TRUMP SCIENCE ADVISOR DENIES APOLLO MOON LANDINGS EVER HAPPENED

It's like talking with a child. The point is that in weightless freefall, the gas given off by sublimation provides the impetus. There is also the consideration that a more immediate force is provided by the astronaut simply making contact with the ice particle. The slight acceleration is easily explained by sudden exposure to sunlight.

Are you really that much of a coward that you cannot answer the points raised? So accurate and true is your claim that you can't even answer basic observations!

 

Blunderman. Tell me why you won't respond to the point above Now at that ridiculously slow speed, the cables are moving dead slow and of course the piece of jagged white ice is now moving slow as well. You are afraid to respond because there is NO explanation. Cables don't suddenly speed up, so the whole EVA is at slowmo, or none of it is. Busted.

The big problem is that there are only 4 frames capturing the ice particle, so this slow motion claim is provable hogwash! A 4 fps video that runs so smooth, I know not.

 

You are the child here. You certainly don't understand high school physics.
In Newtonian physics, free fall is any motion of a body where gravity is the only force acting upon it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_fall

Keep trying Beta, maybe you can talk yourself out of this one - and maybe convince a few people that sublimation rocket propulsion actually exists

 

You must have super suit with a big B on it! Freefall means the ice cube has no weight or friction.

I can't convince idiots. You are an even worse coward than the serial forum spammer. You have been completely cornered and are running away like a child in the schoolyard!


1. Tell us all how a supposedly 250F crumpled layer of Mylar or Kapton, emitting 0.05 of its heat, manages to bring up the layer next to it, to a similar temperature. Then add the required number of more layers as per the specification.Update Explain how 4 single layers in, plus 1 multi layer outside of it, it even gets to that temperature.
2.The LM had cooling and it did not fail, why is your straw man even relevant.
3. Point me to Al Bean's thermal engineering training in a 1955 degree.
4. How long exactly are you claiming it will be before the oxygen interior reaches maximum temperature? Provide figures
5. How do unmanned satellites and other vehicles keep cool in space for years

Cornered

1. Cite a reference for wave blowers or explain why there are currents.
2. Explain how a bubble can be white, jagged and rotating.
3.Explain how a 25% video still leaves the flag moving very quick at points
4. Explain how they could do this ludicrously slow motion for the astronauts and cables!
5.How can something go straight up but move horizontally??
6. How can you categorise odds of an object going straight up, when it doesn't go straight up and it is one of dozens that dart off in different directions.

If the footage runs at this speed the whole time, the cables and astronauts barely move, if it is a partial section, why suddenly do the cables start moving much quicker? I can see why you avoid this!

 

And Descartes keeps getting cornered.

 

When are we going to see a demonstration of the "Betamax Sublimator" propulsion system? BS for short. It should be easy to demonstrate your sublimation rocket propulsion system - all you need is a vacuum, a light and little model rockets of ice on threads and we could watch them fly around the vacuum jar. You probably could sell lots of these as a science education project.

 

Blunderman. You have a very poor understanding of physics. Despite it being explained to you, you still can't get the idea of a small force acting on a weightless object. You still refer to threads and vacuum jars. Troll.

If the footage runs at this speed the whole time, the cables and astronauts barely move, if it is a partial section, why suddenly do the cables start moving much quicker? I can see why you avoid this!

Cornered. I Just went through my other threads and there are probably another dozen open questions you cowardly avoid.

How fast does the jagged, white, rotating "bubble" go when the footage runs at speeds you claim to accommodate flag motion? Maybe you can have your own exhibition and call it how to get your ass kicked dozens of times and carry on acting the fool.

 

How do you define "small force" exactly? It is enough force to propel the supposed ice particles around at good speeds. It is a large enough force to be able to be demonstrated and measured in a laboratory setting. We don't see that happening though because it is just your imagination...

 

At the 2:04 time mark of this video...


...a bubble follows the curvature of the visor and then goes straight up. A solid particle would not change directions in a way that's consistent with the behavior of a bubble. This closes the whole case. This is too clear to obfuscate.


Here's something else that proves the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank. Check out the part about the buoyant safety cables here.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-sir-questions-sir.211182/page-6#post-4767755

 

To the spammer and the troll: any chance you can answer this. It would help to explain how they did this "closed case".

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html

The case is closed, they were in space. Flags do not rotate like that in water. You are cornered:-

1. if the whole thing was slowed down it is ridiculously slow for astronauts, the cables and "bubbles" are moving incredibly slow and even at 25% flicks of the flag are still way too quick in water!

2. if it was just the flag section, how come the cables suddenly start speeding up with their movement.

And of course the answer will not be forthcoming!

 

He's referring to this.


(1:55 time mark)

Of course they don't but it can be explained by sped-up video.

The footage didn't necessarily have to be shown at the same consistent speed. The speed can be varied.

I can't identify anything strange about the cables. Could you provide a link with a time mark?

 

How slow originally!!? At 1/4 speed the flag still has moments where he flicks it round unrestricted and fast. This closes the whole case, it is in space. No amount of sophism or obfuscation can make this go away. The viewers won't be swayed by your rhetoric. You're like the Black Knight, cornered and beaten. If they were dumb enough to let you in, you would be laughed out of the debating hall.

Ridiculously inept and stupid. At the normal speed the cable movement is brainlessly different than the tiny movement when slowed down. Same for the astronauts and the start of the "bubble" movement.

During the period when you claim the video is slowed down, the cables barely move, as do the astronauts. Then suddenly they supposedly start moving normally. You cannot explain this because it is a moronic idea.

 

Good point - I had the same thought myself. A solid object would not act that way. Sure does act like a bubble.
Check out these bubbles and note the jagged appearance:

 

But it doesn't. The bubbles you show don't hold their shape and they don't rotate. They aren't white! By the way, can we take it as read that you "agree" with the spammer. This actually means you are either lying or stupid.

Point me to the white ones that hold their shape, are clearly flat and rotating.

Then answer the questions, because so far we have a best case scenario as extremely slow cables and astronauts, followed by normal movement - and not any sensible explanation in sight.

 

You are the one who said the object was jagged:

Ya know, bubbles are not always perfect translucent spheres - here are some that hold their shape and are white, flat and rotating:

 

Yes, flat, white, irregular(jagged) and rotating. If you dispute any of that you are simply lying. Your failed suggestion you found some to match confirms this.

They all hold their predominantly curved shape, aren't rotating about an axis, aren't irregular, are NOT flat! and the white bit is when they approach the surface and the Sun illuminates the curved edge facing it. Useless try, no cigar. Be a man, admit it's a piece of ice.

Why are you afraid to answer my points? Especially the one relevant to your latest moronic strawman.

If you watch the video back at 25% there are still movements that are massively too quick for water, the astronauts are barely moving, as are the cables. Yet the spammer says they only speeded up this section! So why the mismatch between the cable movement at the slowed speed(which he claims is correct - of course it isn't!) and the other speed without the flag?

You guys are making no sense at all, as usual, slowed down it is 100% obvious it is a video playing back in slow motion. But you can't admit that can you. No credibility either of you - dishonest truthers.

Uploaded video:-

 

I don't know how to slow it down. How is it done?

 

You annoying waste of time. I detailed how to do it a few posts back and I just put a video up in the damn post you just quoted!

What I find breathtakingly stupid is that you haven't even verified viability by doing this previously. Now answer this properly Black Knight.

There is a serious discrepancy between the cable movements during the two speeds, and the flag is still moving fast during flicks. This closes the case, so it's usually where you vacate, start ignoring or come out with diversionary rhetoric.

 

It's a BUBBLE Beta... get over it...

 

As I said before these two dishonest truther cannot answer the simple points and questions. Now we see the troll reverting to childish responses.

 

Ok. I found the instructions on how to change the speed.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-ever-happened.512081/page-22#post-1068133968

I want to do this...

...but I can't find any icon that looks like a wheel. Could you point it out?

 

You amaze me and that is really saying something. I cannot understand how your brain thinks typing the question on a forum post and waiting for a reply, is quicker than typing the term "YouTube settings icon" into a search engine. Or if you are in an internet cafe as you claim, leaning over and asking someone!

 

Ok. Now that I've seen it in slow-motion...


...I don't see anything that couldn't have been done deliberately by people trying to fake a video. Also, the flag movement at the 1:55 time mark can be explained by something off camera that creates currents.

 

To any casual viewers who do what you just did, they will know that you are a lying and sad person who knows they have been shown to be wrong.

There is no possible reason for a current in an enclosed diving pool. Buoyancy is achieved with weights. You avoided the issue about why the cables suddenly move incredibly slow. I will put up another video showing the normal speed cut into the slow speed. Then try to do a transition version if possible.

You have no credibility. None. Your pet "credibilty test" has bitten you in the ass and you haven't the guts to admit it. Anybody, and I do mean anybody, who watches that footage at reduced speed will KNOW beyond any doubt that it is abnormal and obviously slow motion. They will also KNOW for a fact that the sudden open flag rotations are totally impossible in water.

You are totally busted.

 

Nope - you're wrong again Beta. Notice how these Philippine flags waving underwater at about the 0:45 mark look remarkably similar to the Chinese spacewalk video flag - who would have guessed?

And let's not forget that the Chinese spacewalk supposedly happened in 2008 - not in 1969 like Apollo - with modern cgi technology anything today can be faked in a video...