House Intelligence memo released: What it says

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    Releasethefisawarrant alrrady exists...is that good enough?
    Republicans don't want it released or trump would have done it by now.
     
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    Nothing you said contradicts my point that Andrew McCabe did not, and is not quoted as saying or implying that the dossier was part of the FISA application. That was hawgsalot's claim.

    "Would not have sought" (by the way, the memo does not actually quote him) is not the same as "part of the application."

    But let's try and address something which is in the memo. What does the memo say is the reason that the FBI investigation into Trump and Russia (read: not Carter Page at a time when he was no longer part of the Trump campaign) started?
     
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    LOL... No you're not....... My sarcasm detector caught that in a second... the bold helped too...
     
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    GreenBayMatters hit the nail on the head with you
    you over and over again report what anomynios sources tell CNN MSNBC NY Time WaPO as facts but when a anomynios source is used by anyone else all of a sudden they aren't credible
    This is why you have no credibility or integrity on these forums you so full of hypocrisy and double standards
     
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    Coffee boy??
     
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    McCabe worked for the FBI...his testimony is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more confidential than Glenn ****ing Simpson.
     
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  7. The Mello Guy

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    And I'm curious the reason you're fine with them releasing this memo and absolutely nothing to support if while trumps own FBI says it's not accurate.
     
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    Well Lordy, guess that will teach the SOB's at the FBI and DOJ to not withhold information from congress. or lie to FISC. It leads to people jumping to conclusions. Not that those conclusions will be proven false, BTW.
     
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    That's the one
     
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    He figures that all the Left has to do is endlessly howl NOTHING BURGER and that therefore, magically, all investigations into upper level FBI wrongdoing and political collusion with the DNC AND Russia on their part will just . . . fade . . . away. Wishful thinking on the part of these increasingly anxious leftists. They remember when not only Obama but every leftist hiding behind his skirt was untouchable for eight years. Somehow they think that being untouchable is their right and the natural way of things in this nation. They are wrong.
     
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    Answer my curious question and I'll answer yours.
     
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    Nice summary and 100% correct. :applause:
     
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    No. The hashtag is not even trending yet. Try harder or get some Democrat bots to help you.
     
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    Yes, but The Communist Party is so very cumbersome as a title; even if it is more accurate.
     
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    let me fix you reply for you


    I am shocked that their public position is that they are not trying to undermine the Mueller probe even though Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, and thus, Robert Mueller by your bias partisan assumed extension, are clearly being discussed in a negative light here


    No were in the Memo was Mueller or the special council mentioned or even implied

    I know you are desperately wanting to make this about Mueller in the special council so to assign an sinister motive to the Memo to either distract or discredit it
    we all know you got this from CNN and MSNBC because they are attempting this bull crap line of attack all day
    it isn't working for them and it isn't going to work for you
     
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    "This will make it far more difficult for the Intelligence Committees to conduct meaningful, bipartisan oversight of intelligence activities in the future," he said in a statement. "This action was also taken without regard to the damage it could do to our ability to protect Americans from threats around the globe."

    "Law enforcement opposes this," tweeted Sen. Tim Kaine, a Virginia Democrat. "The intelligence community opposes this. Even many Republicans oppose this. This is dangerous territory, it disrespects law enforcement, and it's an alarming partisan attack on efforts to investigate hostile foreign interference in our democracy."
     
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    The WH has offerred to help Democrats release any additional documents that they would like to release. I doubt the offer will be accepted.

    Steele was retained for the Democrat-funded anti-Trump project by the research firm Fusion GPS. At Fusion, he collaborated with Nellie Ohr, the wife of then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr — a senior Justice Department official who worked closely with the deputy attorneys general who approved the FISA warrants. Steele met with Ohr both before and after he was terminated as an FBI source. In September 2016 (i.e., before the first warrant application), the memo recounts that Steele told Ohr he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.”

    After formally terminating Steele, the FBI periodically interviewed Associate Deputy Attorney General Ohr, who reported on his meetings with Steele. This enabled the bureau indirectly to maintain Steele as an information source. Ohr eventually transmitted to the FBI “all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and the Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS.”

    The FBI concealed from the FISA court that Steele was paid $160,000 by the Clinton campaign and the DNC, through Fusion GPS and a law firm. His stated determination to prevent a Trump presidency was also concealed from the FISA court.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-fisa-memo-confirms-steele-dossier-suspicions

    So the idea that Dems are jumping up and down to release even more information? That's pretty fanciful.
     
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    Will Trump fire Mueller?
     
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    We don't contractout to the Russian troll farm that team trump utilized
     
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    The w tire Russia case against Trump should basically be tossed out Since the source for starting it in the first place was a complete farce. FIRE everyone.
     
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    It was done by their side, hence not damning by definition.
     
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    You mean the FBI doesn't want to burn their own sources and endanger national security? The nerve of them. It proves a conspiracy!

    And it wasn't used as the primary reason for the FISA warrant, so all your raving is in vain.

    And even if it was, the info was accurate, so it would be valid.

    That's what it comes down to. Nunes lied. The FBI did nothing improper.

    And you're making Carter Page, a Russian patsy, your poster boy. That probably wasn't the best choice for the GOP, siding with a Russian agent instead of the FBI. It makes you look like traitors.

    No, according to claims by Nunes. Those are two entirely different things.

    Gee, maybe from the recordings of Page hobnobbing with Russian agents since 2013? Just a possibility.
     
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    wonder what Carter Page did for the Campaign that Trump and Republicans are so worried about?

    Trump only picks the best of the best, based on what we know about Carter Page, what was he the best at other then his connections with Russia?
     
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    Strozks wife might do him before he resigns. All four you mentioned there are going to get seriously investigated and it could spread to other areas.

    I don't see how Comey doesnt get investigated too... He signed the FISA request.. Him and Strozk worked closely on Clinton's email scandal and they together cleared her. Then Strozk gets caught up in article 5 of that memo? Conspiring to leak classified info to the media?

    Uhhhh yeah lots of things to look at.

    A former FBI guy former and Chair of the Intelligence commttee today a Republican Mike Roger's said on NPR this is ugly. Done incorrectly by Nunes because it incomplete. To yes go get all the bad guys but to do it this way was bad. I could literally hear in his voice his struggling with his FBI loyalties. These guys are super super loyal to each other. He didn't like their dirty laundry being exposed and politicized. It's like he felt they are too good for that.

    Even though it was their decision to get involved in politics in the first place!

    I agree the memo is incomplete but the investigations aren't done and it is very apparent that Comey, McCabe, Ohr, Page and others have been politicized and abused their powers so Mike Rogers can go jump in a lake.
     
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    yes the lower rank sheep dont understand...but you know who did understand what would happen if a guy like trump got in?....thats right Hillary. She understood that they were goin to jail without passing go if Trump won.
     

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