Calling Jesus out on not letting gays into "heaven" & sending to "hell"

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    Getting in the news is easy: take a gun and mow down a bunch of people. Nah, don't want to do that.

    The Westboro folks just take the Bible more seriously than most Christians do - they are the more true Christians, just like the Jihadists are - they believe the book means what it says and says what it means. Too bad the more directly one takes the book the WORSE one becomes - obviously not "inspired" by god, like the Bible itself claims.
     
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    Why are you dodging my question about you and the news? Obviously you are vehemently against Christianity. What are your plans to stop it?
     
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    Yes, I've written a lot about the evils of Islam.
     
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    I knew you'd think of something.

    Only according to you. Others would say they are the least of Christianity.
     
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    & I'm not. Loving God, however does not exempt us from the temptaions and deceit in this world. Why is it the godless demands that all children of God be delivered from all evil and trials? We work through this world as everyone else does, only we have a reward at the end. Diversity makes us strong & we learn more and more how to overcome evil. We don't just "bathe" in it.
     
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    Unlike the Christian god, I don't automatically resort to violence. Education/reason are the best tools.
    Just like we can't bomb our way out of this longest of all US wars (like Obama tried and failed to do) - we have to defeat Islam IDEOLOGICALLY, to do that.

    God is violent and cruel beyond imagination: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
     
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    Then apparently, you never read the Parable of the Good Samaritan. This completely obliterates that idea.
     
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    God in the evil Bible kills innocent children - the first-born sons of Egypt - so it would appear that the Westboro nuts are likely closer to god than most Christians are.

    Jesus didn't condemn his dad for killing all those innocent children, so Jesus was a psycho. If MY dad killed many many innocent children guess what I'd do?
     
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    We? Your vehemence against all Christians is fascinating. It's why I think you'll end up in the news. So much energy!
     
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    Like the Qur'an, a good part does not negate a vile/evil part. It's like "hey, if I can find some GOOD stuff that Hitler did then I'll give ol' Adolf a COMPLETE PASS on all the bad stuff he did!" See how that works?
     
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    If you believe that, then you must believe the Bible is literally true. Fascinating!
     
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    We?....yes, some people seem to be writing more and more about the evils of Islam, such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali, etc.
     
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    I got into a recent and civil debate with one of my bandmates over how to overcome the evil of racism. She apparently thought a combative, in your face approach was the way to do it and I told her that method would likely repel people from the message you convey. I'm no stranger to injustice myself, but the right approach is to bring people to the Cross, where God is no respecter of persons. He will judge everyone accordingly and those who die in their sins without Christ will be eternally separated from Him. This may sound unfair, but believe me. God's justice is perfect as He is perfect and will not allow sin into His presence.
     
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    Christians do - they BELIEVE, LITERALLY, the legend of a magic 2000 year-old invisible zombie who will let them survive their own death if they just jettison science, reason, and critical thinking to "believe in him". Yes, they take it literally.
     
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    Speaking of racism, Jesus was racist/ethnicist: Jesus said that he had only come to help one particular ethnicity/race (Mt 15:24 – the Israelites). Don't be racist, don't believe in Jesus.
     
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    The God of creation is not vile. But He must punish sin. Your error is in thinking mankind is good. But that just isn't true. Mankind is inherently wicked and vile.
     
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    He approved of the BRUTAL TORTURE of a good man (Job), so of course he's not "perfect"....he's an evil psycho. You have a very warped idea of what "perfect" is!
     
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    John 3:16 says that anyone who believes in Him will have eternal life. Sorry, but I'd rather trust my soul to a loving God who never breaks His promises. Oh, and the Gospel is for the Jew first, then the Gentile.
     
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    That is the hard Truth, that when accepted it is liberating!
     
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    No, Job's faith was being tested and tempered. You expect a God to solve all of humanity's problems.
     
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    Very much so. And those who deny it are only fooling themselves.
     
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    If you're going to defend Saudi Arabia's record on women's rights, if you're going to defend the burka, I honestly don't think you have a leg to stand on. Not only are you not more ethical than Jesus, you're not even as ethical as the guy in the picture. And what would you have to say to lesbians in this homosexual-loving but freedom-to-women-denying world of yours? Yes, you can get married, but no, you can't drive, and you have to wear a bag over your head?
     
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    Of course he is - he water-boarded to death more than even the 11 million that HItler killed in his camps (in god's "flood")! Plus, that psycho also did the same to virtually all (innocent) animals in the same "flood". He designed faulty humans (he made us, according to the Bible), and to make up for his own mistake he slaughters virtually every one of them - god is a true lunatic if ever there was one.
     
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    "Truth" does not belong in the same sentence as "dragons", invisible "angels", talking snakes, talking donkeys, unicorns, a man living inside a fish for 3 days, a magic invisible hippie who will magically let people "survive their own deaths up in heaven".
     
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    Is that why he told his disciples to preach the word of God to all the world, because it was only for Israelites?
     

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