Trump to recognize Jerusalem as Israeli capital

Whoa there, Slick!! Hizbullah DOES follow the law!! Well, ok, uh, ISLAMIC Law (crucify, torture, kill non-believers in holy war), but the law nonetheless. Obama seems to approve, of course.

 

It IS a separate tax system, as the jizya is not paid by Muslims, period! I did NOT say that Muslims don't pay some tax, though, however. Religion is not so important that it should be the basis for determining which tax one pays!! Many people don't even BELIEVE in god/Allah/Jesus/religion, etc.

 

I spot you refuse to answer what sharia law abiding nation does this, and if this is indeed fair. All you got is your muslim hate of assumptions. That's not worth a thing. You're losing this newest debate again.

You're not answering my question about the taxation, and moved on to completely different subject.
I can only judge you lost an argument again. And so no... not going to your newest anti muslim rant,
since you refuse to answer 1 single question.

 

If I was in your shoes I probably would not answer either!...since it's real real tough to DEFEND a guy who believes women are inferior to men (Q4:34 - he got that wrong), that women are stupid (Q2:282), and that women deserve HALF the inheritance of the (obviously!!) superior Muslim male (Q4:11). I'd hate to be put in the position that Allah has put you in, intellectually.

PS No, you haven't won any argument - but I honestly do sense that you are a very intelligent person, and certainly one who believes in his convictions very passionately. I admire you for that.

 

Show us that Muslims, in the Islamic texts, specifically pay the jizya, then you'll have a point. Otherwise we are left to assume (rightly, I believe) that Islam is a discriminatory political belief system, disguised as a religion. Religions avoid scrutiny, largely....sadly.

 

I have,.. because after just 1 little question, you're dropping the subject like a brick and refuse to answer it and moved on to an entire different subject. lol

Uh no. You first go answer my question since I asked first. Where are your manners? lol

 

We'll never agree on this, like we'll never agree that Mohammad's pedophilia was acceptable (you believe.) That's ok.

A BIGGER issue, of course, is that the example that Mohammad set, for "all time", was a barbaric one - for example, Prophet Muhammad ordered the killing of the lady Asma Bint Marwan for writing critical poems about him/Islam. Not a good role model. If TRUMP did that he would be put in jail, not considered the "perfect example".

But religion instills fear in people, and robs them of their logic. I used to be religious, myself.

 

I wrote: "Show us that Muslims, in the Islamic texts, specifically pay the jizya, then you'll have a point.".....it's obvious by your reply that you can't do that.
If Modern Secular Humanists wrote that we want Muslims to pay a separate discriminatory tax (like Q9:29 does to Christians/Jews), people would (rightly) condemn us to no end! We are fairer than Allah, so we won't charge taxes based on RELIGION.
Income level, yes (a progressive Income Tax.) Amount of a sale ("sales tax" based on the price of the sale), yes. RELIGION, hell no!

 

Time for the US to leave the UN.

 

This is looking more and more like when the fat one went to the Temple Mount to (obviously) deliberately start the Intifada 2 - so as to get more sympathy for Israel.

Bibi The Pal Hater wants to make the Pal's look bad again...so he rings up mumbling ('United Shates'), senile Trump and tells him to talk about moving the embassy to Jerusalem now. Senile Boy obviously obliges.
And presto...Intifada Part 3.
It works for Senile Boy as well (he thinks) as another Intifada will drum up hatred for Muslim's (he hopes).

Unfortunately, the stupid Palestinian extremists appear to be falling hook, line and sinker for this obvious ploy.

As long as the Palestinian's (especially in the Gaza Strip) embrace violence so readily AND can be so easily goaded...they will NEVER get a country of their own.

Smarten up people. Violence is not the way, peaceful protest is the way.

 

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Excuse me to interfere but the Ottoman empire was on such country. The only reason the jyzia tax may not be implemented now is that there are not enough infidels in those countries and many Muslim countries have sunk into apostasy. Make no mistake, as long as they get stronger and rush to plunder the world, the jyza tax will be reintroduced and Sharia law restored to "full glory" (i.e. full abomination).
After all Muslims need someone to work (slaves and servants) and run the economy, so they cannot slay all the infidels. And if they pay an additional "infidel" tax, what's wrong with that, right?

 

Jordan continues to protest

and alliances may be shifting

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...rdanian-alliance-rethink-171208135729391.html

 

I still see you lost the debate by refusing to answer 1 little question about a topic you brought in, and keep moving on to new subjects.

Source me a sharia law abiding nation that does this? There are plenty around.

 

da fok?
Saudi Arabia got like 1.5 million Christians working for them in the country of around 28 million people.

Muslims pay a tax that the infidel do not. The jyzia is there to make it fair for all.

 

It does not matter. These countries have had ample time to come to some sort of peaceful solution but after decades of trying, and appeasements, they clearly cannot.Their threats, terrrorism, bombings, juvenile propaganda, etc. have only led to continuous and ongoing failures.

They do not deserve respect, any of them, and should be ignored. There is nothing the West can do to help them so they are going to have to accept that. If they do not, and continue their terrorist ways, then I suspect the reaction will be stronger than anything they have experienced in the past. The tensions are already building among those nations who have been most negatively affected by people from these areas.

Western nations are becoming just too tired of the ongoing ignorance and violence emanating from that part of the world.

 

Em I think you will find Jordan has always been the most open to the Zionists. You obviously missed also

Jordan is currently considered an ally and an alley of your and Israel's best friend South Arabia, try and get just the basics before you get started on nothing.

You tell me you do not respect your allies and should ignore them. I hope Ms May is listening and anyone else who still has any doubt about the insanity going on in the US.

Now a wise person respects both their enemies and their friends, someone like yourself who supports neither.....

We are not talking about the West here. The UK, France and the rest of Europe is not with you. Canada is not with you. Australia is not with you. New Zealand is not with you. In fact the whole world is against you. We are talking about only the US and Israel and her Arab friends. How patronising are you to expect people you have no respect for to want anything from you. However not respecting your allies usually has grave consequences.

They get where you are at and will respond appropriately.

Now you have Jordan as a terrorist country? No one is talking about terrorism. WW3 maybe.

Oh do you? You think maybe it would be good for Israel to do a complete Genocide to express how she has finished her European colonisation of Palestine? You believe Europe and the rest of the world would let you away with that?

I will tell you something. First your country is the one in the wrong here. No country can go without friends and that includes the US and keep your blinking genocides to the last century or expect something back like you have never dreamt of. Israel and the Middle East will likely be settled in the ME while the US continues into fascism. However the US going against international law and ceding territory it has no right to do is causing changes in alliances in the ME which will affect the US and I think may very well result in changes in alliances in the West as well. You will need to learn to live with that. You, the US and god help it people like you who do not even believe in respecting allies are likely to find out you have bitten off what you did not imagine. Of course a war between your extremists Christians, extremists Jews and extremists Muslims may be the highlight of that....the rest of us will look to see where there is possibility of defeating you and regaining justice.

No, nothing to do with Western Nations. You are on your own in this one. That was made completely clear at the UN last night. You are the pariah.

Now I only answered this because I am waiting on a call. I can't be bothered with this kind of stuff

 

Are they citizens or just gastarbeiters?

Yeah, right.

 

Because you are talking about people whose religion overtakes reason. Muhammed was there one night, and ascended into heaven, so it is the third most holy city in Islam. However, Jews and Christians were there before there ever was a Muhammed.

 

You cannot possibly think of any other reasons?

 

and now he is threatening the Saud's!

The Trump administration says the U.S. might curtail its support for Riyadh’s military campaign in Yemen unless the kingdom allows more humanitarian aid in

 

Do you mean the Israeli people and their country?

That is good to hear, and not unknown, but it changes nothing.

You seem to be posting before understanding what you are responding to. I was clearly referring to countries in the Middle East. Do you really believe the UK will turn on the US and side with the Arabs? Or Muslims? As important, do any of these countries actually believe this? If so it is otherworldly stuff and explains, perhaps, some of their behavior.

Do not know where you got that nugget but it is not something I said or would have said. <Mod Edit- Rule 3/4> That is an old Muslim game and one of the reasons that they have not had much positive influence in the world..

Is it your understanding or belief that Australia or New Zealand or Canada or any western nation would turn on the United States and side, for example, with Saudi Arabia?? You must think these people are insane!

And what do you suppose those "grave consequences" might be? Any ideas at all?

What do you suppose that appropriate response might be?

I am talking of Islamic terrorism, international in its scope. If WW3 erupts who do you think will form together on each side? Just Israel and the USA against everyone else?

The only nations which have commited genocide in recent years have been Muslim dominated, and never sponsored by either Israel or the US.

For moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem??And you are talking of WW3 as a consequence? Incredible! Your hatreds run too deep, which is why the real world is getting sick of this ongoing state sanctioned ignorance and stupidity in the Muslim world.

Can you give me a brief example of what you have in mind?

Too much Al Jazzeera.

I think the country will adjust to that quite well

The "extremist" Christians and "extremist" Jews are not causing or creating world wide terrorism. Only the most backward major religion in world history is doing that.

And you feel the UN influences Australia the UK and France against the US, huh? OK! That is it! No more Al Jazzeera for you!

 

There hasn't been any Jizya tax in hundreds of years.. and it was ONLY tax on able-bodied young men who wanted to be EXEMPT from military defense of their community.

Why don't you LEARN something?

 

Even illegal aliens in the US pay taxes. So your question is rather irrelevant.

They pay zakat. So yeah right indeed.
How is it you know about a non existent taxation for non muslims, but not of an existing taxation for muslims? Guess somebody is reading hate sites and think its all true. lol

 

Jews had been banned from Jerusalem since the Bar Kochba revolt up until the Treaty of Omar AFTER the death of Muhammed.

The failed Bar Kokhba revolt, which is marked today by Jews around the world with the holiday of Lag Ba’omer, itself celebrated with bonfires, was one of the most traumatic events in the history of the Jewish people, a history with no shortage of traumatic events. As a result of the revolt the Jewish community in Judea was eliminated, the Roman province of Judea became the province of Palestine and Jews were barred from entering Jerusalem.
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.591302

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.591302

Make some effort to learn some history.