The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion?

Theist did not come up with "thou shalt not kill", they added it to their religion as it was a good idea already out there when they wrote their religion

 

well thats 1/2 the story, agnostics neither believe nor disbelieve in the existence. Its like sitting on the fence watching the believer theists and the believer atheist duke it out ove rtheir beliefs.

 

Wow, best understanding there was religion 'long' before statutes, you got a citation for us?

 

we're all born Atheist, religion is learned in the same way children learn about Santa

 

if you don't believe, your not a theist, thus do not believe in God, you may be open to the possibility, but as of right now you do not believe in a God... right?

you we're born Atheist, raised religious, but are now a Agnostic, not yet a true Theist as you lack belief in a God, thus still not a believer in a God.. correct?

I think Agnostic is the stage where a child wants to believe in Santa still, but just learned he was not real, so now he is confused about what to believe, should he believe what he liked believing in or the truth based on what he now knows, it's a hard choice for some, I get it

 

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neo- +‎ atheist


Noun
neoatheist (plural neoatheists)

1. A member of the vocally anti-religious movement that came to prominence in the early 2000s. quotations ▼

No evidence is not proof of nonexistence, acceptance without proof is irrational, atheists accept without proof, therefore atheists are irrational

AGAIN for the hearing challenged: No evidence is not proof of nonexistence, acceptance without proof is irrational, atheists accept without proof, therefore atheists are irrational

Sorry I'm agnostic, you know the group that the neo-atheists are trying to hijack and pretend dont exist.

Wrong again not a theist, agnostic.

Agnostics do not accept either the existence OR nonexistence because neither side is dealing with a full deck.

please look it up and try to comprehend the distinction.

Wrong again not a theist, agnostic.

Agnostics do not accept either the existence OR nonexistence because neither side is dealing with a full deck.

please look it up and try to comprehend the distinction.

Nope I recognize that despite no God is involved I have and exercise religion. I dont have a hatred for religion or theists or atheists, but the funniest geoups is by far the neo atheists.

Well you first need to learn how to apply it and you would discover it came back to bite the neo-atheists, in fact its biting them so badly they are speechless and cant defend any of it, but then thats what happens when they try to claim irrational is rational. Now you take me, an agnostic I dont buy either, why because there is no evidence for either, the only reasonable logical and rational one in this discussion!

 

no you arent thats propaganda bullshit. You are born without knowledge or the capability to comprehend God for that matter. Lets see, yep born without knowledge of...or understanding of...or decision made about God, sounds pretty agnostic to me! Neither believes nor disbelieves! .

 

if you don't believe in a God, your an Atheist... Period

Atheist do not disbelieve, they lack belief in a God

now if you think there might be a God, then your Agnostic, but still also a Atheist as you still do not believe in a God

now Atheists can disbelieve in a God, but so can Theists, in fact they disbelieve in almost all the same ones

do you disbelieve in the Sun God, how about the Flying Spaghetti Monster? the "God of Money"? I am guessing many God's you disbelieve in, am I right?

 

except of course for agnostics who abstain from taking a position. if you claim agnostics take either position without acknowledging the other you are misrepresenting the agnostic and falsely claiming they are atheists they are not, that is top shelf foolishness and that among other things is unhinging the neoatheist movement.

if they do not disbelieve then they are not atheists because atheist is the negation of theist, you should know that.
In order to be an atheist you need to take a religious position, the position there is no God. Your reason for taking that position is irrelevant

I am an agnostic, what neither believe or disbelieve means is that I abstain from a voting either way. Which is why its impossible to be an agnostic+anything else. another laughable fad out there.

 

if you don't believe in a God, your an Atheist, do you believe in a God?

I added this after you replied to other post

now Atheists can disbelieve in a God, but so can Theists, in fact they disbelieve in almost all the same ones as Athiests

do you disbelieve in the Sun God, how about the Flying Spaghetti Monster? the "God of Money"? I am guessing many God's you disbelieve in, am I right?

but there is zero God's you believe in.. right?

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/

"Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods.
To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods."

 

A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.[1]

A false dilemma can arise intentionally, when a fallacy is used in an attempt to force a choice or outcome. The opposite of this fallacy is false compromise.

the forced choice works for atheist and theist, the position and negation of position, but not for agnostic who abstains from taking a position due to lack of factual evidence either way, sort of like a hung jury and therefore the court must acquit, sorry.

 

I have never seen any monsters or sun gods but neither do I have evidence they do not exist. lot of people worship mpney as their God.

 

you have never seen the Sun? most have, but do not think it's a God, your unsure, ok, guess have to take you at your word

 

if you believe in so much as one God you are a theist, if you believe no Gods exist you are an atheist.
Going by the logic you laid out everyne on the planet would be agnostic-atheist-theists, cant do a much better job of destroying the language than that.

Hey I love that website, they are so ****ed up, in the atheism is a religion thread I recently posted direct contradictions they make on that website for a good laugh.

 

Sure I have seen it but I dont have any evidence to prove the point either way so I abstain.

Would you like to describe God for me?

 

Full blown theist ALLERGIC reaction to FACTS duly noted for the record!

 

The meaning and origin of the expression: Thou shalt not kill

What's the meaning of the phrase 'Thou shalt not kill'?
Literal meaning

What's the origin of the phrase 'Thou shalt not kill'?
There are many instances of this phrase in the Bible (King James Version).

Exodus 20:13: Thou shalt not kill.

Deuteronomy 5:17: Thou shalt not kill.

Matthew 5:21: Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment.

Romans 13:9: For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/379800.html

 

Oh? Did I miss a post where you proved that no Gods exist? Oh wait you didnt prove a thing, LACKing factsas usual

 

That's a philosophical opinion, and not necessarily the correct one.

Do you care to put forward an argument why nothing is better than something?
Or why you believe "nothing" inherently preempts existence, and not the other way around?

 

well I have had enough for one day, will get back to this, nice to see something that at first blush appears to come from above the cheap seats.

 

Yes and that position is just as ignorant as believing in god. Pretending that cretures invented by man somehow actually exist or that there is any doubt about their non existance is equally silly. That is why nobody can defeat or ague the inappropriatness of the analogy of unicorns, Easter Bunny, etc. etc., and they have to resort to trying to ridicule the analogy When a creature is clearly an invention of man it is just downright ignorant to pretend that proving existance or non existance are equivalent.

 

Not necessary to prove a fiction invented by man does not exist. The fact that such creatures are invented is all the proof required. For your arguement to have credibility you have to accept that every god man has created exists as well as every fictional creature exists. Just think of all the science fiction creatures ever written into stories. Guess they all exist as well unless of course we can prove they don't.

 

either you believe in a God or you don't, it's really that simple

 

yes, the bible was built on top of the old religions of the time, the new is often built on top of the old

 

Not really. First you have to decide among the thousands of " gods" . So many choices.