So....if you're radical Islam today....if you're another who wants to bring down the western world with a sword......bring it. Yer goin back home in a box.

 

"ministering to non-believers"........"set the stage?"

Do you ever tire of being ignorant?

 

It's truth. The Old Testament is law and judgement. That was fulfilled and ended on the cross. The New Testament begins with the resurrection and the Holy Spirit descending and starting the Christian Church. Some people don't like the truth because it gets in the way of their agenda and the lie they're pushing.

 

It's all superstitious crap designed to coerce the feeble of mind into worshipping...nothing. There are no 'gods', no 'angels', no 'heaven', no 'hell'. Time to grow up, leave your Bronze Age fantasy comfort zone, and join the 21st century.

 

Nope. It was CATHOLIC doctrine having nothing to do with the doctrine of Christianity in the bible, that made conquest in the name of Christianity a possibility.

 

You left off the second part of Christianity.

According to Christianity

36 ;Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?
37 Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments

In contrast to Islam

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira*)
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

One can be beneficial while the other is detrimental.

 

Unfortunately the Koran spells out the means to be used.

[3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.(*)

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...(*)

2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

[2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;(*)

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/

 

Religion is only as violent as its doctrine. You really cant observe the behavior of one who identifies as a particular religion and make any conclusions about the content of the doctrine. And when someone's behavior is in direct contradiction of that religious doctrine, I wouldn't attribute their behavior to their religion when clearly it is in spite of that religion

 

Well, its a literal interpretation that you are viewing as aggressive. And the first action of the first of the rightly guided caliphs after muhammads death was to wage the wars of apostasy against its own people because they stopped paying tribute to Mecca when Muhammad died. ISIS is emulating the rightly guided Caliphs.

 

Its a literal interpretation of Christianity as opposed to a twisted and tortured interpretation of Christian Doctrine.