Healthcare costs and the free market

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by ARDY, May 6, 2017.

  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    A smaller country necessarily implies a smaller scale. A system that only effects six million people is much different than one which effects 320 million.
     
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    Oh, so when you said "society", you meant "the people", and by "the people" you meant "the majority of the people".

    Got it. So the majority of the German people approved of the holocaust so therefore it was right?
     
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    Nationwide programs that impact every person in the country. That is the standard
     
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    Prove that the majority of the people approved of the holocaust
     
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    I said $10k on average( $5k to young $20k to old people) any money now spent by corporations, for example, on insurance could be taxed away and spent for voucher distribution with neither govt nor corporations being worse off. Now do you understand. Further, you are side tracking with petty management questions that are easily answered.
     
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    What difference does it make how old it is? You said they never have and I proved that they have. What's more, it gave rise to the very "society" you currently inhabit and value. Without libertarian values permeating the American revolution, there would be no bill of rights, no federalism, and no dynamic capitalist markets that create massive amounts of wealth. You owe a great deal to libertarian philosophy even if you don't realize it.
     
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    Yes, about 1/10 the population of the US. That would be a good start. But perhaps Luxembourg at .1% the population of the US would work better. Actually, it would, since they are 2nd in GDP per capita.
     
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    Hitler's feelings toward the Jews weren't exactly a secret, were they?
     
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    I said $10k on average( $5k to young $20k to old people) any money now spent by corporations, for example, on insurance could be taxed away and spent for voucher distribution with neither govt nor corporations being worse off. Now do you understand. Further, you are side tracking with petty management questions that are easily answered.
     
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    So you're just going to ignore the fact that those nationwide programs effect far less people than the ones you're proposing for the USA?
     
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    wrong, as I said, in the first year of the conversion to capitalism
    the govt would send each American a voucher for $10,000 as the price of health care dropped 80% so would the voucher until people were able to afford paying for their own health care.
     
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    you'd bring your voucher to emergency hospital clinic etc
     
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    like now he could ask his primary care Dr, read Consumer Reports, ask friends, hire someone in that business etc
     
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    Because the government, which is the people, approved of it.
     
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    He wants to have it both ways.

    Society is defined by the laws of the government, but when the laws of the government do not represent the people, it suddenly stops being society.
     
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    Vouchers would not be good on elective or unproven procedures. if $10 k was not enough govt could pay remainder. Again these are petty management questions that don't relate to basic concept of health care capitalism.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the government kept the german people out of the loop on what was going on. The will of the people were not represented
     
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    Thank goodness I never said that. LOL (that was for misrepresenting me).
     
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    Then show me where he told the german people that we was exterminating them in death camps
     
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    Yep. They are still nationwide and effect every person in the country so that is the standard
     
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    How about Vatican City? lets go for a really small and ridiculous example
     
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    If you cannot see the difference in scale between a system that is designed to provide healthcare to six million people versus 320 million people then you are irrational.
     
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    Even if they didn't know about the Jews being sent to death camps, they certainly knew about Jews being oppressed, demonized, and exploited.
     
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    Why is it ridiculous to want a smaller scale political system?
     
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    I see they are smaller countries. But the logic is the same.
     

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