Trump Must Be Impeached. Here's Why

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Total complete and utter nonsense. Nixon tried to cover up a burglary making himself an accomplis after the fact Clinton perjured himself in a sworn affidavit. Both of those are crimes. You've got nothing even close to that on Trump. Excessive use of twitter isn't a crime. Even if he says things you don't like. Calling an FBI director crazy isn't a crime.
     
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    No need for all that intellectualizing and pontificating. Make your case in just a few honest words: Trump needs to be impeached because he is ugly, you don't like him, and he is in Hillary's seat.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    This is inaccurate. Impeachment and removal from office is not a "criminal justice" issue. A sitting president cannot be prosecuted for a criminal offense according to most Constitutional experts. First comes impeachment by the House of Representatives. That's followed by removal from office by the Senate. Then and only then can a criminal prosecution take place for any violations of statutory laws. The violation of statutory law is unnecessary for the impeachment and removal from office.
     
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    What makes you think the coup forces need a valid impeachable offense?
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The attempted intervention to into the investigation of possible collusion between members of the Trump campaign with the Russians is no different than Nixon's attempted intervention into the investigation of the Watergate break-in. If there was collusion with the Russian interference in the US election then that would be an act of treason and Trump, by attempting to cover it up and/or impede the investigation would be an accomplice after the fact to an act of treason. If Trump is involved with the Russians that were responsible for the intervention into the 2016 presidential election then he would be giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy which is also an act of treason. If there is a quid pro quo relationship between Trump and/or his staff with the Russians that would also be a case of collusion.

    Dismissing the head of a criminal investigation into the actions of yourself and/or members of your staff is an abuse of power established by the conflict of interest. Trump could have requested Comey's resignation but for Trump to fire Comey when Comey was leading an investigation that included Donald Trump was a clear abuse of power.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    "Coup forces?" What kind of utter nonsense is this? A new nutcase conspiracy theory?

    That's like the claim that the news media is biased against Trump because something like 85% of the news coverage is negative. No, it's not biased because almost everything Trump does is negative. It's called "accurate reporting" by the media based upon Trump's gross incompetence as the POTUS.
     
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    When you have previous Obama admin officials leaking selected text out of context to tie up the left wing news, it is called a deep state coup. They don't have to appeal to the intellectual.
     
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    An impeachable offense is anything the U.S. Congress says it is.
     
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    The problem is that there is no evidence just shrill cries and innuendo...There was plenty of evidence to impeach Clinton, in fact he lost his license to practice law because of perjury...Everyone remembers that pompous redneck up there pointing his finger at the camera, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" BS of the highest caliber, but a Democrat controlled Senate chose not to remove him. Maybe if they had, Bush would not have gotten elected, because Gore would have been President.
    There was also sufficient evidence to have Hillary prosecuted for her mishandling of classified documents. I hope the special prosecutor brings charges against Hillary, prosecutes those that are leaking information to the press and further investigates the unmasking by the Obama administration. This could go as far as the former President himself and the Attorney General.

    But you keep wishful thing there, you may get more than you bargained for.
     
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    Nope Comey is the head administrator not the head investigator. Firing comey did not impact the investigation, such as it is, a damn bit,
     
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    Liberals are worried about attacks against our system of government?

    Wait a minute...

    Don't they hate our system and demand it change in just about every aspect?
     
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    Here's one of your coup forces: And yes, she's a nutcase.


    Maxine Waters: I Don't Support Trump Firing Comey, I Would Support Hillary Clinton Firing Comey mw.jpg
     
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    Nutcase is the kindest description available. She's a pure senile nutcase at best, and an unrepentant racist at worst:

    http://eheadlines.com/tucker-carlso...rats-for-the-fake-auntie-maxine-praise-video/

    And the Democrats hold her up as an icon and moral leader of the party. God help us.....
     
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    Defending people like Maxine is probably why the left is so vile and bitter. I'd hate to have to bear that cross. Pelosi, Pocohontas, etc et all. Oh..........and Corrine Brown awaits sentencing. :clapping:
     
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    What's the crime ??
     
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    What is/are the crime(s) ??

    And of course a healthy dose of Trump Derangement Syndrome in the last paragraphs.
     
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    Pence lied like the hypocrite bible thumper that he is Sickening individual!
     
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    If Trump is ever to be impeached, dems will finally have their revenge for repubs impeaching Clinton which was none of their business what went on in President Clinton's private life. Even my dad who votes republican most of his life said that the GOP was idiotic for impeaching Bill. Newt Gingrich also started the divide in the house of representatives I remember that body used to be bi-partisan where dems and repubs worked together until he became speaker.
     
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    Where is the smoking gun?
     
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    When patriots said that to deluded tea partiers they would not be convinced. Therefore, let us apply the same standard they imposed previously.
     
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    that did not stop the GOP in their hysterics against Clinton
     
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    The President who unleashed the NSA to spy on American citizens and sent his NSA chief to lie about it to Congress should have been impeached.

    The President who told Iranian mullahs to stonewall nuclear talks with his predecessor because he would give them a better deal should never have been allowed near the Oval Office.

    The President who investigated a reporter for news outlet with whom he disagreed should have bee impeached.

    The President who weaponized the IRS to attack his detractors should have been impeached and the operative he told to deny Americans access to funding to air their views should be in jail.

    The President who worked to sabotage the country on his way out the door should spend the rest of his life in one of the jail cells the Clintons built for the mass incarceration of blacks.

    The current President hasn't committed any crimes.
     
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    Pretty thin stuff, especially Articles 4-7.

    It did not. As my mother used to say, if your friend jumped off a cliff, would you jump too?
     
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    This is what can be called "Black Privilege."
     

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