Al Gore: ‘Bitter cold’ is ‘exactly what we should expect

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    http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/01...hat-we-should-expect-from-the-climate-crisis/




    This is exactly - exactly - what global warming critics have been saying. For years it was 'global warming this and global warming that'. Now, when it's perfectly obvious that is not happening any weather event that gets TV coverage is 'certified proof' of mythical climate change that goes in every direction: hot, cold, wet, dry.
     
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    17 studies in 2017 are predicting global cooling. Al may prove them all wrong if only he can personally generate enough hot air in the interim... All are focusing on the mechanical physics of solar potential. Stay tuned.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.3103/S088459131202002X

    Good reading.
     
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    Source for the 17 studies?
     
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    2017 was the hottest year on record without an El Nino. The Earth is still getting warmer.

    As for the bitter cold and extreme cold events like we are currently experiencing in the US, yes, that is still consistent with what the computer models predict as it relates to global warming.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-global-warming-harsher-winter/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/climate/cold-climate-change.html
     
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    Being that you're also using the internet currently, a little google could go a long way to self enable your own learning. Have fun.
     
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    I wonder how many liberals know that the entirety of all this "global warming data" is 100% theoretical.

    Heh, some of the computer generated forecasts can be altered depending on what CPU runs the model.

    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/MWR-D-12-00352.1?af=R&

    Its the greatest scam in human histroy, haha.
     
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    So many folks out there that are flat out refuting this modular approach. Terms like "Witchcraft" "insanity" etc... The deal is this. Jet stream activity is driven by disparity. Warming creates uniformity. Clearly, if models are "predicting" this as a function of warming, they are fundamentally wrong.
     
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    Unable to provide a source, I understand.
     
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    The flaw I see with your reasoning is that while the long-term effects of warming might be more uniformity, there is a whole lot of time and transition period which occurs in the interim. To ignore the disruptions to the current global temperatures in disparate manners, like the fact that the arctic regions are experiencing a much greater degree of warming than the central latitudes is folly.

    But I am willing to listen - I am just not going to take the opinion of some anonymous dude online, so provide a source.
     
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    Laughing to hide the tears, I understand. You'll be OK.
     
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    I wonder how many liberals know that the entirety of all this "global warming data" is 100% theoretical.

    Heh, some of the computer generated forecasts can be altered depending on what CPU runs the model.

    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/MWR-D-12-00352.1?af=R&

    Its the greatest scam in human histroy, haha.
     
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    You didn’t know the hysteria is based solely on computer modeling?
     
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    There is prodigious documentation/study of this, all maintaining the same outcome, as I've stated it. Warming reduces the fluctuations, the more generalized it becomes. Heat dissipation or transfer becomes less likely, and less volatile. The inducement of more variation also results in the production of more flux and results in more potential in the atmosphere.

    The reality is that the science is in fact finally winning out here.
     
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    Arent you ashamed to not be able to see the difference between weather and climate?

    In Germany we now have mediterranean plants surviving outside in the winter. The glaciers retreat evrywhere in the alps, the andes, Himalaya.

    We can watch in real time how islands in the indian ocean and pacific disappear at a rate ever seen before. Entire coral reefs bleech out, because corals cant take the heat.

    USA lacks already in evry aspect regarding technology. How long do you plan to cling to obsolete technology?

    he funny irony is, that this idiotic denial is strongest in mid western USA. This area will disappear in the Western interior Seaway. Thanks god.
     
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    I added one, start with that. Then look for yourself. I'm not here to be your crutch.
     
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    You mean the Midwest that has been showing overall cooling for decades or is it the complete lack of any visible sea level acceleration?
     
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    How do you explain that now plants survive in Germany that never survived in Germany during the last 120.000 years?

    How do you explain our glaciers in Germany lose their mass at an alarming rate? How do you explain, that our weather patterns in Germany get more and more unusual?
     
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    The sea level in the baltic sea did raise by 19cm during the last 12 years. In Germany we had evry year a new record high temperatur during the last 17 years.
     
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    Again, I want to see a source.
     
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    Reviewing now.

    Your source was published in 2012. Here's a quote from the abstract.

    "This will lead to a drop in temperature in approximately 2014."

    Now, I grant you that "approximate" when dealing with climate change predictions should be fairly broad (they note +/- 11 years, and so they still have about 7 years to go), but given that 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 all set records for highest temperature on record (the last being one without an El Nino), I don't know how much faith you should place in that study.

    Furthermore, the study notes that the decrease in solar activity has been monitored since the 1990s. The notion that solar activity from roughly 30 years ago will only start to play out in the near future - especially as compared to the really close relationship seen between the increase in CO2 concentration and global temperatures - is a really difficult argument to swallow.
     
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    It's always Hilarious to see open ignorance about 'Global" Climate Change
     
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    Look to your own history. It wasn't all that long ago that most of the glaciers you now know in the Alps weren't there, at all. Roman accounts talk of ice free mountains which Hannibal used to troop his elephants across. The comment about plant propagation isn't specific enough to have a conversation about. There are simply too many potential variables that would contribute to it, that you haven't identified. I can think of several right off the top, genetic mutation, species invasion, intentional introduction. Been to the Zugsptize recently? Seems to be having a bang up year this year....
     
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