Al Gore: ‘Bitter cold’ is ‘exactly what we should expect

...for the microwave sounders used in the UAH and RSS datasets which were not designed to record a global mean temperature. They're primary purpose is for inputs into numerical weather prediction models.

 

What if it is evolutionary survival of certain plants ?

 

Last year's Winter down here in Louisiana sucked and was very mild. I don't think we saw 32 F more than once. I've had my faucets dripping for an entire week because we've had temps close to 13° and I don't want my pipes freezing up. I put plywood around the banisters of of my deck with dog beds and a lot of hay to keep my pups from becoming pupsicles. Our high this week was 34°...

Ever seen a football game like this? I forget when this happened, but it was sometime last month. I mean, I've watched snowy games, but NEVER something like this.











And I thought the Army/Navy game I watched was bad til the company attorney came in that following Monday and told me about the one above.

 

We need data that goes back hundreds and even thousands of years. Things happened prior to the industrial revolution that caused change. Who's to say those same circumstances are not occurring now? I believe in climate change, I just don't believe that man can do one thing about it, short of building a dome overhead.

 

Well, then we are on the same page. I too acknowledge that humans are primarily response. However, I don't think it's as bad as alarmists say. And I don't think we should or even could do anything about it anyway.

 

So, all you really had to say was, you're right. So many fewer words you'd have to put into your google translator.. I suppose that you could live your life never using things like seatbelts. Antibiotics, telephones for that matter. But I doubt it. Perhaps, the next time you drive past Graf or KTown, you'll nod appreciatively towards all of the US soldiers/airmen, who maintain your little bubble for you. As for the rest of the jingoistic BS, nice to see. The nationalism is impressive. Congrats on creating your insanely hot blob of helium. Do you suppose it will contribute to the overall warming?

 

And yet, I wasn't. I have, and consistently always do beg for impact though. As in, so what? And the real credibility issue isn't that it can be calculated, it's about the certainty to which the calculation has significant or authority. So, who cares? If we are only 40% certain that the hundredth of a degree was "real" what impact does that produce? I know I can't feel the difference.

 

You cant seriously think there's real substance there do you?

 

That's quite a reach.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weathe...ame-dangerous-cold-blanketing-eastern-n834986

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/climate/cold-climate-change.html

 

Why is the entire history of the planet relevant to climate change?

 

I don't know.

This time last year we had 1 m of snow. This year we had 2 inches of snow and that was it. Long gone, it is dry and sunny now.
Today it was like 10+ degrees C.

 

And yet, accurate none the less. For example, the effect of meteor impacts, super volcano eruptions, etc. But hey the sand is warm around ones ears I suppose....

 

Fair enough. I think the problem lies with the way the uncertainty is presented. By saying there's a 40% certainty that 2017 was the second warmest the implication is often that there's a possibility that 2017 was actually the coldest when in reality that couldn't be further from the truth. So yeah, maybe 2017 was the 3rd warmest and not the 2nd warmest. But if you're assigned the task of ranking years at the end of the day you still have to make a list and put the years in the slot you think is best. It's doesn't mean the whole method is fraudulent.

 

Still waiting on a link for the other 16 studies you claim exist which predict global cooling?

While you're at it, would you mind telling me how many studies predict global warming?

 

Thank you!

Finally someone willing to put a name to a potential cause of rapid climate change outside of human intervention.

Tell me, have there been any meteor impacts or super volcano eruptions in the last 150 years which would cause the current climate warming?

 

Agreed but still far more accurate than the GCHN network

 

A large share of our "global warming comes from the western Antarctic peninsula which has a huge geothermal influence.

 

I completely agree. GCHN has a lot of issues. Urban heat island, movement of stations, etc. I suspect it's a nightmare to try and post process that. The groups using that dataset are consistently finding and correcting bugs as a result of how it's post processed.

 

Perhaps not, but the inflammatory mouth breathing that goes with it surely begs credulity. Which is why it is vital we have an idea of the actual impact. Not "projected impacts" or fantasy predictions al la ice free polar regions or other BS. Science isn't about the absurd vulgarity of the charlatans like Al Bore.

 

Yep always finding new bugs and assuring us how accurate they are at the same time.

Some people will believe anything an "expert" tells them.

 

Annoying isn't one of your better qualities. Of course it's too much to ask you to actually read to forum isn't it? I provided links to 5 that were easy to get to, start there. And then, ask yourself why volume matters at all? I know, this might take time. I'm willing to invest....

 

Hey, at least we agree on something. That is...Al Gore is an idiot. Sorry, I try not make personal attacks on here, but Al Gore kind of deserves it.

 

Math is racist.

 

Solar activity. Cosmic particulate interactions, natural rebounding from the deep effects of previous solar inactivity. I mean, there's a list. A long one. Perhaps particulate refraction diminished sufficient to amplify the solar maximums. Your insistence on singularity is insular and isn't helping your case. Just sayin....