Trump Must Be Impeached. Here's Why

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...34b6d506b37_story.html?utm_term=.77eef8e31db0

    I agree this should be done as quickly as possible, it would be nice if we had the luxury of taking our time to build a truly airtight case but I think we need to act quickly before Trump starts a war to cover himself. The only time he has seemed to have even the smallest public support was during the Syrian Missiles incident and the Korean Crisis and I don't think this will be lost on him. We have, I think, more than enough to unseat him quite nicely right now in any case
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The BIG LIE ^^ which is that a crime has been committed. Alan Dershowitz explains:

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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That really doesn't matter, this was brought up during Watergate and again during the Lewinski scandal. The definition of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" is intentionally broad and the Congress is the highest Lawmaking body in the nation, also, the criterion is not whether the acts were criminal but whether they show that the President can no longer function properly as President
     
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    Skippy really want's the whole Seth Rich story dead doesn't he.

    Trump could be impeached for what he did on April 6th but because everyone in congress liked that missile strike corporate greed won the day instead of law. The foreign emoluments clause is something that in court will take a while to settle with our current system of due process.

    Like it or not however we have due process for a reason, if it isn't followed then people will be highly angry and against a government that no longer follows such due process just because CNN, NYT and the Washington post don't like trump.
     
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    Being a butt hurt, delusional, unrealistic, brain washed follower does not qualify for a reason to impeach Trump.
     
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    OP

    Reflecting on the calibre and gravitas of the other contenders for the presidency, Trump is the best of the lot so you'd better hope he isn't impeached.
     
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    Prior to the Primaries, the GOP had a pretty good group to choose from.


    Pity that really.
     
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    Is there source material to back this claim?
     
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    Washington Post is a leftist rag.
    Enough said.
     
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    More like a CIA funded rag ran by Skippy I mean John or is he actually being Skippy right now. Who knows with that alter ego going on.
     
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    I think there is enough to justify a serious look by a bipartisan select House judiciary subcommittee that may result in some articles of impeachment, as well as this investigation by the special council as a starting point . But our legislature does not rush to nullify the effect of presidential elections, because they are worried about what the incumbent might do, to avoid the process by which presidential elections are nullified . We should take our time and remain circumspect and cautious here.
     
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    Shouldnt we wait for some evidence of a crime before we start to impeach?
     
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    Oh heck no that's too hard, just blame the dog I mean Russia for eating our homework.

    Okay now for real though I agree with you, it's just some of this stuff is hard not to make a joke out of while we wait and see what ends up happening to this case.
     
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    [​IMG] I like that!
     
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    But there are, at this point, neither high crimes nor misdemeanors. That was Dershowitz' point. And pissing off the left and to a lesser extent the GOP establishment is neither a high crime nor a misdemeanor, however much you'd like it to be.
     
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    Whatever the Congress says is a High Crime or Misdemeanor is one and the idea isn't did he do something criminal but is he showing himself incapable of being the POTUS? The bar for that is set rather higher than just having committed a crime or not.

    Or not, this is going to be a big part of the debate in Congress once it goes to impeachment, which I think it will.

    Nixon resigned and Clinton was impeached on far less than we have Trump dead to rights on

    The thing is that even if it goes to impeachment and he's acquitted it's over in 2018. I don't think I speak for even a majority of Americans in most things but I can't help but think that most of us are a little more concerned about a President and a party that seems to think it's perfectly alright to cheat an election with the aid of one of our classic foreign foes than we are about slightly lower taxes. If a Party puts in higher taxes than we really like we can always vote them out, if they cheat the elections how are we supposed to ever get rid of them, or have any influence on government at all ever again?
     
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    YOU ARE WRONG. We have tried impeachment. It needs to go the final step. CONVICTION, and lock him up.
     
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    The banner on the video states that Alan Dershowitz explains that "most" but not "all" allegations against the Trump Administration are not criminal. What about the ones that are criminal?

    Additionally impeachment does not require a violation of criminal law. The House of Representatives, in creating the Articles of Impeachment, can list whatever it believes are legitimate reasons for removal from office regardless of whether they violate statutory laws.

    Finally the underlying problem is really Trump's mental disorders (narcissism and paranoia) and he should be addressed under the provisions of the 25th Amendment. Congress can create a panel of mental health experts to review Donald Trump's behavior and render a decision on whether his mental illness represents a impairment that prevents him from carrying out his duties as president. The threat to America represented by Trump's mental illness, diagnosed by many of the top experts in mental health based upon Trump's public behavior, represents a serious national security concern that must be addressed.

    When Cuba had nuclear missiles being installed it was a national security threat and the US went to great lengths to verify or debunk the threat. Trump's mental illness also represents a serious national security threat and the US needs to go to great lengths verify or debunk the threat.
     
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    I vote this one comedy thread of the day. Lol. Made me bellylaugh.
     
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    In other words, lynch him.

    Do we?

    Could you draw up a sample bill of impeachment?

    Right now, all the evidence seems to be hearsay from anonymous sources.

    Personally, I am looking forward to President Pence. But I think it would be a bad precedent to impeach a President with no evidence that could be admitted in a court of law.
     
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    [QUOTE="Aleksander Ulyanov, post: 1067496432, member: 62017"]Whatever the Congress says is a High Crime or Misdemeanor is one and the idea isn't did he do something criminal but is he showing himself incapable of being the POTUS? The bar for that is set rather higher than just having committed a crime or not.

    Or not, this is going to be a big part of the debate in Congress once it goes to impeachment, which I think it will.

    Nixon resigned and Clinton was impeached on far less than we have Trump dead to rights on

    The thing is that even if it goes to impeachment and he's acquitted it's over in 2018. I don't think I speak for even a majority of Americans in most things but I can't help but think that most of us are a little more concerned about a President and a party that seems to think it's perfectly alright to cheat an election with the aid of one of our classic foreign foes than we are about slightly lower taxes. If a Party puts in higher taxes than we really like we can always vote them out, if they cheat the elections how are we supposed to ever get rid of them, or have any influence on government at all ever again?[/QUOTE]

    LMAO. The narrative from the left changes on a daily basis. The whole Russia thing is just barking at night "just in case" their "might" be an intruder in the back yard. No scent, noise, no sight, no nothing.
    Now the focus is on the original butt hurt. Shock and awe that Clinton lost.

    What is it you have Trump dead to rights on? Fascinating. willy-wonka.jpg
     
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    Can you at least wait until Paul Ryan is removed from power so maybe reruns can get someone in there that isn't a shill?

    If you remove Trump you HAVE to remove Pence. IMO a Pence presidency would be worse than Trump. Bigger picture there bud. Pence is scary AF.
     
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    Removing Pense is part of the investigation. BELIEVE ME. He is dead to rights toast. According to Cummings letter to him about Flynn.
     
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    I find the bolded remark, as well as the entire post in general, more dangerous to democracy than anything Trump has allegedly done.

    Who decides if "he is showing himself incapable of being the POTUS"?? Democratic standard bearers Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters?? Two of the left's senile finest who should have been retired to the glue factory decades years ago??

    According to your criteria, Obama should have been impeached for colluding with the Iranians, ignoring the time bomb that is North Korea, and making the world a truly more dangerous place. Keeping our country safe is the President's highest duty, and Obama failed. While I would have been happy to see our lovable community organizer booted out the door, I'm thankful that our country doesn't work that way.

    You don't impeach a sitting President because he doesn't adhere to your rabid political ideology. If we go down that slippery slope, Presidents could be routinely tossed whenever the opposing party controls Congress. That's not a country I would want to live in.
     
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    To impeach you need an impeachable offense other than hysterical TDS claims.
     
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