Pit Bulls should be banned in this country ! <<MOD WARNING - FOR RULE 9>>

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  1. TheDonald

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    You are in denial
    2016 dog bite fatality statistics2
    • 31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.3
    • Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.
    • The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days (Related graph).
    • In 2016, the combination of pit bulls (22), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (2) contributed to 84% (26) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog cases involved dogs acquired in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
    • Labradors and their mixes contributed to 3 deaths in 2016, followed by 6 breeds, each with 2 deaths: American bulldog, Belgian malinois, doberman pinscher, German shepherd, mixed-breed, rottweiler and 2 cases with unreleased breed data.
    • Annual data from 2016 shows that 42% (13) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger and 58% (18) were adults, ages 30-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2016, pit bulls were responsible for 67% (12).
    • In 2016, female victims (16) were greater in number than male victims (15). Among children ages 9-years and younger, male deaths were greater, 62% vs. 38% and among adults 59-years and older, female deaths outpaced males, 75% vs. 25%.
    • In 2016, infants 3 to 6-days old accounted for 31% of all child deaths. In one case, a pit bull-mix was lying in bed with the baby and its parents when it attacked. The family had adopted the dog 5-months earlier from the San Diego Humane Society.
    • 42% (13) of all dog bite fatality victims in 2016 were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred, up from 32% in 2015. Of this subset of 13 fatalities, 77% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls.
    • In 2016, 32% (10) of attacks resulting in death involved a dog or person new to a household (0-2 month period). Children 9-years and younger accounted for 80% (8) of these deaths. Of this subset of 10 fatalities, 70% (7) were inflicted by pit bulls.
    • In 2016, 61% (19) of all fatalities involved more than one dog, up from the 11-year average of 44% (2005 to 2015). 35% (11) of all deaths involved 2 or 3 dogs and 26% (8) involved a pack attack of 4 or more dogs, up from the 11-year average of 14%.
    • 29% (9) of all dog bite fatalities in 2016 involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past; pit bulls accounted for 67% of these deaths. 3% (1) involved tethered dogs, down from the 11-year average of 10%.
    • Dog ownership information for 2016 shows that non-family dogs inflicted the majority of deaths, 55% (17). Of this subset, 59% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls. Conversely, only 19% (6) of attacks resulting in death occurred off the dog owner's property.
    • Family dogs inflicted 45% (14) of all deaths in 2016; family pit bulls accounted for 86% (12) of these deaths, up from an 11-year average of 63%. Of the 22 fatal pit bull attacks, 55% (12) involved a family or household member vs. 45% (10) non-family.
    • In 2016, only 6% (2) of all deadly attacks resulted in meaningful criminal charges; the lowest level on record.4 2016 also marked the first time a police officer's "personal" attack-trained K-9 killed a person; he was charged with two felonies.
    • California led all states in fatal attacks in 2016 incurring 6 deaths; 67% of these deaths were inflicted by pit bulls. Florida, North Carolina and Texas each followed with 3 deaths. South Carolina, a routine dog bite fatality state, incurred no deaths.
     
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    See my previous post about the flaws in these statistics if you are interested in a rational response to it.
     
  3. MississippiMud

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    Any animal has the potential to attack. Any human has the potential to attack. It is tragic when someone is mutilated or killed in a dog attack just as it is in a human attack. I understand you are swayed by the emotion of tragic events. Legislation should never be passed on emotion. I don't know if you have had a personal experience. If you have i understand your stance and your inability to see past your fears.

    Let me be very clear on this. Dogs do not attack for no reason. They do not attack without warning. If you understand the reasons and are aware of the warning signs you can reduce your risk to next to nothing. You may choose to not accept this and that is your choice. In making that choice i do not know how else to help you. For that i am sorry.
     
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    Ummm... if she's so obedient, why is she wearing an electronic collar?
     
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    So I can beep her when it's time to go, or shock her if some a.s.s.h.o.l.e is walking their pitbull so she stays away from the worthless beast. Pitbulls kill more dogs than bears do...........FACT
     
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    There are some people who are put off by Shepherds because of their size when they run up to you. While it’s true labs are the gentlest breed, I don’t believe there’s a breed of dog that is literally a hellhound. I have been absolutely disgusted when police fatally shoot these dogs when they run up to them.

    Anyone who has raised a dog from a mere puppy knows socializing and training him or her is key. If you take a weeks old Pit puppy, and begin socializing him with other pups in the litter or other dogs in general, this will offset how he acts when he gets older.

    The breed bans in these metro areas are unnecessary. Unlike a gun, Pits can be programmed to think differently.
     
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    They were bred for a combination of strength and agility. They can be and have been trained to be killers. It is a behavior modification not breeding.
     
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    Great. It should be led by an experienced behaviorist. If it is essentially a "dog park" play time with people who have no structured play group experience, the best that will happen is to learn little with maybe worsening dog behaviors. And the worst would be fights. There is a real system to play groups. The best situation would utilize a very large fenced area divided in two by a fence across the middle.
     
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    PLAY GROUP TIME!! It will safely reveal a dog's true nature around other dogs. And it can be used to modify bad behavior by a real behaviorist.
     
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    How do you know that guy in the photo wasn't breaking into the home of a person who owned a Pitbull for protection just like a gun. Had it been a Vizsla, the owner would be dead and the Vizsla under the bed shaking and pissing on itself.
     
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    Bunk. Again you live up to your name. Pitbulls were originally bred to fight, but in most civilized countries, dog fighting has been banned. And when it was banned, breeders began to re-breed pitties to be dog-friendly and not so ready to fight. Some who still wanted to fight them illegally kept breeding for fighting. So now there are two types of pitbulls but the fighters are being phased out by society. And so today there are plenty of good pitbulls. And I know a few.
     
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    Where did they get the dog from? The pound? A neighbor who had puppies? Pet shop? You don't get pitbulls from these sources. You drop a grand or so and get it from reputable breeders who breed pits with good genes and a stable temperament. And when you own it you can't just throw it in the backyard and forget about it. They are extremely energetic and need to be exercised regularly and trained properly.

    Stupid people shouldn't own pits but unfortunately it attracts a lot of dumb people which is why they have such a bad reputation.
     
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    A grandmother owned a pitbull, when she put her garbage to the curb the dog killed her grandchild, the grandmother was not a dog baiter, and the dog was from a reputable breeder. The sad fact is that ALL pits are genetically direct descendants of dog fighters and the gene is dominant and can not be removed by any breeder.
     
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    I'll jump on the ban Pitbull bandwagon as soon as some of these dummies get on the ban AR-15's bandwagon.
     
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    No human has ever been killed by an assault rifle
     
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    So she's not well trained you say. If pitbulls were as bad as you claim, one would go after your dog whether she's wearing a collar or not. You're in denial.
     
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    Kids kill their parents.
    People kill themselves.
    Owners kill dogs.

    What's your point?
     
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    This is my point

    Real photo of retarded pitbull ripping off a face

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    True the pitbull would go after my dog, but since I can recall the dog to me instantly with the collar I would attack the vicious pitt and poke out it's eyes.......................or stick my finger into one eye all the way to it's brain rendering the dog well alive but about to die, a stick or knife works well for this too but a finger is all it takes

    Really
     
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    That doesn't even look purebred. It's a mutt.
     
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    You are in denial




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    Let's pretend your Vizsla is a Pellet gun and a Pitbull is an AR-15. An AR-15 is MUCH! more capable of killing MASS amounts of People and shouldn't be in the hands of civilians. Had that maniac in Las Vegas had a Revolver, there wouldn't have been even close to 58 people murdered and over 500 injured. Let's ban the Assault rifles than or if you don't like that idea, let's just ban Pitbulls from being adopted or bought by criminals and idiots. Assault rifles and Pitbulls in the wrong hands are deadly and whether a person is killed by one or the other, they're still dead.
     
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    And I'd like to see the people who thought Pugs were a good idea, forced to live with 50% breathing capacity. And those who thought Cavalier KC Spaniels were a good idea forced to live with their brain pushing their eyeballs out of sockets.

    Unfortunately all the damage has already been done, and all of the terrible 'breeds' that stupid humans have bred for stupid purposes .. or no purpose at all, are what they are.
     
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    Pugs were a random mutation, the sick dog that should never have been cared for and bred, and would have died in hours in the wild, but people feel sad for the weak and different one and keep and breed them.
     
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    COOL I finally get to use a leftist post with a twist :)

     

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