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Trump Must Be Impeached. Here's Why

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, May 20, 2017.

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Kasich was by far the best of that bunch.
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Assumes extremist alt right disinformation nowhere remotely in evidence.
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So explain exactly how Trump personally profiting when a representative of a foreign state stays in his hotel that does not violate the Emoluments clause that you just quoted?
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Denial of the facts does not alter them in any way.

    Trump had no authority whatsoever to attack Syria. Only Congress can grant him that authority and they did nothing of the sort therefore Trump is in violation of the Law of the Land which is an impeachable offense.
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Gotta love the profound ignorance of the extremist alt right!

    :roflol:
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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  6. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm no fan of Trump, but this is certainly histrionic. What damage has there been?

    From my perspective, the only damage that has taken place has been to the various egos of groups that no longer wield the power they once did.
     
    Fangbeer, May 21, 2017
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    So you don't think Clinton lied under oath?
     
    Hoosier8, May 21, 2017
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    Trump is POTUS and let's see if he will lie under oath................that time is coming fast :), don't fear it.
     
    ThorInc, May 21, 2017
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    Perjury is felony, a high crime as such it is an impeachable offense. Being hated by the left however much yu wish other wise is not.is not.
     
    garyd, May 21, 2017
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    Richard Nixon turned out to be a criminal who tried to cheat his way to re-election.
    But at best he was a political criminal who failed to manipulate the system in his favor.
    Nobody got killed, except the faith in American politics.

    Nixon, in the end, went voluntarily. Trump, a criminal pur sang, will never accept impeachment for the crimes he committed. He'll rather barricade himself in the White House before he surrenders.
    Then we can try to remove him under a hail of bullets.

    Nixon was a crook who's political legacy left many dead bodies.
    Trump could probably tell you what happened to the body of Jimmy Hoffa...

    Small but vital difference.
     
    Scamander, May 21, 2017
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    Please explain how it does violate the Emoluments clause? Because someone rents a room at a hotel does not make it a political gift, nor does it bestow a title. That's like saying the Head of Iran buying a Mercedes when I own stock in that company, makes me an Iranian sympathizer....You all are really stretching for anything to grasp at, be careful that ladder doesn't fall with you on the top rung....BOOM!!!

    Just say that you hate Trump and want him gone...until there is evidence, there is no crime, just a bunch of you all at the wailing wall.
     
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    If you are an elected official and you own a hotel that a foreign government representative rents then the PROFIT from that room rental is an emolument to you from a foreign government.

    That is the Law of the Land and Trump is in violation of that law unless he returns his profits to the Treasury.
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Obama bombed Syria as well without congressional approval...So should he be arrested for war crimes? Quit grasping at straws and man up and admit you hate Trump.
     
    jmblt2000, May 21, 2017
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    BZZZZT Wrong!

    Obama's airstrikes were against ISIS!

    Your beloved "god-emperor's" airstrike was against the sovereign nation of Syria.

    The YUUUUGE DIFFERENCE is that attacking ISIS is covered under the original AUMF against Iraq but there has been ZERO Congressional approval to attack the sovereign nation of Syria. Obama asked Congress for that authorization but they refused.

    Trump just ignored Congress and violated the Law of the Land as a result which is an impeachable offense.

    So it is YOU who is grasping at straws here.
     
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    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Might be a good idea...


     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The argument for standing in this case is the most hilarious line of nonsense I've heard in a long time. The plaintiff claims damages due to the fact that the Trump admin causes them to experience a larger workload....
     
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    Again you are grasping at straws...You obviously are so blinded by your hatred that you don't know the difference between a payment for services, and an emolument or present...Besides that, Trump decided not to takes his salary as President, so guess it fits that he already returned it to the treasury. At least by stretching the bounds of the emoluments clause as you have.
     
    jmblt2000, May 21, 2017
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Non sequitur response!
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you have never bothered to look up the definition, have you?

     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Libya.
     
    Fangbeer, May 21, 2017
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    That was done under the authority of NATO.
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Please show how this applies to the emoluments clause that I quoted earlier...In the context of the clause, compensation for services is not defined....But keep beating that dead horse.
     
    jmblt2000, May 21, 2017
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    uh no. In order for there to be a trial to determine if the clause applies, someone has to show that they have been harmed in some way.

    Who was harmed by the rental of a hotel room? Maybe some other hotel owner might have an argument if they can show the selection of the room had something to do with the person who owned it, but that's not who's making the argument. The argument comes from an activist group that claims trump causes them to be more active.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your ignorance of the Law of the Land is not my problem.
     
    Derideo_Te, May 21, 2017
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    We the People were harmed by Trump violating his oath to uphold the Constitution.
     
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