House Intelligence memo released: What it says

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  1. GreenBayMatters

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    What does this mean for the use of a FISA warrant on Page and the Trump campaign? Asking for a friend.




    That's...interesting. Am I the *only* person on Twitter that remembers Carter Page RESIGNED and stepped away from the Trump campaign team on Sept. 26, 2016, BEFORE this warrant was even granted by the FISA Court? [​IMG]
     
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    What crime is Page guilty of?
     
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    So let me get this right.

    Hillary Clinton was depositing five hundred and forty six million dollars, in cash, at the teller window next to me. She tells the teller that the money is from the Haiti relief fund and with it she's buying an election. I overhear the conversation and steal the huge bag of cash that Hillary stole from Haiti and give it back to Haiti.

    The conversation was captured by the NSA who unmasked me and made it all public.

    Question:

    A. Would the world think me a villain or a hero?

    B. Would Jimmy Comey and Robert Mueller charge me for a process crime?

    C. Would the 9th Circuit rule that the money be returned to Hillary?
     
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    Please provide a link. BTW, are you in favor of hanging him or would you prefer he face a firing squad?
     
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    Nope. One can be guilty and still have one's civil rights violated.

    Ron, you just need to go down to the cop shop and give them your keys. Tell them it's cool to search at any time. Tell 'em where the nude videos of your wife are. Give them permission to copy them to the cloud. It's all good.
     
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    I have been asking for that link also
     
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    Fer crissake, who would want to work for you? They played by the rules as they're enforced currently and you want to tighten up. Fine, but this sh*t about punishing people is nauseating. They had reason to look at this guy, so they didn't pull this out of their arse.
     
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    How would I know? Maybe they looked at the guy and decided he didn't commit a crime. Maybe they didn't think they had enough for a conviction. Maybe they're going to charge him. Maybe he's cooperating. Maybe, maybe, maybe...
     
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    We don't know that they had a reason, that's the *******n point. When the government misrepresents evidence all bets are off. Truth can never ever be found once that road is traveled.
     
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    What horse pucky. If they played by the rules an had sufficient grounds against Page, they wouldn't have included the dossier to get the warrant. Your grasping for justification for bad actions is astonishing. Fer crissake, who would want to be prosecuted by you as the D.A.?
     
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    So, the news is full of maybe and there can't be a conclusion drawn yet by the legal authorities. Yes, we are on the same page.
     
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    If Mueller is truly interested in investigating Russian interference with the election, to be fair he should be looking at evidence which disproves aspects of it.

    Yep. Cause if Hillary was guilty, so was Obama. Why isnt there a memo on the bogus intel report Crowdstrike wrote? Solicited by Perkins Coie & funded by DNC/HRC. Has Mueller questioned them? NOPE. Can Mueller prove Russia hacked/leaked to wikileaks? NOPE. WTF is he investigating?
    [​IMG]
     
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    You have stumped them. Why? A Democrat committed the crime. Don't you take responsibility for their aneurism or their heart attack? They might be gagging on their own vomit. My gosh, why tell them the way it is?
     
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    The system has its faults. I went to a traffic court and pointed out how their was no speed limit sign and no sign saying I was in a municipality and subject to their speed limits. I was well under the speed limit for a state highway. The judge completely ignored my testimony and my cross examination of the cop where the cop couldn't say where the sign was located. In fact, there was no sign. Judge McGoo convicted me anyway. I pointed out in a brief comment to the court he was wrong in saying there was a sign, that no testimony had been submitted indicating one existed, and that I felt the case had been wrongly decided. He got all nasty and said I was challenging the court. I could have appealed his decision, maybe gotten it reversed, but it wasn't worth my time. That's how things go sometimes.

    At one time, I was a credit manager who used small claims court to collect from people. I was a lay person fighting lay people. Do you want to make collecting a few hundred bucks into a lawyer thing? Who would lend anyone small amounts of money under the circumstances?

    Pot users, too. But on the opiods, there are a lot of people who have lousy healthcare, so the doctor prescribed opiods to relieve their pain instead of sending them to rehab or surgery. They got hooked and now they're using street drugs because they've been cut off. They're average folks trying to get by, but they're caught up in the f*ing GOP "war on drugs." Want to know why I'm not a Republican? That's part of it.

    The GOP sold out to big business that works over little guys who own mom and pop corner stores, gas stations, motels, and just about anything a big chain can move in on. The big guys move in and undersell the little guy until he breaks, then raised the price even higher after he's killed off.

    You guys slobbering over the GOP are suckers. (No, I'm not a Democrat because I don't like them, either, and I could go on with my reasons.)

    President Bone Spurs is "the swamp."
    Prescription drugs in the U.S. are the highest cost by far in the world.

    Take this drug for treating skin to stop skin cancer from happening.... imiquimod

    price in india .... https://www.alldaychemist.com/imiquad.html

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    Enlighten me.
     
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    Well you connect Drugs to FISA and so far, you have not persuaded me to connect FISA to drug issues.
    I have been on both ends at small claims court. I have a good story. I purchased brand new a Cadillac and during the negotiation, the sales woman gave me in writing the full cash price. I was paying cash for the car. I did not notice but she had shown the license fees, about $1,000 but the total did not reflect this. Anyway, I paid cash and took the final manager approved receipt and drove away. Several days later, i got a phone call to show up with $1000. I told them I went by the several charges list and the final receipt which had what I had paid.

    They took it to small claims. There i had submitted to the court the total story. Details not shown here since it involved conversations they had with me. The judge calls me to his bench and announced to me he would rule for the plaintiff and not me for this reason. Years back, he was working as a lawyer and plead a case like mine and lost his case. So he used that as his excuse to refuse to hear any testimony and i ended up paying the $1000. A part of my complaint reply was the dealer was trying to lock me into them using a lower price of their own making. I played no role when they added up all the additions over the base car. I used only their own numbers. They let me drive away and only later wanted more money.

    I want to focus like a red laser on Trump. Thus far, in the charges against two defendants, those charged the two men with money laundering. A charge does not mean the end result is guilty. This has nothing to do with Trump.

    Next we have had one man convicted of lying. But this also was not Trump. It was Flynn whom Trump fired.
    There is the other man who also lied. Same thing as used about Flynn.

    Democrats have a swing and miss against Trump.
     
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    You live in a fantasy if you think Hillary would have been the better pick for a constitutionalist voter.
     
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    Your story falls apart quickly because there is no evidence that Hillary stole any money from Hailti or from Halifax. We on e other hand would have bank security cameras that show you stealing the money that you accused Hillary of stealing.
     
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    Sure they do. But most folks don't believe their data.
     
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    The suggestion has been made that the October FISA before the November election was a political maneuver that used the Steele dossier as an excuse.

    But, Carter Page had been under investigation for long time before there was any Steele dossier - as the multiple FISA warrants indicate.

    Just in general, this idea that the FBI was trying to affect the election by using a FISA warrant in October is just too stupid for words. It's a radical conspiracy theory that couldn't even possibly work.
     
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    It was to gather info on Page. Who was not part of the tWump campaign at the time.

    Trump 2016 presidential campaign[edit]
    Page served as a foreign-policy advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 Presidential campaign.[23] In September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials investigated alleged contacts between Page and Russian officials subject to U.S. sanctions, including Igor Sechin.[4] After news reports began to appear describing Page's links to Russia and Putin's government, Page stepped down from his role in the Trump campaign.[1][24]

    Shortly after Page resigned from the Trump campaign, the Federal Bureau of Investigation obtained a warrant from the US Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to surveil Page's communications.[25] To issue the warrant, a federal judge concluded there was probable cause to believe that Page was a foreign agent knowingly engaging in clandestine intelligence for the Russian government. Page was the only American who was directly targeted with a FISA warrant in 2016 as part of the Russia probe. The 90-day warrant was repeatedly renewed.[26]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page
     
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    My comments were directed at the Nunes memo.

    The only connection I see to Mueller is that Trump would like Americans to see our FBI to be such crap that nothing they do can be trusted.

    And, thus he should be allowed to block the investigation of himself!

    And, that is just plain not acceptable.
     
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    An absolute absurd post. NO ONE wants the gov't to freely illegally spy on any American Citizen.
    Don't be so emotional.
     
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    If you don't think the FBI did anything wrong you surely must because what the FBI did was an undeniable clear violation of the forth amendment
     
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    I wish that were true. There seems to be a sizable portion that seem fine with illegal spying, so long as it is directed against those they have otherized.

    The Obama Administration wanted to spy on their political opponents. They knew that the Steele dossier was funded by the Democrats and was unverified, yet they used it anyway to justify the FISA warrant -- without telling the courts that Democrats and not intelligence created the document. They knew that Steele hated Trump and wanted to see him lose and yet didn't tell the court he was the source. Then, to get additional justification, they used news stories that journalists wrote where they just repeated information from Steele as if it were true. (Basically, the last eighteen months of reporting by the media on Russian collusion have been false but are presented as if they are factual stories even though they attempted no verification of the stories)

    A summary: the Obama Administration, bureaucrats at intelligence and Justice and the media all wanted Hillary to win at all costs. To do that they had to destroy Trump with whatever means they could, and elect Hillary no matter what she did. So massive corruption and lying occurred to try to ensure the results. Since they didn't get Hillary elected, they have set out to destroy or at least get rid of Trump no matter what they had to do. They cleared Hillary and her staff of multiple crimes and illegally spied on Trump people as they illegally spied on hundreds or even thousands of others.

    The most disgusting thing that we have seen the last eighteen months is how the complicit media just repeats what they are told without verification, quoting anonymous sources.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...exposes_besides_fisa_abuse.html#ixzz56BUgO3JA
     
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