A very simple and easy to understand explanation of why climate change is REAL.

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not what he does. And if you intend to teach, start teaching.
     
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    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    I thought maybe you knew the implications of what you were saying...

    Research yourself.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are taunts and insults and really flaming blow hard jobs.

    I do my level best not to taunt you or him and not stoop to insults.

    Scientists are measuring CO2 using a satellite. And it has major problems. I posted a link to the science of the problems it has.

    Why do you use Curry today yet fight against her informative corner I post from time to time? And you seem not to understand her site. She allows for many scientists works to be shown on her corner. She at times comments on their work. But she uses solid science who publish climate studies.

    Why is science still studying climate? Because they still do not know everything!!!!
     
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    For over the past 20 years, boobs calling for the disaster have tried to talk to me on this topic. Before I ever talked to any of them, I told them I had started studying global climate back in 1980. I explained why I had done so. Scientists then were not sweating carbon dioxide.

    I have no idea why you exclaimed you thought I knew the implication as if now you do not think I do. I do know.

    This enormous disaster promised to us by one Al Gore did not happen. And there is no sign it will happen.
     
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    My experience is just the opposite. I became fully convinced of anthropogenic climate change when I found that many scientists have been “sweating” CO2 since the 1950’s.



    It was around this time that we realized it was not being absorbed by the ocean to the extent we had previously thought. From that point onwards, you had a slow building of concern. That’s why President LBJ was warned about rising CO2 levels not much later. It goes back even further than that, but this seems like the beginning of CO2 concerns entering the mainstream.

    This is devastating to the arguments that kept me skeptical when I was younger. It undermines the conspiracy narrative, for one; Instead, it shows showing a gradual building of evidence over multiple generations- just what we would expect from legitimate following of the scientific method.

    It also shows how we have simply been lied to by the “skeptics” who have been saying exactly what you are saying now.
     
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    And what else will convince you?

    I have already refuted, completely and utterly this idiotic contention that CO2 is not measurable at least three times and yet you insist on reposting the same debunked rubbish time and again. When we call on it and describe it for what it is. Ignorant bull crap with no scientific foundation the responses are something Trump would tweet. Complaints about people being nasty.

    There is a very very simple solution to this

    Stop posting time wasting rubbish
     
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    Dr. Clark is your example? Frankly due to the still dominance of our newspapers at the time, I never heard of this man. So where is the flooded Miami he speaks of or the flooded interior of the USA up the Mississippi River?

    I would love to shake being a skeptic. If the valley is flooded and Miami is deep under water, that does the trick.
     
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    I did not see you debunk a thing. I did post a study by NASA on the inaccuracies of the CO2 collections and measurements. I am sick of you saying you refuted then not being able to prove you cited.
     
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    Al Gore is not now and never was a scientist

    If you want credibility in this debate then attack the findings of the IPCC
     
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    I have refuted it on multiple occasions in the past

    And satellites are not the only place that NASA gets its CO2 data
     
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    I am not out to attack. I have posted plenty of scientists reports and some are published.And Posted things from NASA calling into question the accuracy of Carbon Dioxide measurements. I bet you did not bother to read anything at all i posted from solid scientists.
     
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    Sounds like you are trying to taunt me.
     
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    the scientific report I posted on this topic goes into a lot more details.
     
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    I am not insulting you but the content of your posts

    There is a difference

    So, if your contention that CO2 measurements are inaccurate please back it up
     
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    And you glossed over my links...

    Your claims are irrelevant if you didn't already know.
     
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    After how you talk down to me, now why would I want to taunt you or insult you? What on earth have you done?
     
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    Good grief I have backed it up. Do you intend to repeat what you allege are your refutations?
     
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    It’s something people are more likely to click on. If you want a syllabus, this is what I started with.

    http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/climate-science-history

    If it’s flooding you want, that may not be apparent for decades. Something tells me that won’t convince people though. Even if Miami is under water, people will just say “flooding has always happened.”
     
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    I was speaking to her, not to you.
     
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    Here is the thing. Al Gore got this rolling by his extreme view of global changes due to rising oceans and far more than that.

    But thus far, nothing he says is true.

    Common sense causes you to ask a few questions.
    Example

    Death Valley a very natural hot spot on Earth, the hottest of record for the entire globe got its hottest in 1913.

    This is a fact.

    Why is current temperatures during the hottest days 20 degrees cooler?
     
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    Done a search of the last five pages and cannot find it
     
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    Is your brain a microcosm too?
     
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    The IPCC is a political body. I have gone after some of the science it reports, just like science is supposed to have take place.
     
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    Because local is not the same thing as global

    Australia has record number of heat waves
     
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    Discuss early extreme hot records set in your country and show us more recent heat records there.

    Maybe this will do some good.

    The comment Earth is hotter will never do. It is not a collective. It has a vast array of climates.
     

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