To what degree could aliens prevent nuclear war?

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Are technologically advanced aliens involved in human events, history or evolution?

  1. No... this idea is ridiculous!

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  2. Yes.... I know of reliable people who saw a UFO.

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  3. Maybe...... I can't rule out the possibility.

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  4. I personally have observed what I thought was a UFO.

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  5. I am not sure, but this topic is fascinating to me! I am looking into this!

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  6. I work for the NSA - CIA and I know that i know that advanced aliens are real.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly....... we religious people accurate believe in the existence of the fallen Watchers, the sons of G-d who fell because of the daughters of men..... but we often forget that many Watchers..... did not fall............... and we miss evidence that other Watchers may fully and completely repent and have an astonishingly positive effect on future world events.

    Daniel 4:17

    "This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men."

    I believe that this would be un-fallen Watchers being referred to here.




    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-and-divide-the-kingdom-of-satan-and.369227/

    Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...

    cause it to fall?

    "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10 RSV)
    Click to expand..

    In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

    I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!


    "And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
    (Matthew 12)
     
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    To the point of modern UFO reports and nukes:

    See Malmstrom AFB 1967
    http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm

    The Big Sur UFO filming
    http://www.nicap.org/reports/bigsur1.htm

    There are a number of incidents where UFOs are alleged to have interfered with nuclear weapons or missiles in some fashion. These reports originate from the officers who were present at the time. Many are still alive and telling their stories. In most cases, the official reports were only declassified because the military people involved knew it existed and requested a report under the freedom of information act. In the case of Malmstrom, no logical explanation was ever found for a dozen or so independent nuclear missile systems going offline sequentially, when a UFO was reported by the security personnel. The original engineering report from Boeing can still be found online. Quite a head scratcher! These systems are completely independent by design and they are spread out over miles.
     
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    Personally.... I like the theory that this particular UFO may have been involved
    in preventing the Islamic Waqf from attempting to set off some sort of experiment
    on the Temple Mount that would have required a great deal of electricity.


    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/141937

    Huge Jordanian Generators Sighted on Temple Mount

    (January 25, 2011).... Three days before the spectacular UFO event over the Temple Mount!
     
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    It is logical that our technology, although impressive,
    would not be the most advanced in the universe and Multiverse.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    If they exist and they can get here, their technology is superior to ours. How superior is another question. Based on the time scales involved when it comes to things astronomical, an alien race might be a million years more advanced than we are, or even more! In the extreme, races might exist that are over a billion years older than us.

    But then maybe we can already see the limits of technology and no race is going to be fantastically more advanced, simply because there is a limit to technology.
     
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    More likely it was just the Zorgans again. Dregs of the Universe that race is constantly cruising planets trying to pick ip Tolanians that pop in everywhere from dimension 16 uninvited. Fortunately most places they appear in cannot se their form unless they have ultraviolet vision capability. Everytime you see Butterflies scatter it is usually a damn Tol doing the yazzza dance.
     
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    PS. Based strictly on the physics involved, and logic, based on what we know, if we assume that some UFOs are crafts guided by intelligent beings, it is more likely that they are distant humans travelling backwards in time, than aliens traversing the galaxy at superluminal speeds. Time travel and exceeding the speed of light get into the same problems and are related. But space travel has so many other problems beyond the essential physics, that time travel is the simpler solution.
     
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    I like the way that this near death experiencer elaborated on the subject of aliens.

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

     
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    Nikola Tesla may well have given the USA government........
    (specifically certain investors) time travel technological capability back before 1943.....
    but when the investors refused to do it the way that Tesla told them to......
    he walked away from The Philadelphia Experiment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment
     
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    I'm afraid that has all been soundly debunked.

    If you dig into the identity of the author of the Phili Experiment story, it turns out he was a total nobody. He was just a loser who wrote a book [I think he originally faked a manuscript] and got lucky with a conspiracy theory that caught on. He had no way to have any privileged information or to have been present when the test allegedly took place.

    And I'll head you off at the pass: Bob Lazar never attended Cal Tech. Stan Friedman completely debunked Lazar's claimed history.
     
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    We did do invisibility testing on ships back then. This is often referenced in the fringe claims. And it's true!

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    By breaking up the shape of the ship, ideally it becomes invisible on the horizon and at a distance. It is a game of tricking the brain into not seeing a recognizable shape.
     
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    Thomas' case sounds like a kind of gnosticism. There's a near death experience book I wanna read, the title of which I can't remember, after I finish listening to Biocentrism. I like it so far, and you might dig it, too.
     
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    Have you ever heard of the Tribe of Dan?(I think that's what it's called.) I read something about the Tribe of Dan, and I wanna say it had something to do with Watchers, or some kind of semi-divine beings. You seem to be knowledgeable on this subject, so I wanna pick your brain, if you don't mind.
     
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    Yes.... Orthodox Jewish scholar Yair Davidiy has presented a powerful case that groups from the Tribe of Dan migrated to Denmark, Ireland, Scotland, England and from there to all the world.

    A significant part of the Tribe of Dan migrated to Ethiopia, with the other
    Israelites who assisted the Falasha Jews to carry on rituals at a hidden
    replica of the Ark of the Covenant that was sent to Ethiopia with the son of
    King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

    Stories about this are a part of the history of Ethiopia and were quoted in
    National Geographic back in the 1930's.

    You are absolutely correct that there is some sort of connection between the Tribe of Dan and
    the restoration of the Fallen Watchers........... as is shown in chapter 13 of The Book of Enoch. It is not a coincidence that the Patriarch and Prophet Enoch meets with the Watchers in what is to become the territory of the Tribe of Dan.

    http://britam.org/dan.html

    The Tribe of Dan: Present Day Identifications
    The Tribe of Dan and peoples descended from Dan

    http://britam.org/dan2.html

    Some Characteristics of Dan
    Tribal Identifications: Dan part 2

    Adapted from "Lost Israelite Identity" (1996)
    by Yair Davidiy


    A Few Notes on
    THE TRIBE OF DAN
     
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    Another version of Chapter 13 of the Book of Enoch is on page one of this discussion.....
    post #12.....
    but here is the version that I personally read first.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe016.htm


    This is kind of a heavy subject......
    and I would love to go into this further over in the
    Creative Corner forum.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/auditions-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/
     
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    I just watched another one of his videos.....
    and I am starting to wonder if I am being too
    naive...... and is this guy actually closer to the truth than
    I am?????



    MUST WATCH! Human Animal Hybrids Exist! | Tom Horn on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!
     
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    You could be correct..... I simply don't know but
    it is also possible that all of this is simply beyond your
    and my security clearance level.....
    so it is best that we believe the disinformation about this
    and other classified research.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann
     
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    I will clear that up for you. I am correct. :)
     
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    One of our fellow posters here happens to be a Theoretical Physicist......
    I quoted him in posts #1 and #2 here........
    You may want to take a look at this because his
    variation on Multiverse Theory is relevant to this idea......


    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
     
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    Sorry, but it is ridiculous to think another more advanced group of aliens from another planet visited here within the last 5,000 years.

    For one thing, the nearest planet that could sustain life is 40 light years away.

    Spacecraft can't travel at the speed of light, and if they did, they'd have to be made of steel one mile thick because even if a tiny speck hit a ship going at that speed, it would be like a nuclear bomb going off.

    Once one gets going at light speed, then it takes about 125 years to slow down.

    Also going over half the speed of light would create lethal radiation from hydrogen. So any life form would be dead.
     
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    I personally have serious doubts about aliens visiting earth from
    other planets using primitive space flight methods anything like what we have so far........

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_hypothesis


    On the other hand the Interdimensional Hypothesis fits perfectly with what I have been considering for years now......


    www.CarbonBias.BlogSpot.ca/
     
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    This question has enormous implications for the nation of Israel and
    for the Jewish people at this time..........
    so I will copy and paste this now over into our Elijah discussion:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-2

    Auditions for the role of Elijah needed....
     
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    AboveAlpha claims to have met them as a part of his duties with the
    NSA - CIA.

    He doesn't recommend that we play around with them.....

    Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

     
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    I hope they prevent multiculturalism before a nuclear war. Because multiculturalism and globalization will eventually cause nuclear war.
     
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    Well for openers, it looks like you are still struggling at your point in life with Theism, Deism, Agnosticism, and Atheism.

    In Modern Philosophy the interpretation of God is that He/She/It is not concerned with human events. This gives rise to Deism. In other words God is a clockmaker who has made the clock and has left it to run on its own without further interference.

    Theism of whatever flavor you prefer (Judaism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Shinto, etc.) take more involved views of things such as in the case of almost-Deist Buddhism a form of Karma, and at the other extreme in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam an all seeing ever present God.

    If you want to relegate these godly powers to a distant space alien race, noting however that we have absolutely no scientific basis for such an idea, then you must assume that they are watching us as well. That borders then on blind faith just like Theism.

    Life is much less complicated for the Deists, Agnostics, and Atheists however.

    But back to your original question --

    ... Do I think or believe that anyone from outer space whether God or Alien is going to bail us out?

    Nope.

    I believe we are on our own.

    I also believe that whatever we do to ourselves and to the Earth, the Earth will survive, as will mankind, and the animals, and the various plants.
     
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