FBI chief has 'grave concerns,' clashes with Trump over GOP memo

But you have zero interest is knowing why your beloved BLOTUS, nunes and grassley are so intent upon denigrating and discrediting the FBI while it is conducting an investigation?

Your misguided partisan allegiances are exposed by failing to investigate the motivations of both sides.

 

So now you are moving the goalposts and fallaciously alleging that the FBI never even bothered to independently verify Steele's information in the dossier?

Of course you have nothing whatsoever to support that utterly bogus allegation.

But thanks for downgrading your own credibility by posting such utter drivel.

Here is what the media has independently verified without having the resources that the FBI has. The odds are the FBI has verified even more than just these three aspects.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

Since the claims made by Steele about Carter Page have been independently verified that establishes that the FBI could legitimately use the Steele Dossier to substantiate the FISA warrant.

This blows your entire attack against the FBI out of the water.

At this point the smart move is to admit to being wrong and just move on.

 

One should distinguish between "counterintelligence" and "criminal" investigations. The president should not get involved in the latter, but must be engaged in the former. Obama was involved in the criminal investigation of Hillary, this is wrong. He was also involved in the counterintelligence investigation of Trump, which was appropriate as long as there was credible evidence of concern. It is disturbing Obama was involved in the counterintelligence investigation of Trump knowing some of the 'intelligence' premising this was from Hillary.

 

I highly doubt they are as worried as the Clintonistas.

 

C'mon I'm sure Steele swore the Boy Scout oath and a double dog dare.

 

None of the Dems are fabricating canards about the FBI ergo they are not worried.

The desperation of nunes and grassley exposes that the worry is ALL on the right.

 

The FBI denigrated and discredited themselves when they used unverified, uncorroborated, unsourced Hillary purchased oppo dirt to spy on US citizens. The FBI denigrated and discredited themselves when they presented false information to the court, and then never corrected it, as they have a duty to do, once they learned it was false.

The FBI illegally spying on US citizens might be fine with you, but, I suspect you are some what of a minority viewpoint. We want this pulled out into the sunshine, fully examined and the corrupt officials charged tried and sentenced. This will not be tolerated.

 

Does Wray have the same concerns over the Democrat memo?

 

Question. Have such agencies ever protected themselves? Like the CIA spying on its own oversight committee? How about the CIA lying to congress? So of course they do, and this should be a factor when looking at the FBI. To ignore such things will send you into an alternate reality, and while it may serve partisanship, it never serves the interest of the truth.

 

Yeah, these crooks that have the boy scout act down, they used to fool us, now we spot these sonfabitches from a mile away.

 

Your opinion is meaningless.

 

That's a really good question, like "Internal Affairs"? I think OIG serves at least some parts of this role, but apparently, we need a great deal more here.

They don't seem to do much about this. Two recent examples: James Crapper, lied his ass off, and Snowden pantsed him. That is really how we learned about all this data collection on the American People that Crapper denied under oath, in sworn Congressional Testimony. Congress mumbled and grumbled but really did nothing. Part of that is that they would send up a criminal referral to DOJ and with Lynch at AG, it was a nonstarter. Grassley and Graham recently sent a criminal referral to Rosenstein for Steele, for lying to the FBI, let's see what he does with it. But short answer lately, Congress seems to do nothing when folks lie to them under oath.

 

Yes. The Dossier claims Page went to Russia, and he did! Not that this was ever a secret. But yes, this verifies that Trump had a bunch of Russian prostitutes pee on Obama's bed, so it's OK to spy on Americans!

You are so clever at this!

 

Which is an indictment of congress, but perhaps actually reveals the real nature of this so called, constitutional rule of law republic? Looks like a farce to me, and while treason is narrowly defined, it should be expanded to include this, which would of course hang most of DC. Once upon a time you could not lie to congress with no repercussions. They took it seriously. But if you have theater replace that, well, that does seem to be what congress is with these public hearings. Theater. Like Rome, the republic appears to be dead and only the forms remain.

 

Yes, they never should have confirmed Loretta Lynch, and in fact her confirmation was delayed longer than the previous 7 AG's combined, but there was always the race card, claiming the GOP was obstructing the first black woman as AG, and the GOP of that period rolled pretty fast under pressure like that. That may be a passing era. If Trump's taught the GOP anything its that they can fight and they can prevail. The GOP was completely cowed by the Fake News Media, is anyone anymore, after watching Trump take them on a win, repeatedly, as in he beats them like a rented mule?

It's just words on paper, we are the longest surviving democracy in the world because of our society wide commitment to Freedom, Liberty, the Rule of Law, and our inner grace where so many will willingly self-police to avoid infringing on the rights of others. We can appear very complacent on the surface, and we are, but when a tipping point is reached, we quickly and deeply unite into a fearsome force. Hitler, Japan, OBL, Saddam and others have misread that complacency as weakness and it did not go well for them.

That would take a constitutional amendment, and if the States convened a drafting committee for Constitutional amendments, which is their right, I wouldn't waste my time on it. I think we need to break up the beltway. It's the most powerful city in the world, and nicely concentrated for all the illegal wheeling and dealing. In the age of internet, that is no longer needed, I would disperse it all over the Country. Take a big unmanageable swamp and convert it into a thousand small manageable puddles. And that wouldn't require a constitutional amendment and it would greatly enhance the security and survivability of our Federal Government.

Second, I'd like to see the State Legislatures, acting in concert, able to pass legislation. Right now, only Congress can put laws on the President's desk, and when they won't, we have no real recourse. I would like to see a Constitutional Amendment that states if a majority of the State Legislatures pass an identical bill, that it goes to the President's desk for signature with veto over-ride on the vote of 2/3rds of the State Legislatures.

Two basic changes that I think would be a big improvement.

 

Regurgitating DEBUNKED alt right disinformation does not alter the FACTS or REALITY in any significant way.

 

Except that I was stating the FACTS!

Yes, that would be something you would have a problem coming to terms with given how they are now extinct on all of your alt right disinformation sources.

 

Your facetious FAILURE to refute a single fact is duly noted and your credibility downgraded accordingly.

 

Facts according to CNN is just so much fake news.

 

Asinine non sequitur.

I was just stating FACTS.

 

Again for clarity.........Facts according to CNN is just so much fake news.

 

GOODWIN: Peeling back the layers of Hillary Clinton's deceit...

They are fooling no one!

 

Seems like everyone is living in some alternate universe, I wonder how one figures out where the actual universe is?

 

So where are these imaginary "CNN fake news" reports of yours stipulating that "None of the Dems are fabricating canards about the FBI ergo they are not worried"?

 

The Russian bots and trolls are definitely fooling the alt right all day and every day!