After passage of tax bill, a White House thank-fest

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    Donald Trump lost the majority vote.

    I think I might know a little more about AIM, and other movements in the Native American population having been married to a Trudell from the Nairobi Reservation. Having said that, since when do numbers matter to the right wing? If you have 1 Democrat support your position you claim it to be "bi-partisan". Yet if 20 Republicans support a Democrat position suddenly it is "Democrat Partisanhip". Perhaps that is part of what is wrong with America today. Too much bull ****, and not enough common sense, or character. So, you want to silence, or mock, the voice of the few even though their position is more correct then yours the exception being the support for Trump.
     
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    Is that why California is scrambling to protect their rich, because it is such a windfall for them?
     
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    Obama didn't grovel save for in the minds of the mindless. However, Trump has nothing but praise for tyrants such as Putin, Endrogen, Xi, and even Jong-un.

    Do you think Trump will ever enact the sanctions on Russia that Congress voted into law?
     
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    Support that claim if you can. Or are you referring to protecting their homes from the fires?
     
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    How many world leaders has Trump bowed before?
     
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    Apologizing for foreign policy blunders is NOT groveling.
     
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    And republicans are railing at liberals for actions they were doing not long ago.

    What I don;t understand is how this blatant denial of recent history is so readily accepted by people like you without a shred of embarrassment. Intellectual integrity does not appear to be a requirement for blind partisanship.
     
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    Congress is losing.
     
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    Yeah, about that ...
     
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    So you can't actually offer up any examples, just there are "heaps". Given your use of the term, I suspect you have no clue what it actually means and what it applies to.

    No you think you are speaking for most, but I see no evidence of that being true.

    No, I commented on the fact that you have a huge double standard and demonstrate little intellectual consistency in your support of trump and denigration of democrats.
     
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    I don't know. I used to live in San Diego but it got too crowded so now I live in Tucson.
     
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    I often wonder what universe I'm in myself, but that's a topic for another day. Nevertheless, I remember Obama flat-out saying "I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone...And I can use that pen to sign executive orders," I mean, how else CAN you take that but him saying that he could do whatever he wanted and to heck with Congress?

    You know I have no real love for Trump and that the guy IS a huckster. Look where he came from, everyone expected as much - it''s no real surprise that he is. I've also repeatedly said my support for Trump begins and ends with his not being Hillary. So why it's an issue at all that he IS self-aggrandizing is a bit surprising. He's always been that way, is this something people suddenly realized or what? But I'll link the website AGAIN and note that what we hear about Trump and his greatness is magnitudes less that what we heard about Obama. I'll say it again: There's almost no one out there praising Trump as the messiah among his supporters. There were plenty just in the press alone doing so. There were classrooms having their kids singing songs about Obama in some seriously scary North Korea level kowtowing. And I think what is happening - and correct me if I'm wrong here, but I look at all this and see the left projecting how they felt about their anointed one onto the right and how they THINK they feel about Trump - and what do they conclude? That the right MUST think of Trump as some kind of messiah because that's what many on the left thought of Obama. My wife, sister, and mother-in-Law are Trump supporters, and none of them think of him as anything more than a politician who they believe will take the country in the right direction and not some kind of god-emperor. I can't say the same for what many of Obama's supporters thought of him.

    A number of Conservatives I know are very uncomfortable with Trumps lack of class and wish he'd stay off Twitter - and I agree with them on that - but on the other hand the general feeling I get is that it's a small price to pay for getting the country and the economy back on track. Heck, weren't a lot of Liberals uncomfortable with Hillary's long history of corruption, scandals, and veiled racism (Black teen superpredators et al) and yet were willing to overlook that because they agreed with her on the issues? It works both ways here.
     
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    Isn't Nairobi where Barack Obama was born ?

    John Trudell...the self appointed spokeshole for all Native Americans.

    The BIA is the injun's version of the reconquista Brown Berets.

    John Trudell occupies Alcatraz Island and couldn't survive living off the land. What was accomplished except looking stupid.

    The Brown Berets occupied Santa Catalina Island and couldn't find any taco trucks. What did they accomplish ?

    The BIA should have just called themselves the Red Panthers (Black Panthers) So much in common.
     
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    So you are saying the democrat from California is right wing?
     
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    Not at all. Just dishonest like the hypocritical right wing.
     
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    So you don’t think the liberal rich in California have a problem with the new taxes.
     
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    I think the rich are crooked no matter what party affiliation they have. Perhaps that is why Republicans tend to support them more so then Democrats.
     
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    LOL, the democrat whining about the rich being taxed more in California is a republican?
     
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    It is if they weren't his specific blunders. It is not for him to second guess the decisions made by others during circumstances he doesn't understand...
     
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    You'd need to be more specific, I have no idea what you are talking about. Give me an example of where you can cite my hypocrisy or you sound like some one who clearly is just whining about nothing...
     
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    So you do not recall what republicans said and did during Obama's presidency? HOw short partisan memory seems to be.

    I am not at all surprised that trumpettes ignoring or forgetting history even if it was only a few years ago.
     
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    Well, in my universe, your argument is a good one against TRUMP. Perhaps in your universe what prompted obama to say that - complete republican intransigence in congress to cooperation and compromise - never happened.

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    Interesting perspective. What does "getting the economy back on track" mean in reality?

    Seems to me that the steep climb back from the pits has been steady resulting in years of increasing record corporate profits, years of steadily declining unemployment, years of significant deficit reduction and years of stock market increases.
     
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    You do t see what happened in Virginia and Alabama as an omen?You talk about liberals being Hypocritical but maybe you should look at yourself. You have been railing on Democrats and blaming them for everything and giving them no credit.
     

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