Quite a few times on this forum I've been accused of being 'a Kremlin intelligence bureaucrat', but in these days of disinformation, misinformation, fake news, and blatant scaremongering (as witness the MoD's Gen. Nick Carter's ludicrous speech yesterday, which contained every bloody project fear cliche in the book, viz. 'Russia's 'aggressive' military exercises preparatory to their attack upon northern Europe' (as if it's already been planned? ) and it 'could happen sooner than we think' and is a 'clear and present danger' , but I'm a patriotic Englishman who, if he sees something threatening my country - and people like the above personage are more of a threat to my country than Russia is, then I'll say so, and I'll say so because I have young grandchildren. Actually not only are those like Carter an unwitting threat to my country, in the self-serving interest to get more funding for their outfit, they're a threat to world peace. There's only one 'clear and present danger' on this planet today, and it's the member countries of NATO, not Putin. Jeezus I can't believe I'm having to say this!
Partizan: Is your argument that no one, or only a tiny insignificant minority, of Ukrainians collaborated with the Nazis during WWII, and that to believe otherwise is to fall for Kremlin propaganda? And the same for the Tatars?
Anything to distract from the now undeniable fact that senior members of the Trump team definitely conspired to collude with Russia on Clinton dirt.
Junior's emails and the Papadopoulos confession. Those two, Kushner and Manafort all conspired to meet with Russians for the purpose of getting dirt on Clinton. Their new excuse is that their conspiracy failed and the Russians didn't deliver the goods.
Lol, literacy is not a theory. They met with Russians for that express purpose. Sorry, but there is no alternative. We have their own words. To deny that is to deny objective reality, although that tactic has become quite common among Trump's base.
Good post, but I have to disagree with this part: "but in these days of disinformation, misinformation, fake news, and blatant scaremongering (as witness the MoD's Gen. Nick Carter's ludicrous speech yesterday, which contained every bloody project fear cliche in the book, viz. 'Russia's 'aggressive' military exercises preparatory to their attack upon northern Europe' (as if it's already been planned? )" It is the job of a military's leadership to plan for any possible contingency; regardless of it's unlikelihood. If they don't have, at least, an outline of an attack plan on Western Europe, they're not doing their jobs. There is no way to know, but I would bet money that in some file cabinet in The Pentagon there is a plan to invade Mexico, on a widescale basis, and attack cartels. It's a reality that people may not like, but it is absolutely no indication of a threat.
Do start reading. Papadopoulos confessed to contact with Russians over this. Junior's emails show the same. Are you willing to actually read their words? Of course not.
Well, no, not every american knows much about this issue. Our MSM and gov't insures that. I have suggested the paranoid here read Gen. Smedley's pamphlet War is a Racket. He was the highest decorated marine officer ever, when he lived and is credited with busting out the elites who were in the process of a coup against FDR to take him down. So, a real patriot, instead of these war mongers who call themselves patriots. Of course if some here did read Smedley's great reveal, of course they would accuse him of being a russian stooge. lol But unless you do get the inside info from a real patriot and general, you will never understand why the gov't here operates in the manner that it does. And so, in ignorance you will form conclusions ,which are as disconnected from reality as those who believe Alice in Wonderland was a nonfictional book. And then you will in your delusion, VOTE. Clever of our propaganda outlets, huh? Speaking of propaganda, here is some russian propaganda for you, or so we are told by MSM and congress, and yet, everything this propaganda says is factual. Including what William Binney of the NSA tries to tells the american fools about their own intel. But of course, this comes from RT so it is pure propaganda...except it is factual. When the factual is called propaganda, we got huge problems with the cognitive dissonance of partisans, on both sides, btw. And that is why america is in the mess it is in. A tale told by idiots. Of course, you will never hear what Binney just said in our MSM. For the truth is not what MSM deals in very much, due to their CIA handlers. Operation Mockingbird never died, it just went dark. Which is the way the CIA operates. The same CIA that Schumer said could get trump 6 ways from sunday, evidencing these unelected men are much more powerful than a president, and even congress, and they spy on their own oversight committee. All in the interest of a Constitutional Republic of course!!! The same Constitution which the CIA pays no attention to and their oversight committee allows it. All for the Constitutional republic of course!!! LOL Personally I do not believe my gov't has to operate in the manner that it does, full of deciet and lies, full of secrecy to hide their unconstututional actions, and with factions all to willing to run a soft coup on a president. And of course, refusing to represent the best interests of the american people, as evidenced by Princeton. Oh, that big story coming out of Princeton a few years ago got hardly any coverage at all, in MSM. But MSM will never tell 300 plus americans that their gov't is not by and for the people, and that it no longer will represent anyone's interests but our elite special interests. The money boys who finance their campaigns. Perhaps one day the People will take back their gov't, but since the gov't has the ability to protect itself from its own citizens, due to the National Security State, the only revolution by the People would have to be one that did not use the internet nor phones for communication, not could the patriots have smart TVs, or any other device in their home which is capable of being Big Brother. Of course perhaps our gov't will clean its own self up. Perhaps one day we will get people elected who will not be owned by special interests, and the military industrial national security state complex. But I would not hold my breath . Worrying about russia and Putin while our own nation is run by treasonous bastards is down the rabbit hole, Alice in Wonderland stuff.
There must always be an Orwellian Bogey Man, and the Russian guy with a keyboard who can bend your public screwal educated mind on Facebook and Twatter.
So meeting with another nation we are not at war with is what? Against federal law? Yet it is ok to pay a proxy to talk to russian state actors to get dirt on trump? Trump's crowd got nothing to use on hillary from the russian lawyer who was just trying to get something else from trump, some help on adoptions. Remember? No doubt americans paid russian state actors for dirt on trump. So russia wanted trump to be beat, by helping out his enemies? Now, use the brain once more, and ask yourselves this. If Russia wanted to help trump win, why did they not turn over those 30 thousand bleached out emails from hillary? After all we are told russia hacked and got what they wanted. And yet they never made it to assange. Yet we are also told assange is a russian agent. lol Assange would have loved to release those deleted emails, to hurt hillary who asked more than once why we couldn't just drone him? Russiaphobia is only experienced by those who have been brainwashed by our propaganda, and are not intelligent enough to spot propaganda. Demonization is one of the tactics of propaganda. It is easy to spot, And our propaganda has to be really good, for we so far do not show up at night to take away dissidents, who are a threat to this Corporate State. And indeed it is.